pre rinsing dishes

[oxydolfan1]

"Looks like they forgot the eye of newt and hind leg of frog!"

I think this must be their non-bio formula....

(ducks and runs)

 

[MrX]

That'd be in "new Persil Eye of Newt"

 

[logixx]

Yes, I'd say Siemens is a *little* more TOL than Bosch - although one can buy most of their products with either BOSCH or SIEMENS written on it. Only Bosch has the Logixx 9 washer (aka Nexxt) available, though.

BSH can definitely compete with Electrolux and Whirlpool when it comes to the number of different brands they all produce.

The Siemens shown above is one of their Premium models. Retails for around 1200 € / $1500. Although you can get it for 60% off, if you do a little google search. )

 

[appnut]

Now Venus, Den Mother, I am proud of you that you are getting better at it. But, ahem, notice the stellar performance out of that Bosch cousin Mr. Siemens. I bet if you used the Power Scrub Plus (the most Intensive) cycle, you'd obtain similar results!!!

And Larence, I will agree with you. In facdt, I own't even consider any dishes unless they are dishwasher rackable withoout hogging space. I've even turned down a set or two over the years.

 

[laundromat]

I NEVER PRE RINSE ANYTHING!I have a 2004 GE Triton tall tub dishwasher.It has the "Perona"hard food disposer built in and 100%water filtration in the mechanism.I have washed Lasagna coated casseroles,skillets with cooked on egg yolk,melted cheese,dried egg yolk,and grease.I use the Electrosol tablets and Jet Dry liquid.I program the Sani cycle or the extra hot wash and everything comes out sparkling.No food particles anywhere.The KitchenAid model that was here originaly would leave ground up food partcle deposits on my coffee cub and wine glass feet.I highly recomend the TallTubs by GE to anyone replacing their old models.

 

[oxydolfan1]

"I own't even consider any dishes unless they are dishwasher rackable withoout hogging space...."

OMG....I'm getting a new set of Corelle "Pretty Pink" (the square dishes) and never once thought of how they'd stack in the dishwasher....

Good save, appnut. I'll buy one out of open stock first....

 

[~sudsshane]

I'm learning to like my Bosch~

2 yrs ago we bought a Bosch dishwasher. Top of the line,all the bells and whistles. A few months back,we had to replace the water pump.I thought that was odd given the dishwasher was only 2 years old. We haven't had any problems since. I was using Cascade Gel packs in the Bosch and wasn't all the happy with the cleaning results.Retromom suggested Electrasol and I must say I am pleased as punch with the results.

 

[exploder3211]

I am not a huge Bosch fan my self and *if* i had to replace my Kemo' TT, i would either replace it with a similar one or a GE TT... I might consider a Bosch if the price was right, but i dunno... ALthough i would look on ebay first, as i bought my last one on there for $195

 

[sudsmaster]

I have some 1 qt. plastic cylindrical (polypro) storage containers that I use for storing leftovers.

They are great, with tight fitting lids. However the handles up by the lid catch a lot of water when the containers are upside down.

My solution was to get out the cordless drill and drill two 1/8" holes in each handle. The result is no pooling of water there when the dw is done.

I would imagine the same thing could be done for coffeemaker carafes with hollow plastic handles.

 

[exploder3211]

I dunno... To think of drillig a hole in such close proximity to such a fragile thing

 

[MrX]

P&G's "Fairy Active Bursts" seem to be the same/very similar to P&G's Cascade liquid pouches in the US. You've "With the power of Dawn" we have "with the power of Fairy" ... I'd say it's the same product.

Tried them in our Bosch and the dishes came out sticky! although they looked quite clean. They definitely don't seem to play well with that machine anyway. I wonder if they could actually clog / damage the pump i.e. leaving a sticky residue in there? It could build up over time.

I normally use Finish (Reckitt Benckiser - similar to Electrasol, if not the same product) or Unilever's Sun tablets both of which give excellent results everytime.

P&G's quite far behind in terms of Dishwasher products here I think. In general Reckitt-Benckiser and Unilever have had far more successful products on the market for much longer. Fairy is a P&G brand of washing-up liquid (for manual dishwashing) and is *the* defacto standard in the UK/Ireland for washing manually, however, they've really never managed to make the jump to automatic dishwashing for some reason.

I've tried Ecover's dishwasher tablets and they actually do an excellent job. I was pleasantly suprised as I didn't expect them do perform as well.

 

[MrX]

Here's Fairy Active burst packaging ..

 

[chachp]

I use Cascade Complete...

in my Bosch dishwasher but if Venus says that Electrasol is the best then that's good enough for me. My next box will be Electrasol!!

 

[oxydolfan1]

I believe you are correct re: Fairy Active vs. Cascade w/Dawn...

In a similar way, Fairy Liquid does correspond to our Dawn, in terms of product placement....if I am not mistaken, it is still the leading dish liquid in the States, followed by Palmolive.

I'm sure the actual products differ chemically, as different countries have differing water conditions and cleaning needs.

Ecover products run the gamut here, but are now easier to find then before. I like their limescale remover (mind you, I have soft water), and their floor soap beats our Murphy's Oil Soap by a mile....again, their products tend to be more expensive here.

 

[petek]

Was Dawn always the leading detergent. I would have thought Palmolive was harkening back to the days of Madge "you're soaking it" LOL
It's only in the last few years that I've seen so many Dawn commercials and variants while Palmolive doesn't seem to advertise on tv as much?

I much prefer Electrasol tabs (without the powerball) over Cascade. The only thing I don't like about them is having to remove that wrapper on each tab.

 

[MrX]

I don't know that the product differ all that much to be honest. The water conditions in any country vary enormously from region to region. It's all to do with rock type in a particular area.

e.g. in England the water quality varies enormously between the regions.

Ireland's water's mostly very soft, with the exceptions of a few limestone areas where you can be prone to limescale problems.

In the USA, the east coast's lucky in so far as the water's not too hard in most places with a large population but there are vast swathes of the US with pretty hard water.

 

[exploder3211]

I have tasted palmolive on several occasions by accident:

YUCKKKKKKKK

Dawn tastes a little better and Ajax w/grapefruit is so so...

Ok ask if you must

 

[MrX]

Not quite so detailed - but still shows what's going on

Island of Britain : Hardwater

 

[agiflow]

I am using Cascade w/shine shield,...seems to be much better than the last batch of Electrosol i had,...don't know if the last box was old powder or what. Coffee mugs would not come clean.

I used to like Dawn before they watered it down. Palmolive is what i use now.

 

[maytagbear]

I've tasted Dawn by

acccident, too, during some "heavy duty" cleanup after a very interesting evening.

Lawence/Maytagbear