To quote W.C. Fields regarding the claims made in the text, "Bushwah."
POD 11/21/11, Frigidaire mid 50s DW
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And that is putting it mildly too Tom!! What a joke!!!!! No "truth in advertising" here!!
turquoisedude
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I concur...
I worked very hard to restore a machine just like the one in this ad but sheesh, when I tested it, I was not that impressed...
The selling point about the long stemware makes sense, though. But 'greasy pots and pans'.... Um... NO! LOL
I worked very hard to restore a machine just like the one in this ad but sheesh, when I tested it, I was not that impressed...
The selling point about the long stemware makes sense, though. But 'greasy pots and pans'.... Um... NO! LOL
philr
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Paul, is there any difference in the washing action (water pressure, the number of jets or number/length of rinses) between the early spin tube models and later ones, like the 1962 you gave me (other than the added wash arm at the top on the even newer ones?) or is it just the shape of the racks that changed? Do you know when detergent dispensers were introduced on higher end models?
All of the above
The holes in the '63 were large and slot-like, and there was the constant rinse on the top. Later models would forego the nice, flat, arched top rack, in favor of a many-tined monstrosity that gave extra space for loading bowls and saucers, but lost forever the nice place to put deeper dishes and mixing bowls/pots/pans.
I had excellent results from my Custom Imperial with the double-wash and double (covered, triggered) dispenser, but I had soft and steamin' hot water. I even got to where I could load pots and pans in the bottom and they'd get clean.
However, the only way eleven-inch plates would fit in that thing would be if we were talking AOL inches. I had some 10" plates, and they would hang up on the top rack, so I had to pull out the bottom rack, pull out the top rack, lift up the top rack, stand up the plates, let the top rack drop back down, push both back into the dishwasher, and voila.
Needless (needle-less?) to say, that lost its charm after a while.
The holes in the '63 were large and slot-like, and there was the constant rinse on the top. Later models would forego the nice, flat, arched top rack, in favor of a many-tined monstrosity that gave extra space for loading bowls and saucers, but lost forever the nice place to put deeper dishes and mixing bowls/pots/pans.
I had excellent results from my Custom Imperial with the double-wash and double (covered, triggered) dispenser, but I had soft and steamin' hot water. I even got to where I could load pots and pans in the bottom and they'd get clean.
However, the only way eleven-inch plates would fit in that thing would be if we were talking AOL inches. I had some 10" plates, and they would hang up on the top rack, so I had to pull out the bottom rack, pull out the top rack, lift up the top rack, stand up the plates, let the top rack drop back down, push both back into the dishwasher, and voila.
Needless (needle-less?) to say, that lost its charm after a while.
steved
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detergent dispensers
were introduced in the Custom Imperial models in 1959. It was an exclusive feature on Custom Imperials only, until the 1966 line, when the Imperial model was introduced. It wasn't until 1968 when all front-loading Frigidaire dishwashers featured a dual detergent dispenser.
were introduced in the Custom Imperial models in 1959. It was an exclusive feature on Custom Imperials only, until the 1966 line, when the Imperial model was introduced. It wasn't until 1968 when all front-loading Frigidaire dishwashers featured a dual detergent dispenser.
I remember seeing two different wash arm + tower Frigidaire dishwashers that had a single, screen covered recess in the door for detergent.
steved
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yes Tom
You are right but it was only a protected cup, not a true dispenser. The perforated cover did not open and the first wash was the main wash. The cycle was basically the same as on the "Deluxe" Spin-tube model.
This dispenser was on the first "Deluxe" spray arm model (1965 - J) and lasted only one year. On the K models they used the little screen in the silver basket for the detergent.
You are right but it was only a protected cup, not a true dispenser. The perforated cover did not open and the first wash was the main wash. The cycle was basically the same as on the "Deluxe" Spin-tube model.
This dispenser was on the first "Deluxe" spray arm model (1965 - J) and lasted only one year. On the K models they used the little screen in the silver basket for the detergent.
philr
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Is there somebody that could lead me where to find parts for a Custom Imperial spintube dishwasher? I'd be interested in a complete door to convert one of my Deluxe dishwashers into a Custom Imperial (if that's possible!). I'd also like to get a plain timer knob for a '63-'64.
Steve, I looked at that and wondered why they even bothered with the screen unless the machine had a purge, not the Stalinist kind, but a pre-wash purge since there was no pre-rinse to warm up the insides and the screen was to keep the detergent dry. So one wash and 4 rinses--not exactly progress from the mid 50s to the mid 60s. There was a house in our neighborhood that was on the market for a long time that had that model. The builder liked Frigidaire appliances, but no other house had that el cheapo dw in it. Our builder used GE appliances and said our house was the only one he built with a KA dw because it was specified.
No purge?
Not the post-binging kind either, but my Dishmobile spin-tube had a purge. Not only before the first wash, but after every cycle segment prior to the next fill. Was this something unique to the Custom Imperials?
Not the post-binging kind either, but my Dishmobile spin-tube had a purge. Not only before the first wash, but after every cycle segment prior to the next fill. Was this something unique to the Custom Imperials?
Nate, the 1963 Custom Deluxe that friends had, I do remember the purge before the 1st (only) wash. but I don't remember if there was a purge before the first of the 3 rinses (which would have really been the 2nd wash on the Custom Imperial.) Now mind you, I cannot remember the exact phrasing on the dial, but that was also the beginning point for the short wash cycle (or the similar concept of the shortened cycle) , so there could have been a purge there too.
steved
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Nope
They had 3 purges per full cycle on both Custom Imperial and Deluxe models. First, before the pre wash (or main wash on the Deluxe), then prior to the two rinses. The purge ("flush" they called it) was eliminated with the spray tube. I added a relay on mine and eliminated the flush and saved 5 1/2 gallons of hot water. The full cycle now only uses a little over 7 gallons.
They had 3 purges per full cycle on both Custom Imperial and Deluxe models. First, before the pre wash (or main wash on the Deluxe), then prior to the two rinses. The purge ("flush" they called it) was eliminated with the spray tube. I added a relay on mine and eliminated the flush and saved 5 1/2 gallons of hot water. The full cycle now only uses a little over 7 gallons.
steved
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Correct, Tom
So one wash and 4 rinses--
Yes and each rinse was only 2 or 3 minutes long. Same was true for the Custom Imperial except it has 2 washes and 3 rinses. And those washes were only 4 minutes long.
So one wash and 4 rinses--
Yes and each rinse was only 2 or 3 minutes long. Same was true for the Custom Imperial except it has 2 washes and 3 rinses. And those washes were only 4 minutes long.
Steve, when I read the cycle chart, I wondered how it cleaned dishes with such a short wash. What Frigidaire did not know about making dishwashers would have filled a book. When you consider their washers, you would think that their dishwashers would scrub the daisies off dishes but that was not the case.
And what about the plastic timer ring and the chrome button with pointer that you pushed in to start the cycle? The only way to advance it was to pry off the face of the plastic ring so that you could grab the button and turn it.
And what about the plastic timer ring and the chrome button with pointer that you pushed in to start the cycle? The only way to advance it was to pry off the face of the plastic ring so that you could grab the button and turn it.
steved
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The "J" Super model ?
It didn't even tell you what part of the cycle it was in. "Just press the button" for a full wash. They did add a little in the 67 & 68's with an outer dial to correspond to the line on that chrome button.
I don't care, though, I still love 'em.
It didn't even tell you what part of the cycle it was in. "Just press the button" for a full wash. They did add a little in the 67 & 68's with an outer dial to correspond to the line on that chrome button.
I don't care, though, I still love 'em.
philr
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Steve,
Do you have pics of the "J" super model? The only "J" Super model I have ever seen is my top-loading D&M, and I don't think it has much in common with it! Was 1965 the first year for Frigidaire Super dishwashers (other than the D&M sourced top-loaders)?
BTW, I haven't connected your former 1964 DeLuxe spin tube yet but I did a few tests with non-rinsed dishes in the 1962 (which lacks the upper spray arm of the newer ones) and I think I'm getting better at loading it properly! I just can't figure how to load things like tall Mason jars so they get washed! I think it's probably just impossible to wash these in it!
If you ever come across some Custom Imperial parts (drain valve motor, inner/outer door, timer...) that you don't need, let me know!
Do you have pics of the "J" super model? The only "J" Super model I have ever seen is my top-loading D&M, and I don't think it has much in common with it! Was 1965 the first year for Frigidaire Super dishwashers (other than the D&M sourced top-loaders)?
BTW, I haven't connected your former 1964 DeLuxe spin tube yet but I did a few tests with non-rinsed dishes in the 1962 (which lacks the upper spray arm of the newer ones) and I think I'm getting better at loading it properly! I just can't figure how to load things like tall Mason jars so they get washed! I think it's probably just impossible to wash these in it!
If you ever come across some Custom Imperial parts (drain valve motor, inner/outer door, timer...) that you don't need, let me know!
steved
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65 Super Dishmobile
I think back to 1965 and any kind of dishwasher would have been great, no matter how plain.
I think back to 1965 and any kind of dishwasher would have been great, no matter how plain.
steved
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cost savings
I've always wondered how much was the manufacturing cost savings difference to justify such a no frills model?
I've always wondered how much was the manufacturing cost savings difference to justify such a no frills model?
philr
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Thanks for the pics Steve!
65 Super Dishmobile!
I knew someone that had this above model. It did wash decent enough, but if you wanted to shorten, reset or cancel cycle you couldnt. You needed to let the timer go all the way around by itself. (stupid idea) in my openion!
Peter
I knew someone that had this above model. It did wash decent enough, but if you wanted to shorten, reset or cancel cycle you couldnt. You needed to let the timer go all the way around by itself. (stupid idea) in my openion!
Peter
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