richardc1983
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Thanks guys. What's the power input then and why does it use an element if heat is generated from the air via the element?
Please reccomend a decent but affordable condenser dryer
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seamusuk
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Cant speak for the Beko...
Hey Richard
The Miele is rated at 1.5kw so much lower than a normal condenser
Seamus
Hey Richard
The Miele is rated at 1.5kw so much lower than a normal condenser
Seamus
richardc1983
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According to the website where I bought it from under specs it says rated 2.68kwh
This perhaps means the output of the heat pump though. Not nessersary the input.
This perhaps means the output of the heat pump though. Not nessersary the input.
richardc1983
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Took the indesit compact back to sonic yesterday. They tried to get me to buy one of the beko models I had listed as they didn't have the heat pump one in stock. I told them even if they still had it in stock they would have been more expensive than where I have purchased from.
Tried to do my fellas washing yesterday. 4 loads in the Hoover and was still trying to dry this morning over radiators! Put towels out yesterday at midday they were still wet at 8pm last night!!!
Tried to do my fellas washing yesterday. 4 loads in the Hoover and was still trying to dry this morning over radiators! Put towels out yesterday at midday they were still wet at 8pm last night!!!
4 Loads!
Are you sure he is not taking in washing for the whole street! To be honest, if I had that much to dry I would take it to the launderette and dry it there.
Got a load in the Beko now:
Kingsize duvet
2 kingsize bottom sheets
4 pillow cases
12 T shirts
12 Underpants
About 12 handkerchief
I did this lot as two loads in the Miele (I might have pushed it as one load) - doing fine
Al
Are you sure he is not taking in washing for the whole street! To be honest, if I had that much to dry I would take it to the launderette and dry it there.
Got a load in the Beko now:
Kingsize duvet
2 kingsize bottom sheets
4 pillow cases
12 T shirts
12 Underpants
About 12 handkerchief
I did this lot as two loads in the Miele (I might have pushed it as one load) - doing fine
Al
richardc1983
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He has horses so is at stables twice a day so has two changes of clothes morning and evening then usual work stuff and clothes in between plus a couple of towels!
Here's his typical wash basket the first time I did it all!
Here's his typical wash basket the first time I did it all!
sesteve
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Blimey!!
I thought mine got through lots of washing even without the horses but I can see now why your door boot ends up groaning.
Great choice going for the heat pump. I bought a John Lewis heat pump dryer about 4/5 years ago and it's been great in terms of energy saving (I work in energy which is why I justified the expense and the reason for getting a dryer at the time as well having underfloor heating which meant no radiators).
The only downside of mine is that it is not so great at retaining all the moisture though but I'm sure the new machines are much better. I've noticed that I can put anything in the dryer too and it doesn't shrink or damage so it seems the lower temp helps.
Lets us know when you get it
Cheers
Stephen
I thought mine got through lots of washing even without the horses but I can see now why your door boot ends up groaning.
Great choice going for the heat pump. I bought a John Lewis heat pump dryer about 4/5 years ago and it's been great in terms of energy saving (I work in energy which is why I justified the expense and the reason for getting a dryer at the time as well having underfloor heating which meant no radiators).
The only downside of mine is that it is not so great at retaining all the moisture though but I'm sure the new machines are much better. I've noticed that I can put anything in the dryer too and it doesn't shrink or damage so it seems the lower temp helps.
Lets us know when you get it
Cheers
Stephen
Steve..
...a fellow AEG fan
You say you have had a heat pump for about 5 years, how long have they been about? I was under the impression they were fairly new. Would like to see a pic of your John Lewis dryer. Their current range of laundry appliances are Electrolux/AEG sourced was it the same when you got yours?
B
...a fellow AEG fan
You say you have had a heat pump for about 5 years, how long have they been about? I was under the impression they were fairly new. Would like to see a pic of your John Lewis dryer. Their current range of laundry appliances are Electrolux/AEG sourced was it the same when you got yours?
B
richardc1983
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Yes Stephen, 5 loads on the floor in piles and 1 in the washer already!
Saving all my washing up and just changed bedding and looking forward to the dryer arriving next week!
Saving all my washing up and just changed bedding and looking forward to the dryer arriving next week!
sesteve
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Hi Richard
Well it will certainly be put through its paces and you should save a small fortune on the leccy bill!!
Hi Brendon
Yes this is basically an AEG model - they also had a heat pump dryer out at the same time and I think it was the first on the market. I think I got it in 2007 and it cost £500. I remember Which? reviewing it. Not sure if they went back to the drawing board for a while as I hadn't see it in the shops more recently. Still going strong but the fluff is beginning to build on the heat exchanger so might look to try a thorough clean in the summer.
Well it will certainly be put through its paces and you should save a small fortune on the leccy bill!!
Hi Brendon
Yes this is basically an AEG model - they also had a heat pump dryer out at the same time and I think it was the first on the market. I think I got it in 2007 and it cost £500. I remember Which? reviewing it. Not sure if they went back to the drawing board for a while as I hadn't see it in the shops more recently. Still going strong but the fluff is beginning to build on the heat exchanger so might look to try a thorough clean in the summer.
sesteve
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I have it in a cupboard in the living room at the moment as i re-fitted the kitchen with built in appliances to sell it. It's on top of the Meile which isn't plumbed in.
Nice..
...control panel Steve, I like all the buttons. So you have had quire a few years good service out of it then, that' s good to know. How do you clean your heat exchanger - what does this "thorough clean" consist of. Also how old is that Miele below the dryer in the pic.
Richard - lol lucky you, I seem to run out of laundry to play with quite regularly. How old it that Hoover? I used a similar one approx 15 years ago whilst house sitting -was very impressed with its purposeful sound and high water levels! You have any vids of it running?
B
...control panel Steve, I like all the buttons. So you have had quire a few years good service out of it then, that' s good to know. How do you clean your heat exchanger - what does this "thorough clean" consist of. Also how old is that Miele below the dryer in the pic.
Richard - lol lucky you, I seem to run out of laundry to play with quite regularly. How old it that Hoover? I used a similar one approx 15 years ago whilst house sitting -was very impressed with its purposeful sound and high water levels! You have any vids of it running?
B
richardc1983
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It's about 35 years old lol!
Advice re cleaning the condenser - I work in air con and the condenser is known in the business as the "evaporator" best way to clean it is with vacuum cleaner but do not press the fins they damage easily.
Also you can clean them by spraying a spray bottle of water to flush anything out but vacuum first otherwise you will push the lint further into the coil.
Advice re cleaning the condenser - I work in air con and the condenser is known in the business as the "evaporator" best way to clean it is with vacuum cleaner but do not press the fins they damage easily.
Also you can clean them by spraying a spray bottle of water to flush anything out but vacuum first otherwise you will push the lint further into the coil.
richardc1983
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Already having trouble with ultimate appliances. Rang them last week to ask when delivery date was they said they was getting them in today (Monday 4th) and would be delivered Wed 6th to me. Now they are saying they getting them in this week and they will be dispatched next week to me.
So I have had to do 2 washes today and have it hanging up all over the place! Will leave bedding & towels till next week.
So I have had to do 2 washes today and have it hanging up all over the place! Will leave bedding & towels till next week.
richardc1983
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Had a call today dryer will be delivered between 4&7pm on Friday! Just in time for the weekend
hoovermatic
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....people often forget about the water used for a conventional condensor which if You are on a meter will end up costing too........
Pardon my ignorance but what do you mean by this? I have had a condenser dryer for 14 years and this statement has me scratching my head! Thanks
Pardon my ignorance but what do you mean by this? I have had a condenser dryer for 14 years and this statement has me scratching my head! Thanks
Me tinks...
Suds is equating it the usage of a washer dryer which as you know when using the condenser dryer uses large amounts of water which most people are not aware of!!
Suds is equating it the usage of a washer dryer which as you know when using the condenser dryer uses large amounts of water which most people are not aware of!!
Oops....
...yes, totally forgot that it was on the washer dryer! Apologies. Ok then I have a question how does a condensor dryer work then?! I obviously am out of my depth - will keep quiet now
B
...yes, totally forgot that it was on the washer dryer! Apologies. Ok then I have a question how does a condensor dryer work then?! I obviously am out of my depth - will keep quiet now
B
hoovermatic
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Thanks for the explanation guys!
......years ago (1996) I rented a washer dryer from Radio Rentals (remember them?) but rarely used the dryer as it was so small capacity (4.5 lbs) and took HOURS!! I was on a water meter then but had no idea that it actually USED water in the drying process - maybe just as well I didn't use it lol! As far as I am aware the moist air from the drying clothes passes over the many fins of the condenser unit and the water drains into the reservoir. I am sure that is a hideously simplistic explanation but that seems to be it as far as I can see!
......years ago (1996) I rented a washer dryer from Radio Rentals (remember them?) but rarely used the dryer as it was so small capacity (4.5 lbs) and took HOURS!! I was on a water meter then but had no idea that it actually USED water in the drying process - maybe just as well I didn't use it lol! As far as I am aware the moist air from the drying clothes passes over the many fins of the condenser unit and the water drains into the reservoir. I am sure that is a hideously simplistic explanation but that seems to be it as far as I can see!
richardc1983
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A condenser dryer works by passing the hot moist air of the condenser (similar to the cold coil known as the evaporator in an air con unit). This is the cartridge cassette you pull out to clean every so often.
This cartridge has wide flat tubes that overlep each other and run from top to bottom and left to right but they dont join up. Hot moist air is pulled through one set of tubes running usually the longest way of the condenser cartridge and fan sucks room temperature air thruogh the other set of tubes. This cools the cartridge down to dew point (similar to a glass of ice cold water on a hot day) and the moisture in the hot air sticks to the cooler surface. This is then collected in the water tank or drained away. The cooled dryer air then recirculated back through the heating elements and back into the dryer. As the room temperature air is the "refrigerant" in this case it is not that good as a cooling medium which is why condenser dryers have bad press at being slow.
IN a heat pump dryer the condenser cartridge is replaced by an evaporator coil identical to that of an air con or dehumidifier system. A cooling circuit setup the same as in an air con system is plumbed into the dryer with refrigerant running through the evaporator this brings the evaporator coil down to a very cold temperature and is much more efficient at removing the moisture from the damp hot air. After the evaporator coil is the condenser coil (hot side or outdoor coil in an air con unit). This is setup in the same way as a dehumidifier with a compressor.. the cold dry air is then reheated back upto temperature and makes it way back into the dryer to repeat the cycle.
I found this also:
http://ths.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/laundry/2004120958010854.html
http://ths.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/laundry/2004120958010854.html
This cartridge has wide flat tubes that overlep each other and run from top to bottom and left to right but they dont join up. Hot moist air is pulled through one set of tubes running usually the longest way of the condenser cartridge and fan sucks room temperature air thruogh the other set of tubes. This cools the cartridge down to dew point (similar to a glass of ice cold water on a hot day) and the moisture in the hot air sticks to the cooler surface. This is then collected in the water tank or drained away. The cooled dryer air then recirculated back through the heating elements and back into the dryer. As the room temperature air is the "refrigerant" in this case it is not that good as a cooling medium which is why condenser dryers have bad press at being slow.
IN a heat pump dryer the condenser cartridge is replaced by an evaporator coil identical to that of an air con or dehumidifier system. A cooling circuit setup the same as in an air con system is plumbed into the dryer with refrigerant running through the evaporator this brings the evaporator coil down to a very cold temperature and is much more efficient at removing the moisture from the damp hot air. After the evaporator coil is the condenser coil (hot side or outdoor coil in an air con unit). This is setup in the same way as a dehumidifier with a compressor.. the cold dry air is then reheated back upto temperature and makes it way back into the dryer to repeat the cycle.
I found this also:
http://ths.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/laundry/2004120958010854.html
http://ths.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/laundry/2004120958010854.html
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