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Scrolling through this week's Shop Rite flyer and noticed they are advertising a new "plant based" version of Tide - haven't been there to scope it out yet, but this should be interesting...

Anyone hear of this yet?
 
I've seen this stuff appear at Albertsons. Supposedly the cleaning power of Tide, but with a large percentage of plant-based ingredients. But I have no idea whether it actually delivers on the cleaning power promises, or not.

The one thing I did note in the Albertsons' flyer--the price is hefty. About $12 for 50 oz bottle. The same flyer has regular Tide listed for $12 for 92-100 oz. In store, I THINK I saw 50 oz bottles of Planet (a green brand) for well under $10. I'll be interested to see what other stores price this new Tide at, and how that price compares with the green brands stocked by those stores. Unless this new Tide is a lot cheaper elsewhere, I'm guessing it would cheaper to buy Seventh Generation.

I have used green brands at times, and I have to admit I'd be really curious to try this new Tide. But I probably won't--at least not at $12.
 
There is an extensive discussion over on Houzz about this. I bought it yesterday and tried it...I hate it. It has a strong, super sweet artificial fruity perfume. Here is the thread:

 
has a strong, super sweet artificial fruity perfume

I guess it wouldn't be scented Tide if it didn't have a strong perfume!

I gather the scent is artificial from what I've read, which is one negative. It's also puzzling: if one is making a plant based detergent, wouldn't it make sense to use a natural scent?

Strong scent will be one reason for me to avoid this product. Too bad, because I'd hoped this Tide might give a good balance between green detergents and more effective cleaning conventional detergents.
 
P&G

Is late to the game for a "Eco friendly" "green" detergent"
Wonder what horrid chemicals their going to use to scent this stuff with?
And what nose review committee give the thumbs up to the scents?
 
>And what nose review committee give the thumbs up to the scents?

One wonders what committee approved a number of Tide scents...

Old joke: camels are the result of an animal committee decision!
 
According to their website: "Surfactants are built from plant based feedstocks and contain petroleum based components. This is accounted for in the USDA Biopreferred certification. The formular in total is 65% bio based".

Correct me if I`m wrong, but I think it doesn`t make any difference to the outcome whether Sodium Laureth Sulfate is primarily sourced from mineral oil or from palm oil. At the end of the day it is still Sodium Laureth Sulfate, the only difference is that you either use up a finite resource (petrol) more quickly or get more orangutans in trouble. Both is not desirable but I think the general impact of detergents on the environment where they are used (and released) is much worse and the green washed ones aren`t much better in that perspective than conventionals. Biodegradability only accounts for the detergent`s surfactants and just because they degrade easily to a point where they don`t foam anymore doesn`t mean there are no chemicals left behind.

It`s also worth to mention that natural scents aren`t always better for the planet, for example natural essential orange oil (and other citrus oils) are extremly toxic to aquatic life.
P&G`s preference to heavy doses of artifical musk compounds in their scents isn`t any good either. If you wanted a really green scent, scent free would probably be the best solution but unfortunately no fun at all.

I`m ok with green washed products as long as they fulfill my personal needs exactly and don`t cost me much more than the usual stuff. Compared to the real green stuff green washed usually performs better and is much more fun to use. For example I prefer the glycerin of my moisturizer plant based instead of animal based even if it doesn`t make any difference quality wise because it`s still glycerin. I also detest tallow based soaps or fabric softeners. I eat meat but I don`t want it on my skin, period. I`m ok with petrol based surfactants but don`t accept mineral oils in a moisturizer. Just my personal choices...
However I see no real advantage of Tide Pureclean over regular Tide and the increase in price is just ridiculous. Would not buy it.

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It will be interesting to find out how it stacks up against Tide variants as well as other brands when CR tests it in 70-degree (F) water. Most green (or at least 'greener') detergents can't match the cleaning power of their more toxic siblings.[this post was last edited: 5/17/2016-05:16]

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I predict it will score almost as good as other Tide variants because it`s clearly just a "green washed" product judging from the ingredients list.
Enzymes by the way have no negative impact on the environment as far as I know.
 
Great discussion! It's worth noting Tide will be coming out with an unscented variant of purclean soon (according to Amazon). The lavender honey scent is downright awful! I think I'm going to return it to the store. I also commented about the awful scent on Tide's Facebook page.

I've wondered the same thing in terms of plant-based formulas being more earth friendly verses petroleum based detergents. It's certainly not good for the earth to clearcut a rainforest to grow the palm or coconut ingredients that go into these green detergents. Not to mention the child labor that's involved.
 
>It will be interesting to find out how it stacks up against Tide variants as well as other brands when CR tests it in 70-degree (F) water. Most green (or at least 'greener') detergents can't match the cleaning power of their more toxic siblings.

Yes it will be interesting if/when CR tests this detergent at 70 degrees. Tide claims Tide purclean works in cold water...

Green detergents probably don't generally match the cleaning power of Tide. At one time, I heavily used green detergents. They often worked OK for my needs, but my needs day to day is mostly "freshening" and not nightmare loads. A lot, I think, depends on the washer--I had better results with better washers. It also probably helped using heated water, even though green detergents often promoted energy saving cold water washes.

This last point brings up an interesting thought. I haven't experimented with colder temperatures, but I suspect that one would likely have better luck turning the temperature dial down with something Tide Coldwater. Even regular Tide seems more likely to work well at, say, 60-something. So from a view of energy savings, Tide in conventional form might be more green overall than a green detergent.
 
I thought the same thing on the scent of the new Tide! Who the hell comes up with these scents and do they even have a nose? I gave it a whiff at the local mercantile and wasn't impressed at all. A friend of mine bought a bottle to see how it would do but now he is rethinking that idea since he smelled it after the fact. I have learned the hard way to always sniff before you buy because how it smells in the bottle more than likely isn't going to smell well once its used and your clothes reek of the stuff.
The other thing is this, most "green" detergents , in my opinion and experience, do not clean well. I will stick my Persil thank you very much! Original scent Liquid and PowerPearls aka MegaPearls and the 2n1. Love that stuff since I no longer have to pretreat and I don't need those Tide Boost Pacs either.
See I didn't stray too off topic....lol
 

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