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Is there such a thing as a pocket door lock that can't be defeated by a knife, nail file, or the like?

 

I've found it necessary to make things more secure, but what I've seen on line are bulky mechanisms designed for sliding glass patio doors. 

 

I'd really rather not have to resort to a hook & eye arrangement.

 

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Because of the nature of pocket doors locks aren't the most secure things but assuming you're talking about a privacy lock - not an entrance lock with a key - they are readily available. Link is to an Emtek 2102, you should check Baldwin as well. Emtek is generally a little cheaper but decent quality, both are standard brands for most hardware vendors. I believe Baldwin has a key lock for pocket doors too though that is likely a special order item.

 
The type of hardware shown in the link is what I already have.  It seems there's nothing out there of this same design with a latch that can't be lifted with a thin implement.

 

I've given this some thought and have concluded that the best solution is to nail a thin strip of trim or molding (1/8" thick would be enough) to the framing on the outside of the door.  That will make it impossible to insert a blade of any kind between the door and the frame, thwarting anyone intending to flip up the latch and gain entry.

 

Additional ideas are welcome. 
 
If the door is making you feel insecure for whatever reason.  Have a home company come out  and install a regular door that can be correctly locked with a dead bolt that requires a key inside and out.  You have to make thieves go out the way they got in.  Could this door be covered with an ironwork security door that swings out, with an integrated storm door? A picture would help greatly.  I do see your reason for concern our last house had a steel reinforced entry door in front and a double sliding glass door in back the goofiest arrangement I could ever think of.  What are you trying to deter?  Home invasion or burglary while you are not at home? If the door in question is a solid pane of glass, it really makes no difference what kind of lock you put on it. I am sorry you are experiencing these problems, it is a real violation. Do you have any companies that can assess the risk and advise you?  ALR
 
Sorry I did not want to edit again.  The wood strip idea would not work here.  They would simply break the glass and unlatch the door. Your floor plan or the location of the door may be  different than our set up.   ALR
 
Ralph, what is the exact situation of the door, is it interior or exterior? Breaking in through a pocket door isn't normally an issue because they're not used in exterior locations. About the only time you need a lock is if the door is to a bathroom or bedroom, thus a privacy lock is adequate and what most manufacturers would offer. Take a careful look at the Baldwin catalogue, IIRC they once made a key lock pocket door.

 

When you have an oddball hardware request it can be helpful to call or visit some older, high-line hardware vendors; there should be several of those in SF.
 
OK, You Asked . . .

Dave's sister was here to visit.  She's bi-polar, but also is quite with-it when she wants to be, and prides herself on being an obnoxious imposition.

 

The subject pocket door used to be a regular hinged door into a guest bathroom off the laundry room/den area.  We recently remodeled this bathroom and, since it had been added on in the 1960s directly behind the master bedroom, we broke through to the bedroom in order to create a master bath, which this house has never had.   I designed it to retain access to the laundry room, but due to space issues it made more sense to replace the standard door with a pocket door.

 

Of course, it has been an ongoing issue to get visitors out of the habit of using this bathroom, and I knew that with her, it would be a serious challenge.  She goes above and beyond in making herself at home, and also has a penchant for putting anything new through its paces, just because.

 

For the first time, I knew it would be necessary to lock the pocket door to keep her from using this room, and get her into the habit of using the other bathroom on the same floor from now on.

 

She was apparently having none of it.  I was shocked to find that she wasted no time after she arrived in breaching the pocket door lock.  I thought maybe it was a fluke and that I hadn't actually latched it.  I locked it again.  She breached it again.  Four more times.

 

She even tried to dye her hair and then shower in there, which I interrupted and told her to use the other bathroom.  Like, she should have used her own bathroom at home to dye her hair before she got here, but again, she prides herself on being the house guest from hell.

 

I debated about confronting her, but didn't want an awkward situation for the remainder of the time she spent here, which was only one night.  Since Dave's stroke, he can't express himself well, or believe me, she'd have gotten a lecture from him -- he's a Scorpio, and he's her older brother.   I will address this with her next time she calls and invites herself.   Respect any door that's locked, and no hair dying allowed.

 

I still can't trust her to follow the rules, so intend to thwart her attempts to breach the lock in the future.  Don't even get me started on the nerve, disrespect, and sense of entitlement she displayed.  If it were up to me, she'd not be allowed here anymore.  She's used to getting away with this sort of behavior with friends and family, but she has put me over the edge with this latest incident.

 

So there you have it.  I think my simple strip of trim will do the trick, won't look bad once painted, and the sense of victory will be rewarding.  The added bonus will be eliminating a small, uneven slice of light that can be seen from the outside when the door is closed against the frame.  It was hung just slightly askew and there's no way to adjust it, so the strip will hide that flaw.
 
"I thought you were in imminent danger."

No, just the facilities, and pretty much anything she touches.

 

She was passing through on her way to a wedding.   Visiting her brother was incidental.   Dave's entire family has been asleep at the wheel since he had his stroke nearly five years ago.  The whole lot of them aren't exactly astro-physicists.

 

Excellent suggestion on locking the door to the bathroom we want her to use!  LOL!
 
Look into something called a pocket door jamb bolt. I believe there's supposed to be a small hole in the opposite side of the door to release the lock in an emergency, but I think you could skip that. My parents have one of these in their house and I think it's a lot easier to operate than the typical pocket door lock, but I never noticed if they have the emergency release on theirs. The Youtube link below shows how the lock operates.

 

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