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These are AFAIK the most hated DW ever. But I doubt its purley the machine. Not that you are the only problem, but maybe you can adapt to the machine.
But first off, these DW are little more complicated to raise the water level on. At least, no body I heared of ever did. But I doubt that water is your major problem.
Before I write hours and hours about what one can do to improve performance, I'd rather ask you some questions.
1. What detergent do you use?
2. What cycle do you use?
3. Which options do you use?
4. How do you load it?
5. Do you wash, rinse or scrape before loading?
Several things you can try is to just add water manually to the main wash. Wait until you hear the detergent flap opening. Then, open the machine and add 4-5 cups of water. That might clear up if this machine actually has a problem with to low water levels.
Run the tap on a sink next to the DW until hot water comes out of it. That is supposed to improve cleaning.
You might try to clean the filter and then just run an empty wash on Heavy with SaniRinse\Hi-Temp wash.
Bad cleaning can have to many reasons to just guess into the blue, especially with a DW.
These are AFAIK the most hated DW ever. But I doubt its purley the machine. Not that you are the only problem, but maybe you can adapt to the machine.
But first off, these DW are little more complicated to raise the water level on. At least, no body I heared of ever did. But I doubt that water is your major problem.
Before I write hours and hours about what one can do to improve performance, I'd rather ask you some questions.
1. What detergent do you use?
2. What cycle do you use?
3. Which options do you use?
4. How do you load it?
5. Do you wash, rinse or scrape before loading?
Several things you can try is to just add water manually to the main wash. Wait until you hear the detergent flap opening. Then, open the machine and add 4-5 cups of water. That might clear up if this machine actually has a problem with to low water levels.
Run the tap on a sink next to the DW until hot water comes out of it. That is supposed to improve cleaning.
You might try to clean the filter and then just run an empty wash on Heavy with SaniRinse\Hi-Temp wash.
Bad cleaning can have to many reasons to just guess into the blue, especially with a DW.
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henene4 thanks for the advice. I serviced home and commercial appliances for 12 years and I agree with the direction you took. It looks like WP's dishwashers are the same junk their laundry equipment has turned in to. If I get anywhere I let y'all know.
henene4 thanks for the advice. I serviced home and commercial appliances for 12 years and I agree with the direction you took. It looks like WP's dishwashers are the same junk their laundry equipment has turned in to. If I get anywhere I let y'all know.
murando531
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My mother-in-law and her new husband had almost this exact dishwasher and they hated it. Granted, neither of them know how to load a dishwasher worth a flip, let alone know the ins and outs of operating it properly. Still, try as I may to help them correct bad habits, it still wouldn't clean well.
My biggest pieces of advice for them were to use a high-end detergent like Finish Powerballs or Cascade Complete/Platinum, ALONG with a rinse aid in the dispenser. They seemed determined to buy cheap store brand LIQUID gels, a huge no-no in any machine, period. Also, these machines are very finicky when it comes to solid food particles, so the best defense is to use a silicon spatula or something to squeegee the dishes off before loading them, that way there isn't water being wasted to prerinse them, but you're also making sure that only water soluble soil is left on. Silverware is especially crucial to keep separated by the dividers in the basket; for some reason my mom-in-law seems determined to flip up the dividers, and cram and handful of silverware into a single compartment FACE DOWN (nearly gives me a heart attack everytime).
Other than that, the only thing I can think of is to use a heavy cycle or add Hi Temp to the cycle whenever there's more than just some residual liquid soil or something on the dishware.
They only had that machine for about 6 months before finally taking my original advice and getting the Maytag they have now, which performs beautifully in spite of their lack of skill when it comes to operating a dishwasher.
My biggest pieces of advice for them were to use a high-end detergent like Finish Powerballs or Cascade Complete/Platinum, ALONG with a rinse aid in the dispenser. They seemed determined to buy cheap store brand LIQUID gels, a huge no-no in any machine, period. Also, these machines are very finicky when it comes to solid food particles, so the best defense is to use a silicon spatula or something to squeegee the dishes off before loading them, that way there isn't water being wasted to prerinse them, but you're also making sure that only water soluble soil is left on. Silverware is especially crucial to keep separated by the dividers in the basket; for some reason my mom-in-law seems determined to flip up the dividers, and cram and handful of silverware into a single compartment FACE DOWN (nearly gives me a heart attack everytime).
Other than that, the only thing I can think of is to use a heavy cycle or add Hi Temp to the cycle whenever there's more than just some residual liquid soil or something on the dishware.
They only had that machine for about 6 months before finally taking my original advice and getting the Maytag they have now, which performs beautifully in spite of their lack of skill when it comes to operating a dishwasher.
whirlcool
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This conversation reminds me of the nutty woman down the street. She insists that her KitchenAid dishwasher never cleans dishes properly. Until I saw her use the machine.
First thing wrong. Take a large roasting pan and put it on it's narrow edge so that the bottom of the pan covers the detergent dispenser. "But that's the only way it will fit in there!" Then take some of the cheapest store brand gel and put in a small squirt, maybe the size of a dime in the detergent dispenser. Never predrain the cold water out of the pipe, just press start. Then set the machine for the shortest possible cycle.
Voila! Dirty dishes with a detergent dispenser only partially open! Some people just need to have their appliances taken away from them! They don't have the mental ability to use them.
First thing wrong. Take a large roasting pan and put it on it's narrow edge so that the bottom of the pan covers the detergent dispenser. "But that's the only way it will fit in there!" Then take some of the cheapest store brand gel and put in a small squirt, maybe the size of a dime in the detergent dispenser. Never predrain the cold water out of the pipe, just press start. Then set the machine for the shortest possible cycle.
Voila! Dirty dishes with a detergent dispenser only partially open! Some people just need to have their appliances taken away from them! They don't have the mental ability to use them.
mark_wpduet
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Whirlcool
you crack me up every time -
but yea, the Whirlpool vs Maytag dishwashers (from what I understand) are no comparison. The Maytag's are so much better!! I can't get enough of my Maytag dishwasher. Can't believe next month I will have had it a year. I hope Whirlpool doesn't turn the Maytag line into what their Whirlpool line is now!
you crack me up every time -
but yea, the Whirlpool vs Maytag dishwashers (from what I understand) are no comparison. The Maytag's are so much better!! I can't get enough of my Maytag dishwasher. Can't believe next month I will have had it a year. I hope Whirlpool doesn't turn the Maytag line into what their Whirlpool line is now!
I think that DW manufacturers have figured out that most users thoroughly pre-rinse dishes before loading. The last few homes in which I have dined, I have noticed that the women had the kitchen faucet running full blast and they were rinsing plates one at a time before loading them into the machine. Maybe this is the expected soil level on the dishes that most people are loading into their machines and why the machines don't really have to clean.
Tom, we're in the small minority--no pre-rinsing. And why sensors are good. No dirt, use the lowest-energy usage combination.
My sweet Mom in law would actually wash the plates in soapy water and then put in her pristine KA on normal cycle with cascade. There was no changing her ways!
mark_wpduet
Well-known member
When we grew up
my grandma would always rinse and make us rinse the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher in the 80s, UNLESS we were running the dishwasher right away. I don't think it was fear of them not coming clean, but she just didn't want dirty dishes sitting in there for 2 or 3 days if she wasn't going to be cooking and it didn't need running or something. I even remember telling her that at our house we never rinsed them before loading the dishwasher even if we weren't running it right away, she didn't care - they had to be rinsed.
my grandma would always rinse and make us rinse the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher in the 80s, UNLESS we were running the dishwasher right away. I don't think it was fear of them not coming clean, but she just didn't want dirty dishes sitting in there for 2 or 3 days if she wasn't going to be cooking and it didn't need running or something. I even remember telling her that at our house we never rinsed them before loading the dishwasher even if we weren't running it right away, she didn't care - they had to be rinsed.
