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I was looking at Hoover/Candy machines today, and to be quite honest, I was absolutely horrified!

The build quality of lower end brands today may not be up to much, but Hoover/Candy are quite clearly the worst of the main brands.

The drum weld, especially on the 6kg drums, is so pronounced and sharp you could very easily cut your finger on it (and I am not exaggerating at all!). No wonder it can break apart when it isn't properly welded in the first place! This wasn't just on one machine, it was on all the Hoover/Candy machines in the store, and pretty much exclusively the Hoover/Candy machines. I'm sure this is no good for the clothes being washed in the machines either!

Aside from the drum weld, it's also disgraceful how thin and poorly made the drums are on the whole. The almost non-existant drum paddles, especially on the larger drums, just add to the general feeling the the machines are built as cheaply as they can get away (I thought we'd moved on from non-existent drum paddles when Antonio Merloni went, trust Candy to bring them back!)

The external plastics are also incredibly flimsy, especially on the dispenser, the door hinges don't feel strong enough to hold that oversized door either.

Bearing in mind these machines can sell for well over £400, it's astonishing that they can get away with making them so poorly!

I'm not meaning to just go on a rant about Candy here, I'd never really given them much of a look before, they never interested me and I always knew they weren't that good, but thanks to this thread I gave them all a good look over, and honestly, I'm in shock at how they can get away with selling such poorly made machines, let alone selling them at such extortionate prices!

I'll certainly be recommending an Indesit over any of the other low ends brands to people looking in that price range, Zanussi if they have a slightly bigger budget and Bosch if they want a more mid range machine, a million times better!

Matt
 
The drum seam on my Hoover is not sharp but is uneven. I agree that the plastic is very flimsy, and one of the screws holding the rear plastic trim worked its self loose, causing it to be extremely noisy during the spin.

Something else I don't like about the current Candy/Hoover machines is the flap for the drain cover. You have to pull it down to unscrew the cover and if you pull it down to far the flap's spring dislodges. To make it even worse my model does not have a drainage tube to drain the stump, so when you unscrew the flap it sends washing gushing all over the floor and inside the cabinet. A bowl won't help as it would be in the way of the flap.

I seriously regret buying it, it's one of the worst things I've ever purchased - I won't make that mistake again!!
 
Candy is bad, worse, worst, worst, worst, worst, worst, wors

Solsburian, As far as I know, your Hoover is post 2010, and they deffinatley should blow you off! because there is nothing wrong with your machine! (and can"t be if it is working fine-as it is)

Now you people finding out something somehow, I know their quality isnt so good, but this is beginning to be rediculous.

As I said it shouldn"t happend,that doesn"t mean I am telling you that it is perfectly normal, but in any way they arent as bad as you begun to write today.. (especially for post 2010 machines)

Ok, Candy is worst, there is no worse available, we should probobly call their service even when the machine is working properly, and then report how bad they are when they blow us off,when you touch them they fall apart, thousands of families will be shocked in few days when their machine blow up, there is going to be death cases, with all of that they are not washing anything and nobody will buy them EVER again, and they will probobly go down as a company, and never again come back to the market (as they deserve) <-- Happy now? -.- Only thing what you need to add this story is it happening in reality, not just in someones minds.. and that won"t be soon...
 
No need to take it personally...

and none of what has been said here is made up, certainly everything I said is completely true for all the Candy made machines I have seen and used in recent years.

If Solsburians machine is making a squeaking noise, then it certainly is faulty, and it is not acceptable for Candy to "blow him off", although, it seems poor after sales service is just to be expected from so many companies now.

As for Candy being "the worst", there are machines like Haier and a few other very cheap brands sold under various names which I'd consider "worse", but of the 'major' brands, I'd say Candy is by far the worst, that's my opinion based on my, and many other people's experiences. You like them, and that's fine, but that dosen't mean their shortcomings should be ignored completely, I'm perfectly ready to accept that Miele are not 'perfect'!
Matt
 
Likewise everything I've said has been true. I purchased my Hoover in good faith, knowing fine well it was a Candy and the issues people have had with them in the past.

The annoying thing is that for the same money I could have purchased a Bosch Washer Dryer.
 
Amazed.

Absolutely amazed that Candy can get away with such a halfarsed response. If this were a car manfacturer & safety was involved, they'd be MADE to recall the affected product. Why is this not being treated the same? I hope Trading Standards make them recall every potentially affected machine, because this certainly is not that rare going by how many times it's been reported on here, Which? etc.

Which? is a load of cr*p though tbh. How can they say they don't have enough data for Candy reliability yet make no mention of Hoover's no doubt poor reliability? They must know theyre the same brand! It also amuses me how two models in the same range can have totally different results, even though their programming will be identical. It's for this reason i cancelled my subscription with them.

However, i take slight offence to people being negative about Beko products. Some may not last as long as they should, but their quality appears leagues ahead of Hoover/Candy, Hotpoint/Indesit and all the other random brands like Haier, Haus etc.

It must also be noted that in response to Jon's comment re Italian brands, Zanussi is Italian & are one of the best machines in their price bracket for build & reliability.

Liam
 
zanussi reliable ?!

my zanussi was a heap off s*** it was loud and the door lock was faulty. the inspection cover on the back was made of plastic and overall i was beggining to think if a haier would've lasted longer (resticted my self from buy a haier don't worry) it was turly awful. trading stadards got involved and said it was unsafe for use and the zanussi test lab in milton keans came to pick it up and now i have a beko wme7247s. my hotpoint is still working and the beko is my collection peice.
(i only have 3 dryers and thats it and 2 washers)
ps my other cousin has a cand and its been nothing but trouble one of the paddles has come off and he has constantly changed the fuse in the plug it told him to get a beko or a samsung.
 
**update

Today I looked at welds in my GrandOPlus and GO510, I did my best to cut my finger really, then I took a weak cloth and literally tried to ripped it.. both didn"t work.. (I will film and upload it if you want)

Solsburian, can is your Hoover washing and drying?

I know you guys can sometimes see I got it personally, and that I got so "live" in it.. just saying that because of my personal experience from 2008.. maybe some of you know this story..
In our 2nd flat, old Gorenje washing machine broke, and it was time to buy new.. I was reading everything you guys said about Candy, and I literally got on with it, when we were in the store, I said my parents that it is going to fall apart within a year, that it is simply sh**. They just said me that they will buy Candy, because our 3 friends bought Candy washing machines in 2006 and were satisfied.. We bought GO510.. and I was honestly sad.. all because I belived posts like this...
That was december 2008, in December 2010 GO510 had her 2nd birthday, so 2 years of working-still perfect, and it is working and washing very good, and belive it or not, much more than GrandOPlus, because I donated to wash all the laundry for kindergarten where I used to go, and all laundry from them goes in GO510 (including toys).. so at least 7 times a week, if I wash all our laundry in my other washer.
So, I really wasn"t positive to Candy, but would you all just stand there and wach such posts if you had the same experience? + you have alot of friends with Candy"s (here is Candy number 2 most sold brand in the country) all satisfied.. for example our friend that has a WasherDryer CLD135, and a baby, dries every load in it.. so it basicly means every day wash and dry... it is from 2006, and all that they had to do is regular maintenance of fluff cleaning from pipes..

It"s just that your and my experience don"t match at all, and it seems we both can"t figure that out! :P
 
Bad washers aren't bad because every single machine of that brand is bad, but because an above average of machines is having problems. It may well be that a lot of people are very happy with their Hoover or Candy. And it may well be that your machine becomes a classic. My mother thinks Candy are the worst machines ever made. Her 1965 Candy was broken beyond repair within one year. Still you see quite a lot of classic Candy's around. My mother's bad experience doesn't say a thing about the quality and the saved machines don't either. It's the figures that count. And these figures apparently count very bad for Hoover/Candy. After all, we haven't seen any exploded Zanussi, Bosch or Miele machines.
 
Digressions

This is a quite interesting thread, but please forgive me for some “out of thread” thinking…

1) Products are not made to “work”, they are made to be sold: food is not required to be nutritious, it is required to compel the customer to buy it; which can be achieved with a nice packaging and a good advertising campaign. Taste and nutritional characteristics are irrelevant: synthetic flavours, salt, sugars and fats do miracles. Another example? Think of Ecover: the least-ecological product ever seen, but the company has built an “irrationally ecological” image for their products; and it worked great! Curiously enough, Ecover products are not “Ecolabel” (“Ecolabel” is an European Union label awarding products with a low impact on the environment) aren’t they supposed to be so much ecological? so much natural? so much politically correct? I just wonder…

2) In my opinion, Candy are excellent products, simply because they are sold widely and the Fumagalli company is growing strong; Candy took over Hoover, and this demontrates that there are more “average customers” wanting a Candy than a Hoover; whether they are happy after the purchase is absolutely irrelevant: the only important thing is that they buy and pay (no: customer’s fidelity is not important any more)

3) If our friend nrones is happy with his Candy and likes it, I simply wish him any happyness and no trouble; and I congratulate him for having choosen the right product for him, which is by definition a “good product” for him. No: I would never buy a Candy, simply because I believe that other products fit better my needs, which can be stupid and unreasonable needs, but they are my needs, exactly as nrones’ ones

4) What does it mean “Candy stuff is s#|t”? They do not wash well? How do you define “washing well”? (no, please, be kind: do not mention “Which?” or “Consumer Report”, OK?) On this site we say and repeat that the “average customer” is unable to wash properly: how can ever they judge the washing abilities of washing machines? Candy products do not last long? When I was at the university, I was thought that “It does not make any sense to design a washing machine lasting twenty years: after two years the customer will want to replace it because he likes the colour of the new models”

5) Before introducing the “Margherita” series of washing machines, Ariston (today Horpoint-Ariston, brand of the Indesit Group) commissioned a nation-wide poll in Italy; the question was “What is the most important thing in a washing machine?” Italians answered “It must look nice”; OK, OK: we are Italians… however today’s Hotpoint non-Aqualtis machines are still based on the “Margherita” aesthetics

6) Is it easier to build an expensive Mìele or a cheap Candy? Which of the two offers more for the price? Yes, the iron-cast counterweights of the Miele are so cool, so old-fashioned… “Oh les beaux jours”… “Happy days”… (No, not Richie Cunningham: I mean Samuel Beckett) But is it important for me? is it worth my money? The answer is subjective, but it is not possible to demonstrate that concrete counterweights are intrinsically “worse” that cast-iron ones. And have you ever heard that “The price of the product is not determined by its value, but by the power of purchase of the social group it is destined to”?

7) Sometimes things are quite different than the way we would like them. Someone wrote in another thread “E'lux is pushing AEG as a premium brand there (cause in EU nobody trust them anymore)”. I am sorry to say it, but this is simply wrong and naïve: Electrolux intentionally and scientifically “downgraded” the AEG brand. And made lots of money. Does anybody here remember the bankrupt of the AEG-Telefunken group? Does anybody here knows that in year 1970, in Italy, an Electrolux vacuum cleaner (model Z320) costed a fortune? Today in UK Electrolux vacuum cleaners are cheap and low quality. Curiously enough, the best Electrolux vacuum cleaner is sold under the brand AEG in some countries (including UK) and under the brand Electrolux in other coutntries. But it is sold in both cases.

8) If Candy is the worst washing machine brand because they explode, what about Toyota cars? (Well, Lexus have been affected as well…). Toyota made a huge recall? Maybe because they were forced to? Maybe because their brand advertising strategy is based on reliability? Have Candy washing machines ever been advertised as sturdy and durable? Is the percentage of defective Toyota cars higher or lower than that of defective Candy washing machines?

9) “This brand is the best/worst because I had one and it lasted long/short”. Are we kidding? Do we really want to express a judgement based on a single item out of millions and millions produced? I stop here because this is a public forum but, please, think of being judged on the basis of someone else sharing your birthplace, or the colour of your eyes or…
 
foraloysius, donprohel -- both BRAVO!

Floralyosis is right.. but there is a fact that I personally do not see that more people is rather unsatisfied. My friends are satisfied, and happy, buying Candy appliance all over again, every appliance in their home, not just washer... User revews even in UK you can see a lot of reviews that they bought Candy again after their previous lasted 12 years, 6 years (I know you can say 6 years is too low, but some people said Candy lasts 6 months!).

Maybe it"s because of habits.. Candy washers design people from Italy.. that is an Eastern country.. and I live in Serbia, and I know very wall that habits in and all round mine country are surely different than ones in Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Scandinavian countries,Switzerland, UK (and maybe France)..
Do you know that we can still today buy on our market a 600rpm Candy or Indesit or Bosch aswell?
Do you know that people here mostly wash their whites at 90 with pre-wash?
Most people don"t have tumble dryers, so they don"t care.. average of our market is 800rpm, 1200 is counted as fast, you can find 1400rarely, and there is NO machine with 1600rpm.. To be honest it is ridiculous to me to see 1600rpm Candy or Indesit.. it is simply because I know that it is only FORCE.. do you know that in Italy you can not buy a 1600 Candy or Hoover, and of 42 models existing there is 4-5 1400rpm washers.. all others are from 600-1200.
So Candy basicly arranged everything on their quality, materials etc... that 1200rpm is "fast-exclusive"--- nowhere exploded machine with 1200rpm or less.. just some 1400, and most of them were 1600.

Now just to make it short:
Eastern - Whites 90 (sometimes 60), low spin speeds 600-800 average (and people even decrease often because of creasing, or thinking that high spin (that is usually 800rpm) might damage clothes), Darks 30-40 synthtetic or delicate cycle often pressing water+ options
Western - Everything at QUICK 40 or 30 (we all know that is destroying the machine), and always 1400-1600 spin on EVERY wash!

Maybe that is why here Candy"s are going just fine (and being sold very well) here, and at your places not so well.. but you can anyway read much more good than bad reviews from users (comet website, appliances-online.com, reevoo.com), and NO there is a lot of people commenting about their 1-2 years old washers, not just when they are brand new.

Also I might expect question "why are they on the western market then?" - They have every right to try, they should have not made that mistake with few machines and overpressed drum, but it seems that they are going pretty well, so why shouldn"t they sell? Anyway, at the end of the day, everything (with every brand) ends up on money..
 
donprohel,

You point of view is more a point of view from the manufacturer. But it's not a very wise one. Consumers don't take such things for a long time, they only buy a bad machine once. If a machine bites the dust too early they are not going to stay with that company. Merloni sure can testify for that. And the opposite is proven by Miele. Make a good product and your customers will stay with you.

nrones,

It's not only a matter of east and west, but also of south and north. Low spin machines are still sold in Italy and Spain. Rex in Italy (Zanussi) still has an 800rpm model in their range. Zanussi in the Netherland's basic model is 1200rpm

That said, I think we overhere in the Netherlands got the machines with the highest spin speeds first and for the lowest prices. At the time that Bosch still sold 800rpm toploaders in Germany in the Netherlands the BOL model was 1000rpm
 
At the end of the day

many people may be happy with their Candy products, and good for them, but the facts are they have a higher repair record than any of the other main brands.

Now, why on Earth, if i had £400 to spend on a washer, would I buy a brand I know has a higher repair record? It would make no sense at all!

I don't care about the company itself (and they don't care about me, or you, or anyone) all that any manufactuer from Haier to Miele is interested in is making money. I'm interested purely in the products they make, and Candy products have proven themselves to be at the lower end of the market in terms of quality and reliability time and time again.

Matt
 
Floralyosis,

Well, I know I didn't wrote some sides of the earth correctly. But I tried to focus on much bigger needs in places where most bad comment are comming from :)

I can't agree that donprohel is wrong, because (as you know) Candy, and Merloni are much more sold than Miele, and people might not want so much their washer to last 20 years, I think that for most of them 6-7 years is fine (and most Candy and Merloni are capable of lasting that long).. I am telling you that, because I saw a bunch of reviews like ''our 6.5 year old Hotpoint broke, we bought Hotpoint again now, and we are very sattisfied''. Ofcourse there are people who don't think like that and buy more expencive machine to have it for long.
But anyway, again people don't think like we doo. They simply say I want big load, or some performance, and yes they want it to look good, I know a lot of people that don't even now what brand their washer is.. they just don't care about it at all..
 
If a cheap washer breaks down after 60.5 years some people might think they got something good for the little money they spent. But if it breaks down after 1 or 2 years people think quite different. And I know that because I read a lot (and I mean a lot!!!) reviews about washers.

BTW, it's foraloysius (for aloysius), not floralyosis. ;-)
 
60.5 years xD

I think you might wanted to say 6.5 years.. no matter how much you pay 60.5 years you went good! :D
I am just not sure that people think like that, because if they did, Candy or Indesit surely wouldn"t be sold as they are now. I know they are not so much sold in germany, or netherlands, but where I live, as I said they are 2nd most sold, just after gorenje.. similar in countries arround, and it is in UK maybe sold just under Beko, and Hotpoint. While Bosch/Siemens, Miele are not best sellers anywhere (maybe in germany only)...
Also I know that some people just don"t want to give, for say, 300pounds, so they only have some washers in the range, and for example (if so unlucky) after 2 years of Candy, they buy Indesit, after 2 years Beko, and then they say maybe they changed something in their technology in past 4 years, and buy it...
but we reply to each other kilometer long posts, knowing that it will all end up on money with both customers and manufacturers, and very often when money comes in there, everything logic come out..
 
Lost for words

There are so many things I'd like to say after reading this thread... but at the moment I think I'll just stick to my own experience with Candy appliances.

I don't have any really recent experience with GrandO and Vision machines as I haven't yet deemed appropriate replacing my current perfectly working 2004 Candy-Hoover Nextra, however I'm appalled by the vitriol contained in this page... in all honestly I just see it as a massive chip on some1's shoulder! Still, I would be very surprised and very disappointed if half of it was true. Clearly, the whole thing is being inflated measurelessly; they can't even produce the right pictures in some of their published articles... it proves to me lack of accuracy and seriousness. These exploding washers are related to a single faulty component which accidentally went overlooked during the manufacturing process and not to the imaginary and fictitious fact that Candy is low quality or is worst or it has a poor reputation. It's manifested mainly in Germany where Candy has taken appropriate measures, and it was bound to happen again as those faulty components might have shipped to other countries and they did... but long before it even started to happen in the UK (I remember reading an article about this on "Which?" after the German lab findings), Candy was advising customers to get in touch with them if they suspected to own one of the affected machines as they relevance in the UK was to low on not worth a recall.

I believe that Candy appliances are the best value for money 1 can get offering reliability, performance and the least economical impact for some1's wallet (running costs) and the environment, given the fact that they manage to deliver great performance still optimising the consumption of resources. Some people on here are mentioning consumer reports, reliability records and such like trying to draw their attention only to the negative ones... but what about the good ones? There are many of them... and in some sites Hoover models get top marks sitting just below Miele (which we all know as being the queen of appliances here in Europe) and if (as someone suggested) you read reviews thoroughly you would know it (still, reviews are not the answer by all means, as most angry reviews come from ppl who had negative experiences, the ones with good experiences often don't even bother to review an item). By contrast, "Which? Magazine" had "below average" reliability records for Hoover up to a couple of months ago and "average" for Candy... now they're saying that they haven't got enough data for the latter... I'm not aware of the reasons as I also found myself inclined not to continue with my subscription with them for a while!

I actually hated Candy when I was a little boy as my auntie had her Candy washing machine (from the 70's) parked in our garage as she was moving house and when she got the machine back and found out that it was broken, she blamed me for having played with it while it was at my parent's place. My parents replaced their old Zerowatt front loader in 1988 with another Zerowatt, but this time it was Candy made (Zerowatt had been bought out by Candy in 1985) and in all honesty it was a world of difference from the previous one, with his reliability, sturdiness, stability and having a wide selection of cylces and options. I am also stunned by the RESPONSABILITY this firm assumes towards the consumer as for the fact that I can still easily obtain spare parts for this 23 year old washer!

I have grown even more enthusiastic about Candy brands since I bought my Candy dishwasher in 2003 as it has ever since been working hard and delivering brilliant results everytime (although I wouldn't mind a better drying performance... as it's rated "B" for drying), it never had breakdowns, although I've seen the occasional spot of rust recently in the inner basket which I remedied myself with a bit of enamel paint. Hoover Nextra was next in line and a must for me to fall upon the Candy group once more... and that is what makes me feel so strongly about the reasonable quality of this brand. Never mind the presence of multiple cycles and options (which is still rather important to me), what counts is the fact that it's renewed my wardrobe by simply washing clothes, the fact that it's halved my electricity and water bills, the fact that it's been a tireless workhorse ever since it put its bearings into my house and it's never had any issues or repairs. All in all, they are not the best quality products (otherwise they'll be called "Miele") but they do what they supposed to do for a reasonable number of years reducing the chore related headaches to a minimum... and all at a reasonable price. I am sure most of my thoughts can be applied on lots of other brands too out there, including Indesit-Hotpoint… but that it’s not my call :-P
 
Miele are not best sellers

Well actually I don't know how it is at the moment but for many years Miele was the best sold washing machine in the Netherlands. AEG was second IIRC, although there was also a time that they had about the same market share in the Netherlands, both 20%. This was when AEG was still AEG. Two brands that had 40% of the market, the rest was left to all the other brands.
 
foraloysius, I am shocked!

Just as I said.. like 2 whole different worlds. Here most sold are Candy, Indesit and Bosch (always going on 3rd - 4th place)..

Now for serbia: (all informations are from a big store that I called for all information - they know me personally because they were amazed with my interest, so they were happy to answer):
Gorenje and Candy are togeather having more/less 70% of the market (depending on year). In this 70% gorenje has around 40% because it is a "domestic" brand, and when it was all Yugoslavia 40 years ago, only Gorenje machines could be bought, and Candy had like a better status and their macines could be sold on their name), but there were in Yugoslavia "domestic companies" that made foregin machines (Zannusi-Koncar ; Indesit-Obod...)(there was some kind of restricton, for protecting domestic factories I think) but they all went down in the 90s (war), and today, when people see Indesit, or Zanussi, it is a complete new brand. A lot of them don"t even know what Miele is, because it is not sold anywhere except in their "showroom". So people in stores told me that people buy Gorenje and Candy because of history and previous experience, also they are only ones that left on the market under their name.

Whirlpool and Beko are like second group, but they are sold less, and then Bosch.
Someone told me that Miele last year sold 7 washing machines here xD
 
@ Haxisfan

I don't think there's any exaggeration at all and their response for UK customers is not acceptable. It would be different if was something less serious as faulty soap draw etc. but this is quite something else.

I'm sure the Candy apologists would think differently if it happened to them.

Also, any environmental credentials a machine has in running costs could easily be negated by the environmental impact of scrapping it prematurely and the financial impact of having to buy a new machine every 5-6 years.That of course not only applies to Candy/Hoover but other low end manufacturers as well.
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solsburian?

Did you called Hoover service?
and asking again, Is your HOOVER washing and drying?
 
P.S

--- I'm sure the Candy apologists would think differently if it happened to them. ---

Do you think we love torturing ourselves?
I was the one that told exact same things about Indesit, that I am telling for Candy right now. But then I got Hotpoint Aqualtis, that gave me bad experience, and broke after 8 months, and I didn"t like their programmes at all. Do you see me telling that Indesit is good now? NO.

Yes, I might have said, the all fact is that we don"t see ANY of this in reality with US, or people around us. As I said, I have lot"s of friends with Candy washers (half of mates from my class had Candy) and I know that they are are at least "non-unhappy", but some of them are telling good things, and buying them over and over again. And I will buy them all over again, if they serve me as they did.
If my Candy GrandO Plus broke in few months, I would deffinatley NOT tell a single good thing about that. Only the thing that is "apart" from quality are programmes and washing ability. Aqualtis was bad in that too, but Candy is doing it"s job fine.
 
--- Yes I did, they are coming out on Tuesday, so much for blowing me off! It is still washing and drying as well. ---

Well, that is opposite from your story, not mine! YOU said that their service is horrible, and all that.. I just thought that if it is washing and drying fine, why call the service?

What is wrong with it, how that problem looks/sound? I didn"t understood well from previous posts...
 
2004 Candy-Hoover Nextra

Will actually be quite a lot better made than the machines they produce today if you ask me.

I'll repeat again that nothing that has been said here is fictional at all. People haven't just suddenly decided Candy machines are poor quality because of this drum weld scandal, we've known it for decades, this just adds to the reasons why (for me) a Candy made product isn't even considered when I purchase appliances.

@nrones whether it still washes and dries, if it is making a squeaking noise at such a young age, then it is faulty, why should anyone put up with that?

Matt
 
>>If my Candy GrandO Plus broke in few months, I would deffinatley NOT tell a single good thing about that

Well unfortunately I'm having that experience with my machine, hence my not so positive view of Hoover/Candy. Downplaying or discrediting my concerns about my appliance will not change anything.

Funnily enough, I think Indesit are probably worse then Candy, I have seen numerous Indesit Machines in showrooms that have holes between the plastic fascias and metal work and of course they are notorious for their poor PSB’s.

It may not be nice reading negative things about a brand you like, but the fact of the matter is that their machines are exploding and they are not doing enough across here to resolve the situation or alleviate any concerns. Furthermore, comparison wise, their quality is not as good as other brands. That of course also apples to Indesit/Hotpoint as well.
 
@hoover1100

I like the look of the Nextas (and the Hoover Six range). Assuming the Nextra drum was the same as the discontinued built-in Candy I saw in Homebase, it's drum is probably thicker then the current generation and the seam is not welded. One of their Nextra Washer Dryers also scored higher then their current models on Which as well.

Looking around, Zerowatt and Vyatka sell machines that use the Hoover Six facia, cabinet and appear to use the old style drum as well.
 
Nextra and Six range

Were certainly a lot better made than todays Candy, and are the same as their intergrated machines as far as I can tell.

My Mum had a 2003 Hoover performa (a Hoover Six with a smaller drum) After a year and 3 months it had to have the PCB replaced, then about a year later the replacement PCB was failing too.

By 2006 the machine had been replaced, they just aren't made to last sadly.

Matt
 
Didn"t wanted to make a new trhread, so I ask you here

Well.. like a non-Candy post.
It seems really that I don"t know how to use my Whirlpool tumble dryer that is TIMED one... clothes are always smelling abit toasty, and smell of softener is often totally gone. It"s a vented one (AWZ 3303)
Can you help me, tell me how to use it, or tell me how you use your timed tumble dryer?
 

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