Poppy comes to Boston

[ovrphil]

It was a bolt and nut that got me thinking about torque settings on a washer rebuild. What areas are critical to torque and what aren't..and thought about the very thing you encountered, where service manual information is either missing or maybe elsewhere.

Great sleuthing to locate the torque settings. Experience is still a good start, eh Jon?

..and your restoration thread continues to grow in interest.

 

[DADoES]

 
I recall in previous research on a project that conversion between inch-pounds and foot-pounds is by multiplier/divisor of 12, same as inches & feet of length.  But I only researched it once ...

 

[jetcone]

yes Glenn

but a f-p torque wrench will never have the sensitivity so conversation doesn't help in this case.

 

 

 

[philr]

I have a similar issue with a spin clutch that's too tight on one of my Rollermatic Rapidry washers (with the Sure-Spin clutch). I do have the adjusting tool but I haven't done it yet. On the 1967-70 Rapidry models, the brake can be adjusted by the nut that holds the clutch basket on the spin shaft but the spin clutch has to be adjusted with a special tool.

 

[joelippard]

My consolation on have to re-adjust the clutch.  I did this exact same thing myself on the last solid-tub Rapidry I rebuilt.  I don't have the benefit of the clutch adjusting tool (but I'll buy one from anyone wanting to sell an extra) and I knew darn well I wasn't pulling the pump again just to adjust that clutch.  I devised a system with three screwdrivers to adjust it with. Difficult and treacherous to use but it did the job.  Fortunately the 1-18 clutch is easier to deal with.  Looking forward to the videos.

 

[jetcone]

Yes I adjusted in the machine today

all I had to do was disconnect the agitate arm. Once I got the clutch apart I realized something seeing nekkad components before me. For braking to occur the spin wheel has to turn free of the spin shaft when the motor shuts down. I read this in Doctrine but it never really sunk in till I nekkad spin wheel components.

If the clutch is adjusted too tight the spin wheel will always be "locked" to the spin shaft and tub and braking won't initiate. [You also need a full diameter roller as well.  But we've already covered that]

 

I got Poppy adjusted to 20 in-# right smack in the middle between 18-24 in-#. It was up at 50-55 in-#'s !!

What a difference even I couldn't believe it tonight. Just did a 9 pound load. 

With a correct clutch setting the motor brought the tub up to speed faster , in turn the pump was able to pump the water out faster, and lo and behold the brake started engaging like its supposed too do.

And no motor lugging burning smell from start to Jet Spray finish !! HOLLA I've learned something about my favorite machine after umpteen years! Its a good day.

 

Note the error in Doctrine step 4 - to increase the clutch adjust "clockwise".

 

 

[philr]

Great! Now, time for more videos!

 

[jetcone]

Some quiet time at the old

Poppy !!

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=74VlELvLJTY

 

[jetcone]

Not so quiet time

Rosalie's Zero Suds www.zerosuds.com in the 1-18. 

The squeaking you hear is the "OLD" speed queen front loader spinning !! LOL

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGARWNisPB4

 

[nmassman44]

Thats amazing how much the sound insulation makes a difference in noise coming from the washer. I wish GM had spend the effort and money to quiet these machines down when they were being built. These washers are truly classics and one of a kind too...much like the Philco Ford washers. My WC-6 1-18 is long gone now...long story...but I do miss it at times.

 

[toploader55]

That Commercial...

Is just fantastic.

Shear Genius. I Love it.

And where on earth did you film it ?

Poppy is very quiet. You did end up using the Shag Rug after all right ??? LOL

 

[combo52]

Impressively Quite

Or is your microphone dying, LOL.

Jason and I have just about finished installing the new upgraded insulation package on my 1-18, when you get here around New Years you will be amazed, maybe you should bring your Poppy machine along and we can do a comparison, and then I can upgrade your machine as well.

John L.

 

[philr]

Jon,

You updated it to a pan-type filter?  

 

[scrubflex]

Quieting the Jet-Cone

Too bad there isn't anything the can be used to 'line' the inside of the Jet-Cone agitator and 'muffle-out' the sounds the water make as it's forced through the vents and holes.

 

[a440]

Great Job Jon!

Your machines are so pretty all in a row! Love the different colors together!
Loved the videos. That is one quiet 1-18!
Can I ask you what is the word "Sanitize" for at the rinse part of the Normal Cycle? I never noticed that before.
Also...can't wait to try your Rosalie Detergent. How far along are you on selling it?
B

 

[jetcone]

Thank you all for tuning in !

Eddie thank you for the kudos they are appreciated ! We filmed the commercial right here in my kitchen! Amazing what the camermen can do! It took a whole weekend and I mean a whole! weekend to shoot. 

The Crew was amazing to watch, they handle light like we handle water ! I mean it , they bend it , diffuse it, bounce it do all kinds to things to it to get the right shot.

 

>>>Amazing John that it will take two of you to compete with one of me for sound deadening. 

 

Phil, I don't have the spare parts to convert to a pan filter, I am on the hunt for them because the pan is so much better. That bed of nails is loose too so it clacks in spin- very annoying after so much work put in for the sound deadening.

 

Rosalie's is going to launch next month,we are getting all the raw materials in right now and putting the finishing touches on the filling machine. Robert and I have talked about putting up a link here at AW for those who would like to purchase it. Stay tuned!

 

 

[this post was last edited: 12/22/2014-07:35]

 

[toploader55]

Ha !

I knew it was your kitchen. ( just being a jerk )

Who are the women ? Relatives ? Friends ?

 

[peteski50]

Poppy 1/18!

Hi Jon,
This is a real awsome 1/18 - you did such a great job with the restoration. This is almost just like my aunts poppy set she bought in 74 and she had the basement wall painted poppy to match! Oh what a washer their is no action like JetAction!
Best Wishes,
Peter

 

[ovrphil]

Super quiet and nice graphic pauses in video

I'm impressed - you could easily whisper around that machine when it's running and be heard. It may be normal, but there is a little rattle noise at the end when it was spinning. Was it just vibrating a little against the other machine(s)?

I love the way the 1-18 adds rinse water with circumferential jets. It sounds so quiet even when the top is open, spinning..its creepy quiet. . I too like the placement of your 1-18 in the collection - nice colors.

 

[combo52]

The Silent 1-18 Has Been Verified

Jon C. and Greg N. has been here for most of the week and they finally tested my 1-18 and Jon admitted it was quieter than his. When I get back from Minnesota I will take the front off and reveal some of the secret sound proofing tech nicks that were utilized in making the Quietest 1-18 ever built.

This was a fun challenge and I will use some of these ideas on many future rebuilds.

John L.