Pics of Alliance Laundry factory today
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frontloaderfan
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How cool would it be to go to the SQ factory and buy a W/D set fresh off the assembly line....
murando531
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The keynote on the projector screen is relieving. SQ is being smart about how they appeal to customers. Yes they're implementing spray rinses, but only on the -Normal Eco- cycles. Basically, because the energy regulations state that the "normal" cycle has to comply with restrictions, they're giving them a compliant normal, but making a variant that lets the consumer know what their chosen cycle does. I assume that there is a normal "normal" that operates with full wash and full rinse as always. I can feel confident for at least a little while longer I'll have a machine that I can buy new should my WP decide to fail for whatever reason.
SQ = Genious
They are probably the first to recognize the possiblity to bypass the water saveing laws. EU producers started that system of label and "normal" cycle a few years back and now, it is standard to have a normal 140°F and an Eco 140°F (dumbed down to anywhere from 120-90°F) cycle.
Further, nice to see they'll launch a impeller washer with higher spin in 2018.
They are probably the first to recognize the possiblity to bypass the water saveing laws. EU producers started that system of label and "normal" cycle a few years back and now, it is standard to have a normal 140°F and an Eco 140°F (dumbed down to anywhere from 120-90°F) cycle.
Further, nice to see they'll launch a impeller washer with higher spin in 2018.
I like the sleek look of the control panel on the forthcoming 2015 machine. It's fun to get a glimpse into the manufacturing facilities. Thanks for the link, Ben.
mrb627
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Touchpad Set?
That looks awesome! Can't wait to see one in person.
Malcolm
That looks awesome! Can't wait to see one in person.
Malcolm
mrb627
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Adjust?
What kind of adjustment are you inquiring about?
Malcolm
What kind of adjustment are you inquiring about?
Malcolm
Do you suppose they do the factory's laundry in the Whirlpool?
Great pictures up today, factory tours are always so interesting.
Great pictures up today, factory tours are always so interesting.
And it's gansky1 For The Win! Do you suppose they're doing some sort of energy/water or cycle comparisons between the SQ and the Whirlpool?
Mike-- Adjusting water level to fill to top of tub: I was wondering if the switchover to electronic controls would affect that, as well. Someone needs to open the console to see if the "dome" is still adjustable.
Ben! Hop on their Facebook page and ask if the maximum water level will still be adjustable. It's no secret to them that many consumers--and for that matter their dealers--do this.
Mike-- Adjusting water level to fill to top of tub: I was wondering if the switchover to electronic controls would affect that, as well. Someone needs to open the console to see if the "dome" is still adjustable.
Ben! Hop on their Facebook page and ask if the maximum water level will still be adjustable. It's no secret to them that many consumers--and for that matter their dealers--do this.
dnastrau
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Adjust water level
Hopefully the water level switch will still allow a level adjustment like the one in our Maytag Epic (Duet clone) in spite of the electronic controls.
Hopefully the water level switch will still allow a level adjustment like the one in our Maytag Epic (Duet clone) in spite of the electronic controls.
nmassman44
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Love the look of the 2015 models and the electronics. The panels are sleek looking.I wonder if they will have an electronic sensor system on the dryers to make them HE dryers....The doors on the front loaders look a tad more robust. Did everyone see that in 2018 one can kiss the Flex Vane agitator goodbye and say hello to the "tall post impeller" and a higher spin speed along with no more transmission....so no more coveted 210 arc. At least thats the way I saw it. And an electric drain pump as well.
Great Changes Are Coming To SQs TL Washers
I dough that you will be able to adjust the WL on the new washers, We have sold over 300 SQ TL washers and have only turned up the WL on around 10 or less, I Do Not get requests for this and most users under-load anyway.
It will be great to have an electric drain pump and finely have a neutral drain, this will save electricity and a lot of drive belts.
My only fear with the new line is the retail price, if it gets much higher they will lose a lot of sales.
I dough that you will be able to adjust the WL on the new washers, We have sold over 300 SQ TL washers and have only turned up the WL on around 10 or less, I Do Not get requests for this and most users under-load anyway.
It will be great to have an electric drain pump and finely have a neutral drain, this will save electricity and a lot of drive belts.
My only fear with the new line is the retail price, if it gets much higher they will lose a lot of sales.
I just posted on their page
Since they sent me some merchandise along with a personal note from Reid Meissner a while back along with the emblem, perhaps they will disclose some information to me.
One has hopes................
Since they sent me some merchandise along with a personal note from Reid Meissner a while back along with the emblem, perhaps they will disclose some information to me.
One has hopes................
Yes I have mentioned to most customers and NONE have seen it
as a problem. The only ones we turned up are the pair we installed at our local veterinary clinic because of the really dirty stuff they wash and because they are chronic over-loaders, and a few others that asked for it. The current SQ without a dual-Action agitator does not benefit much from increasing the water level, the turn over is not great with really big loads.
as a problem. The only ones we turned up are the pair we installed at our local veterinary clinic because of the really dirty stuff they wash and because they are chronic over-loaders, and a few others that asked for it. The current SQ without a dual-Action agitator does not benefit much from increasing the water level, the turn over is not great with really big loads.
murando531
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Hey that's my Whirlpool in the background!! I hope they're not planning on the spray rinse being anything like that washer though. Anything pressed against the basket higher than a couple inches up the wall doesn't even get water. Hopefully they're seeing that and designing a nice wide flume that will cover the entire area of the basket. Still, full fill rinses for me, always and forever with any washer. Even if I have to hook up a water hose and do it myself mid agitation.
Since owning a SQ top-loader is my way of having a vintage-style washer, I'm glad I purchased one recently. Once the spin-drain, adjustable maximum water level, and especially the traditional agitator are gone, the SQ top-loader will lose some of the qualities of a truly vintage machine.
For all intents and purposes, the current SQ top-loader isn't much different than a machine produced in, say, 1960---except for the dumbed-down warm water temperature, of course.
The spin-drain is one of my favorite 'vintage' attributes of a Speed Queen. I grew up with a neutral-draining Kenmore, and was envious of the more-exciting-to-watch spin-drains of Maytag, GE, Frigidaire, Westinghouse, Kelvinator, and SQ lines.
For all intents and purposes, the current SQ top-loader isn't much different than a machine produced in, say, 1960---except for the dumbed-down warm water temperature, of course.
The spin-drain is one of my favorite 'vintage' attributes of a Speed Queen. I grew up with a neutral-draining Kenmore, and was envious of the more-exciting-to-watch spin-drains of Maytag, GE, Frigidaire, Westinghouse, Kelvinator, and SQ lines.
mrb627
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FL dispenser
In examining the pics a little more closely, it appears the FL dispensing system might have gone through a redesign. That would be a good thing as the current dispenser isn't built for liquid detergents at all.
Malcolm
In examining the pics a little more closely, it appears the FL dispensing system might have gone through a redesign. That would be a good thing as the current dispenser isn't built for liquid detergents at all.
Malcolm
The Melrose Hardware store that posted the factory tour pics have quite a few other fun pics on their site too, looks like they've been around a long time.
http://https//www.facebook.com/page...4848754841?sk=photos_stream&ref=page_internal
http://https//www.facebook.com/page...4848754841?sk=photos_stream&ref=page_internal
@mike
I think the 2018 high end model is going to have the tall post impeller and the base model will still have the agitator...either way the next screen shows that both 2015 and 2018 models both use a full tub of wash water and it is only in the ECO NORMAL cycle that rinse water usage per gallon is seriously reduced, however all other cycles use a full tub of rinse water.
MIKE
I think the 2018 high end model is going to have the tall post impeller and the base model will still have the agitator...either way the next screen shows that both 2015 and 2018 models both use a full tub of wash water and it is only in the ECO NORMAL cycle that rinse water usage per gallon is seriously reduced, however all other cycles use a full tub of rinse water.
MIKE
washerdude
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What i want to see them do is try to bring these units to more of canada. But you can clearly see how these are way better built then whirlpool.
Speed Queen's answer on their FB
"Yes, there will be some changes coming in 2015 due to government regulations and restrictions. This will affect both the topload washer and the frontload washer. No changes will take place for the remainder of this year."
"Yes, there will be some changes coming in 2015 due to government regulations and restrictions. This will affect both the topload washer and the frontload washer. No changes will take place for the remainder of this year."
mrb627
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Informative...
yet vague. So we'll have to wait and see.
Malcolm
yet vague. So we'll have to wait and see.
Malcolm
most users under-load anyway.
My complaint about typical ignorant laundry machine users. My mom was very typical of this. Wasted so much water. So contradictory to her edict of wash full loads only. I could have done it her way. Underload and keep full water level thinking she had it full enough. It all came to a head in the early 1990s when we visited my sister and bil in suburban San Francisco. They had a large capacity basic Maytag. Did the typical thing of start the washer to filling, always at highest water level. Then put some stuff in it and not even concerned if/or how much underloaded it was. And California was going through quite a severe drought. My sister and bil were conserving water as much as possible. My sister and my dad told her if laundry was to be done, to let me do it since I knew how to load and use the proper water level. Hence automatic water sensing/selecting is a good idea because so many who underload.
My complaint about typical ignorant laundry machine users. My mom was very typical of this. Wasted so much water. So contradictory to her edict of wash full loads only. I could have done it her way. Underload and keep full water level thinking she had it full enough. It all came to a head in the early 1990s when we visited my sister and bil in suburban San Francisco. They had a large capacity basic Maytag. Did the typical thing of start the washer to filling, always at highest water level. Then put some stuff in it and not even concerned if/or how much underloaded it was. And California was going through quite a severe drought. My sister and bil were conserving water as much as possible. My sister and my dad told her if laundry was to be done, to let me do it since I knew how to load and use the proper water level. Hence automatic water sensing/selecting is a good idea because so many who underload.
Sounds like code for "buy one now."
mrb627
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Check Out...
The front controlled front-loader in this pic with the slanted panel...
Malcolm
The front controlled front-loader in this pic with the slanted panel...
Malcolm
Though the FL dosen't look to good in my opinion, it is now pretty clear: These washers weren't just prototypes. You can see a whole row of these in the background too...
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