Philisophical question on vintage appliance love/lust

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Bob, as I stated in my previous post, I also collect other things like lawn mowers and vintage HiFi as well as vintage cars I know some members here do it too... I still think many guys, gay or straight are interested in washing machines and dishwashers but because of the stereotypical association of these appliances with females, I think some straight guys aren't as comfortable with that than most gays are, since gays already have to get over some similar "embarrassing" situations as they don't have a conventional life. Otherwise, gays wouldn't have to do such things as "coming out"...

I think it's just like girls who like to play hockey or football, guys who like figure skating or ballet... They all have to overcome something as being non-conventional to do what they like.
 
When's the last time

. . . anybody saw an appliance repairwoman?   This is an interest of men almost exclusively.  Sexual preference is not a factor among professionals, or certainly hasn't been in my experience.  There is only one repair visit over a period of many years where I can recall my gaydar kicking in, and that happened within the last year.  Other than that, they have all been straight.


 

 
 
Implications of "women's work"

Just to clarify, I wasn't implying sexual orientation of anyone by mentioning "women's work"... In the original post opening this thread, I noted the dichotomy of an appliance, geared, styled and featured to appeal to women, but almost always designed and purchased by men. I think there is little wonder why so many of our beloved washers seem heavily influenced by automotive designs at the time. Some even have fins!... (agitator humour). Of course, GM, AMC, Ford, and Crosley (& probably others) also all had their appliance division and I wouldn't be surprised if some designers did double duty.

I would offer up that part of the appeal is that because many of us, as our earliest/fondest childhood memories, remember watching our stay-at-home mothers, inarguably the primary caretaker of past, doing the household chores. Combine that with a boy's inevitable love of "Gizmos"... and the resulting appeal of Washers, dryers (not as cool, because as Gansky1 so obviously stated they don't have water, suds, etc and we love playing in the water), vacuums, toasters, blenders, mix-masters and egg beaters (and the promise of cakebatter or icing to lick from the bowl and beaters)... Gizmos, a mother's affection, and cake-batter. What could possibly be better?

Later, as we aged, traditional gender roles asserted themselves through relational expectations, and we became "Dad's little grease-monkey"...Helping pass the tools as Dad worked on the car, or washer, or bike, etc.

I would also add, from personal experience, that I have a tendency to humanize appliances: Think of them as entities with some sort of soul, gender, possibly a name and a personality... How many times have I encouraged a recalcitrant (1972 Citroen Dspecial) to start with "C'mon boy, you can do it", or mentioned to the repair man or woman, that "The old girl seems to be talking back" when discussing a noise the washer suddenly started to make. BECAUSE OF THIS, like a surgeon trying to save a patient, I have a very hard time watching an appliance be junked/scrapped, expecially if it has "personality", as so many of the older appliances do, because of their gizmos, styling, eccentricities, rarity, etc.

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

(and Bwoods, I used to help raise and train American Saddlebred and Morgan park show horses, and I still have my mare. The horse in the picture you mentioned is my late gelding, who died at age 30, having spent the last 20 years of his life under my care. He's buried on the farm here.)

The following picture is from the Hartford Auto Museum (Hartford, WI) and as many of you will recognize: That's a Tucker Torpedo, Vin #48, and the only known existant example with a factory (Borg-Warner) 3-speed automatic. Enjoy.

Cheers,
Bob

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everybody

keeps bringing up women's work. It really wasn't women's' work, the former generations were brought up in classrooms designed to produce team players. There was "X" amount of labor to be done in having a home, and so in team spirit the labor was divided among the team players. Women got the lion share of running the suburban home, Men got the burden of wining the laurels to keep the home afloat.
I know from direct experience there were members of each team that were unhappy with their division.
So I think we need to take the sexuality aspect OUT of the equation.
Here is what I think, washing machines although assigned to women's work were -designed, engineered, created by mostly men. So other men would see this ,some men got fixated on drills, wood cutting machines, that was acceptable. Some men got hooked on washing machines as machines created by men and I also think some men saw admiration for the other half- their mother's labors not their father's labors.

I think its a simple as that.
 
Differentiation of sexuality, and traditional gender roles.

But as the team player part of the American family goes, (although I do completely agree that many families, my own included, did not like the pre-ordained division of labour) there was a gender separation of household duties: I can think of countless advertisements of the wifey looking on in amusement (or horror) as the helpless, hapless husband attempts cooking, ironing, washing those new green socks with a load a whites, etc... The man was the breadwinner, mowed the lawn, took care of the exterior, and she did the interior...

I could posit that you find perhaps a greater percentage of gay men interested in these appliances because we (speaking for myself, at least) feel less bound to traditional gender roles. That being said, it certainly DOES NOT cast assumptions of orientation on all men who have an interest in appliances like these.

Then again, I could simply be pissing into the wind on this one...
 
Abcomatic: If you drew an equilateral triangle in WI with Milwaukee as the bottom right point, Madison as the bottom left, and Fond du Lac as the top... Hartford would be just less than half way up the right side... a bit closer to Milwaukee. I'd say maybe an hour-ish from Milwaukee? Here's the link. VERY worth visiting, in my opinion.... http://wisconsinautomuseum.com/
 
A slightly little different take

My earliest memories are of washing machines, quite apart from mother/father bonding issues, and I have never really understood why. Then, the other day I had an epiphany.

 

Our Frigidaire WO 65 sat in an alcove off the far end of the kitchen. My mother would be busy elsewhere, while I sat in front of the machine, too tiny to see inside. She said I would gesture "up-up" and she'd lift me to see. I remember the intense fragrant steam and really hot water. Geraldine recalls that I spent a lot of time there. We had a user-controlled hot water tank at the time, and she would heat it high and long for my brother's diapers. He was 2; I was 1. We rented then, and my dad was a plumber. At one point he modified the plumbing which required new hoses, and the old ones were placed in a long store room where I played with them often. The hose for hot was an orangey-red. These are very early memories and there are dozens more, but let that suffice for now.

 

Tuesday afternoon, I was washing in the WO-65 and I bent down to pick up a leaf from the garage floor. In that moment, the Frig went into spin as my head and ear were passing the cabinet. There is no outer tub in these models and roar of water is spectacular. You all know that as infants and toddlers, we are the ultimate sensate beings. Everything is sight and sound and touch. That's when the epiphany came. It was the sensate and tactile aspects of the washer that imprinted on me, and now I'm hooked forever. Although I have learned to appreciate dryers and dishwashers since joining the AW family, I have no deep particular interest in other appliances or cars or tools--just washers. I wonder if anybody else is like me.
 
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