So wait, these were built for 230 volt 50 hz operation? I ask because the motor looks so different in the picture, almost like a pancake. Could it have something to do with tub height? Im confused.
Picture of a European KitchenAid dishwasher
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Thats one huge
Woonkamer!!
And its only a 2 slaapkamer?? wow. Nice house
Woonkamer!!
And its only a 2 slaapkamer?? wow. Nice house
Water heater - 3000 watts, drying heater 1100 watts. Ah, the good ol' days...
I have seen a KitchenAid on eBay Germany some time ago. Will see if I can find the pic.
I have seen a KitchenAid on eBay Germany some time ago. Will see if I can find the pic.
Machines outside of the U.S. surely must have heated the water then. The Australian member with the KA machine (Member Ian_p61 states the water heater was around 2kW mark.
I wonder if there was a heating delay, how many sheath's were in use during the Main-Wash period and how effective Sani would have been on this machine (It would've been a QUICK run from around 140° - 180°, considering how hot European's keep their water heaters).
I wonder if there was a heating delay, how many sheath's were in use during the Main-Wash period and how effective Sani would have been on this machine (It would've been a QUICK run from around 140° - 180°, considering how hot European's keep their water heaters).
Found it. The seller said it was from 1978, model KDE 17E-WH.
Another one.
Last one.
passatdoc
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I"ve seen vintage photos of 1950s Stockholm and was stunned to see Fords being driven all over the place (US model Fords, not Euro-Ford models and not Opels). In particular, many of the taxis were big, black Fords. Especially in Sweden, I would have expected to have seen Volvos and Saabs predominate. Even more impressive was that Sweden still drove on the left (until 1967) but the Fords were all left hand drive models.
My friend's parents drove a Ford Country Squire station wagon, which was a rarity in Sweden, but they were upper middle class and few could afford such a car----or the gasoline costs.
I"ve seen vintage photos of 1950s Stockholm and was stunned to see Fords being driven all over the place (US model Fords, not Euro-Ford models and not Opels). In particular, many of the taxis were big, black Fords. Especially in Sweden, I would have expected to have seen Volvos and Saabs predominate. Even more impressive was that Sweden still drove on the left (until 1967) but the Fords were all left hand drive models.
My friend's parents drove a Ford Country Squire station wagon, which was a rarity in Sweden, but they were upper middle class and few could afford such a car----or the gasoline costs.
It looks like KitchenAid is on the market again in Europe:
http://www.kitchenaid.nl/catalogus/afwasautomaten/aanbiedingen-nl.htm?or=7255835526&page=1
http://www.kitchenaid.nl/catalogus/afwasautomaten/aanbiedingen-nl.htm?or=7255835526&page=1
I like everything about that kitchen except those knobs and the filigree backs on those chairs.. out with them LOL
It looks like KitchenAid is on the market again in Europe:
And have been in the UK for some time:
www.kitchenaid.co.uk/
And have been in the UK for some time:
www.kitchenaid.co.uk/
dj-gabriele
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Same in Italy, they're on the market since the arrival of Whirlpool but being Whirlpool the quality is sadly, crap.
http://www.kitchenaid.it/
http://www.kitchenaid.it/
kenmoreguy89
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Being EUROPEAN whirlpool quality is sadly crap..... 
Owned one,seen many, mine broken immediately and did not even bother to call assistance, just trashed it as fast as I could...it didn't wash anything and paid it good money,MOL model.
Classic american models of whirlpool beat the avrage european dishwasher for sure... unfortunately looks like in USA modern stuff is starting to look like euro junky stuff now, and using a silly spit of water the same way... which is very sad......
I am sick and tired to have dirty dishes, I changed about 6 dishwashers in the last 5 years and NONE of them is what I would call a dishwasher...silly me hoping it's gonna happen with a new european one anyway...
Our 80s rex lasted 20 years, it was not great but had not to rewash the 80% of the load like in others newer I've owned..
I do not even run my BOSCH anymore, just a waste of electricity...I just keep it not to leave an empty hole in my kitchen , waiting to find a decent VTG one that really use and have jets of water...ie. wash as a dishwasher should...
Would so like to find one of those VTG Zoppas Stovella which were the equivalent of KA's dishwasher in Italy... no luck...keep searching every week..no results, even a VTG Indesit or Ignis or Castor Rex would be fine.. finger crossed...
Owned one,seen many, mine broken immediately and did not even bother to call assistance, just trashed it as fast as I could...it didn't wash anything and paid it good money,MOL model.Classic american models of whirlpool beat the avrage european dishwasher for sure... unfortunately looks like in USA modern stuff is starting to look like euro junky stuff now, and using a silly spit of water the same way... which is very sad......
I am sick and tired to have dirty dishes, I changed about 6 dishwashers in the last 5 years and NONE of them is what I would call a dishwasher...silly me hoping it's gonna happen with a new european one anyway...
Our 80s rex lasted 20 years, it was not great but had not to rewash the 80% of the load like in others newer I've owned..
I do not even run my BOSCH anymore, just a waste of electricity...I just keep it not to leave an empty hole in my kitchen , waiting to find a decent VTG one that really use and have jets of water...ie. wash as a dishwasher should...
Would so like to find one of those VTG Zoppas Stovella which were the equivalent of KA's dishwasher in Italy... no luck...keep searching every week..no results, even a VTG Indesit or Ignis or Castor Rex would be fine.. finger crossed...
kenmoreguy89
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Is that KA still on sale?
I would not mind at all to pay shipping from Germany for it...
Is that KA still on sale?
I would not mind at all to pay shipping from Germany for it...
I saved those pictures... from an eBay add back in 2012.
kenmoreguy89
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Oh... it would have been too much luck to be so, thank you for replying.
I am so in need of a real dishwasher....
I am so in need of a real dishwasher....
How about a vintage Miele?
kenmoreguy89
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Yes also Miele, my friend in Turin has one, early 80s model, from what I could see it gives results on par with my previous Rex, which is fine...
What I like in Mieles is the steam vent on the top front like most US dishwashers use to have, which IMO is the most effective way for drying...in all the others newer I had I always had to dry with the towel to do not get strips and marks, rinse aid does not avoid it to happen in full, unfortunately older Miele are difficult to find over here, is already hard to find Rex or Castor ones (same maker), they also had the steam vent like Miele...
What I like in Mieles is the steam vent on the top front like most US dishwashers use to have, which IMO is the most effective way for drying...in all the others newer I had I always had to dry with the towel to do not get strips and marks, rinse aid does not avoid it to happen in full, unfortunately older Miele are difficult to find over here, is already hard to find Rex or Castor ones (same maker), they also had the steam vent like Miele...
Worktop Height
That is interesting about the higher worktops in Holland. When I moved to Hungary I was struck by how low the worktops were in my kitchen. I thought it was a low priority to renew the units but then I was forced to do it as an emergency job, as the old ones fell to pieces! I made the mistake of ordering the new flat-pack cabinets online without seeing them. They proved to be a big disappointment. I had assumed they would be typical kitchen units that require a worktop but they actually came with their own worktops which form an integral part of the structure. This means I now have hardly any worktop space. It also meant I had to get the old fashioned type of sink rather than the sort that goes into a hole cut out of the worktop. There is very little choice in that type of sink these days. The new units are a bit taller than the old ones but still not high enough to fit the washing machine under a worktop (assuming it were possible to get additional worktops). Actually, they don't supply any extras. It came as a package deal but I later wanted to get an extra 600mm wall unit to go above the washing machine. I was told they only sell the complete package, not individual units!
That is interesting about the higher worktops in Holland. When I moved to Hungary I was struck by how low the worktops were in my kitchen. I thought it was a low priority to renew the units but then I was forced to do it as an emergency job, as the old ones fell to pieces! I made the mistake of ordering the new flat-pack cabinets online without seeing them. They proved to be a big disappointment. I had assumed they would be typical kitchen units that require a worktop but they actually came with their own worktops which form an integral part of the structure. This means I now have hardly any worktop space. It also meant I had to get the old fashioned type of sink rather than the sort that goes into a hole cut out of the worktop. There is very little choice in that type of sink these days. The new units are a bit taller than the old ones but still not high enough to fit the washing machine under a worktop (assuming it were possible to get additional worktops). Actually, they don't supply any extras. It came as a package deal but I later wanted to get an extra 600mm wall unit to go above the washing machine. I was told they only sell the complete package, not individual units!
kenmoreguy89
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Did someone light a candle for me???
If so thank you, it worked, sorry to push this little off topic so far.....but whoever prayed for me I thank you and need you to continue....LOL
Surfing the web found an AD for a VTG Indesit today.....had no pic but asked seller to send me, hope the beauty is still available....the ad is for a Vintage indesit superauromatic... Seller states good condition and llittle use (used for dish storage)....doubtful about but pics will speak...
A dream machine for me... finally a true dishwasher and also awesome looking. YAY! I really hope it to still be available..... Here is how the model look like..
If so thank you, it worked, sorry to push this little off topic so far.....but whoever prayed for me I thank you and need you to continue....LOL
Surfing the web found an AD for a VTG Indesit today.....had no pic but asked seller to send me, hope the beauty is still available....the ad is for a Vintage indesit superauromatic... Seller states good condition and llittle use (used for dish storage)....doubtful about but pics will speak...
A dream machine for me... finally a true dishwasher and also awesome looking. YAY! I really hope it to still be available..... Here is how the model look like..
