Pitsos-GE washing machine

[neocho50]

This washer was sold here in Greece as "General Electric" and as "PITSOS" which is the greek version of "constructa" brand.Its one of my favorite but i cant find information about it.I dont know the real manufacturer.I found that in Spain was sold as "SIAM" and in French as "OTSEIN".Do you know anything about it?

 

[vacerator]

Interesting,

I've never seen a washer quite like that.

 

[turnamat]

...seems it is made by Otsein or Thomson-Brandt!I´ve seen alot of similar washers in Spain

 

[foraloysius]

Yes, here is another picture of a similar machine, this one is an Otsein.

Are you sure about Constructa? That would make it a BSH (Bosch und Siemens Haushaltsgeräte) product, but it doesn't look like that at all.

 

[neocho50]

@foraloysius Well its the french model!But i noticed that: the programmer here was ABCD.. type not 1234...so that makes me think that its a BSH made model or gorenje.Here in Greece BSH they sold washers as "Pitsos" made by Gorenje(2-3 times).Im sure about PITSOS and Constructa!You can goole it!

@turnamat well Thomson-Brandt?I dont think so because Brandt washers perfome spin after main wash and all rinses.The washer i posted was performing 4 rinses and only after the second rinse was spining.And the final spin was the same with my 15 years old Bosch!

@vacerator its very interesting!And beautiful!

 

[foraloysius]

I don't recognize anything at all in the picture that would make this a BSH (Constructa) machine. Is it possible that this one was built by Balay? Balay also made some cheaper Bosch/Siemens/Constructa machines. But probably not at the same time. From what year is this Pitsos machine, do you know?

 

[Ultramatic]

 

 

I like it! For a split second I thought I read "WIMP 800" on the upper left side.

 

[reversomatic]

Could it be?

A Philips , the controls look very familiar. Regards Nigel.

Philips Series 90 and the European Ignis

Hey everyone, was just looking at you tube, ever hopeful i'll find a vid of the philips series 90 (which i never will, same as i always surf ebay in the hope i'll actually be able to buy one! sigh) anyways I found this video: see link this machine looks a lot like the white 'elite' version of...

www.automaticwasher.org

 

[panthera]

Those controls are very similar to those I have seen

On lower end B/S/H products from the late '80s, early '90s.

Constructa, Siemens, Bosch, Neff, Gorenje, even their top of the line 'custom' stuff shares major parts, just as a Roper washer is basically the same as the far more expensive Maytag.

I'm not saying this IS a B/S/H product, just that the controls are quite similar to some models of the past.

 

Electronics were already worked out and lasting for decades by the end of the 1970's on major European brands. Philips had some bullet-proof systems in the mid-70's - with heat sinks and highest quality components to match. It was no problem to copy them, I rebuilt a fried board on a friend's washer in 1983 with stock parts straight from Conrad in Munich. Be no problem for a 'C' class manufacturer to copy and market, especially in Greece, Spain, Portugal and the other not-so-strict parts of the EC.

 

[foraloysius]

I don't see any similarity with BSH toploaders. Panthera, are you talking perhaps about this series. The controls have more or less the same style but are definitely different.

 

[foraloysius]

Nigel,

I had a close look at both controls. They look similar, but if you have a good look they are certainly not identical twins. Further Philips toploaders from that era were 40 cm wide, my guess is that the Pitsos is 45cm wide. I wish we could identify the Pitsos, but so far I don't recognize any brand in it that I am familiar with. But there is a lot I don't know ofcourse.

 

[panthera]

Yes,

I was thinking about that era. 

 

[neocho50]

@panthera I thought about Philips but it wanst sound like Philips!It was sound like a BSH washing maschine in final spin!And the way of spinning reminds my Bosch which is 15 years old!!

@foraloysius of course it cant be a BSH washer!!Just solb by the company but it was made by another manufacturer!Sometimes iam thinking that is Gorenje!2-3 Gorenje models were sold here in Greece as PITSOS.But it was sound like a BSH washing maschine in final spin!!Im sure about it!

 

[foraloysius]

That is very possible. Perhaps the motors are the same, most washing machines have a lot of parts from all kind of sources in them, so washing machines from different brands have often something in common, even when they don't belong to the same company.

Is that Pitsos your washing machine?

 

[panthera]

Philips

do sound very different to the B/S/H 'whine' of the '80s and '90s.

And they sound yet again different to the massive double-motor Miele washers which were perfect in every way.

B/S/H makes a lot of special order goods under unusual brand names for various outlets. I helped translate a small order (100,000) units they did under a store brand name for the Czech Republic a few years back. Inside, purely Siemens everything. Outside, nothing absolutely nothing which looked like B/S/H.

So - this could well be one of those washers they made in limited runs for somebody else.

One thing I learned through my translation and seminar work with them through many decades: They don't mind recycling 'old' technologies.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Pitsos Philips WMP

Hello Neo, another great top loader find, I wonder if it was produced under license from / by Philips / Pitsos because that control panel is more Philips Series 90 than BSH as Nigel mentioned, even the indentations on the push buttons, again perhaps Philips / Pitsos could have sourced the controls from a 3rd party manufacture !!

 

[neocho50]

A similar washer,sold here as philco and as frigidaire in europe.