Oh, and for me, it's powders all the way. I tried liquids in the 90s sometime and just wan't as satisfied. Also, liquids are more expensive than powders. In fact I remember now when I switched back. Was summer of 1994 wehn I had numerous eye surgeries. I couldn't lift the big jug of detergent on my own. And that was beside the fact I couldn't lean over. So I had to wait for someone to be around to do the laundry--after I sorted. I was allowed to set the controls on the machine for each load. Since hten, I've never had liquids again.