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Hi,
First of all, I"m a pretty new member here, and I hadn"t introduced my self to you. I am Dex, and I come from Belgrade, Serbia. I have 3 washing machines (Candy GO4 1274 LH, Candy GO 510, Gorenje WA583), dishwasher (Siemens SE23200), and a tumble dryer (Whirlpool AWZ3303). As some of you might have noticed, my favourite is Candy ;)

Well, what I wanted to ask you in this thread is daily use of your washers!
Here is an example of my daily programmes and options:

Towels - cottons 60, medium soil, water+ (or 40, but I select superwash, and high soil)

Darks - Synthtetics 40 medium/low soil, (options depending on load, but I doo superwash when I want it to be quick, and stil good washed). But when I"m drying in the dryer, then I doo cottons 40, no options (because max on Synth"s is just 800, and on cottons 1200)

Underwear - Cottons 90, high soil, prewash, water plus (usually half load, so Candy reduces the time to 1h45m ;)

All the programmes I said are for Candy GO4 1274 LH (see the pic.), because it has all the options that GO510, and Gorenje have. And when I say low/medium/high soil I am not selecting any option like superwash or short, As you know Candy have time manager where you can select 3 levels of soiling/time.
Also it has KG mode that is automaticly reducing time when there"s less laundry in the machine.

The dryer:
Well, I am mostls doing 4-5 kg loads, so the dryer takes 80-90minutes to dry that.. Is that too much?

Visit my YouTube channel to see vids

www.youtube.com/nrones

cheers,
Dex

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Towels/Bedding - Cottons 60 with rinse+ ( 4 rinses )

Whites - Cottons 60 with normal rinse (3 ) and pre wash

Colours - Cottons 50 with normal rinse

Darks - Duvet 40 with normal rinse (2 ) and 1000rpm

Delicates - Delicate 30 with normal rinse (2) and 800rpm

Shirts on Quick 30 at 40 with intensive , rinse++ (4) and anti crease ( 800 rpm for 30 seconds + 5 min anti crease tumbles )

And cleaning stuff on the Quick 30 with normal settings ( 30ºC , 800rpm and 2 rinses )

The machine I have is on the pic below

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on my washer (aeg lavamat 76850) I use:

- Towels: cottons 60° with option short depending on the load size
- Dark and coloured clothes: cottons or synthetics, when the load goes into the dryer then I chose cotton because it spins @ 1600 rpm.
- Bedding: cottons 60°
- very dirty towels on cottons 95° or hygiene
- delicates on delicates 30°

on my dryer (aeg lavatherm 59840) I use:

- for towels and beddings: cottons intensive dry
- for normal clothes: mix cupboard dry (MAX dry setting)

pic of machine below:

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For me (at present)

Towels and bed sheets- Cotton 60

Whites/lights- Cotton 40

Coloureds/Darks- Cotton 40

Jeans- Quick wash or Cotton 40 (depending on degree of soiling)

Delicates- Sythetics 40 or the Wool programme depending on what they are made of.

Matt
 
i have an aqualtis (new version)

colourfast darks, i used cotton coloured or the jeans cycle on a cold wash 800 to 1200rpm

normal load cotton & synthetics 30 to 40 degrees (depend on soil level) 800 to 1200rpm

bedding & towels, cotton cycle or bed & bath cycle 40 to 90degrees with steam hygiene option depending on the colour and fabric and soil level and size of the load 1200 to 1600rpm

whites on cotton 60 to 90 degrees 1200 to 1600rpm

special whites or coloureds with special designer prints 40degrees synthetics or silk cycle 600 to 800rpm

underwear i use 40 degrees cotton with steam hygiene 1600rpm
 
Cool

You said me what I wanted to see :D :D
Now, Can you tell me please what programmes would you use if you had my GrandOPlus?
*but please no answers like "I would never have a Candy, so I won"t talk about progs"

Thanks alot indeed :D
 
Flashy Grando...

Dex, you'd better post us a close up of the controls if you want us to play fantasy wash cycles!

I'm currently with my parents who have the rather basic cousin to the top-end Candy Grando: a Hoover Optima OPH616 (9 months troube free for those ready to scorn modern Hoovers!). Mum only uses the quick cycles:

44 for whites and lights
29 for darks and delicates
59 for towels

It seems to be working out well enough; being a retired couple they're not large generators of dirty laundry.

If I stick around another couple of days I might get to have a play with the machine. I'm interested to find out:

1 how long the cottons cycles are (suspect pushing 3 hours!)
2 what sort of cycle Sports is (long, cool and gentle: has potential for thorough washing of darks?)
3 how Wool cycle performs (seen a video of the new Hoover Dynamic doing wool: looks far too gentle to be of any use at all!)

I don't suppose I'll actually get to find out but you never know...

Going back to fantasy cycles, give me the following and I'd pick it:

25 minutes' wash (option for longer and shorter)
3 generous rinses
Short-ish spin option (so mixed loads don't crease)
Delicate/Wool option
Fully variable temp control

Think that covers it!
 
Some modern Hoover scorn:

After 2-3 months of having our Hoover washer dryer it's drum is starting to make a ratcheting noise. It's still useless at balancing as well.

…and for some more Candy bashing:

I don’t know why Candy just don’t pull their brand from the UK and concentrate on Hoover – I wonder what a Hoover Aquamatic would look like?!?

That’s better!!

@ SuperElectronic – here is some insights:
1. For our Machine (WDYNS 654D) the Cottons (plus mandatory prewash) cycle times are 1:42/2:02/2:52 depending on selected cycle length. The KG mode will reduce these times as necessary, but using “Sensitive Care” will add approximately 20 minutes on to the cycle time.

2. For the sports cycle, we have only ever used it once and there was noting particularly special about it, but it did have a slightly deeper water level.

3. The wool cycle is very gentile, but it does work, it managed to remove dried in tikka masala sauce from a woollen jumper.
 
close up picture and reply

I think you can see all the controls now, but if you don"t tell me, I will take a pic myself ;)

My experiences with Candy"s are very good! My family and friends are having Candys all over, and most of them are happy.
Specially they are happy with washer/dryers. but that"s my side of the story, and I respect others ;)

@superelectronic
What are your experiences with Hoover? hadn"t understood well.. good or bad?

@solsburian
Why are you so unhappy with your WD? If it"s doing it"s job and still hadn"t broke don"t understand why.. some sounds from the drum aren"t that important :P Anyway what about drying cycles? are you satisfied?
Candy basicly pulled out their products from UK, and they are very focused on Hoover, they just left few basic models, just to leave name, and for ones that used to have Candy, and buy it over and over (yes it happends, read few reviews ;))

and yes.. what program should I use to eliminate creasing? Hadn"t tried anything, but first I want you to tell me :P

cheers,
Dex

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Too many symbols!

Well thanks for the close-up, Dex. Think we might need a key for the symbols, though! Seems like a nice washer anyway...have been following your videos given my soft spot for Candy!

I don't have much experience with Hoover; can't make a call either way really. I have a lot of respect for the innovation they put into their products but feel it's often let down by poor quality components.

Our first family washer was a re-badged Candy from 1976 ish and lasted til 1985; a Candy replaced it but only lasted 18 months; Mother swore she'd never buy Candy again (I have not mentioned the Candy connection with the new Hoover).

Solsburian: thanks for the prog synopsis! Sorry to hear the new Hoover WD hasn't been your best purchase. Maybe it will bed in somehow...fingers crossed!

Minimum creasing? Synthetics at 30C would be my bet; the cool temp cuts the risk of heat shock and reduces creasing caused by post-wash spin. Press easy iron if you're not going to be there when it finishes (it's rinse hold, isn't it?). 800 spin at the end shouldn't give much cause for concern if short. If anything needs more of a spin, take it out, shake and use separate spin. IMPORTANT: do not overload! That's my recipe anyway!

Cheers

Alex
 
ahh symbols! :D

I much more prefer symbols than washers with everything written on it.. but maybe it"s because I never used (and we never had on this market) a washer without symbols. Every washer except Miele and some Bosch are having symbols, and I really understand them all :P
If you don"t understand, at the end of the video (in the link) is everything explained about controls and display ;)

Well, I wouldn"t ask you if less ironing was usable option.. It does everything great in the wash.. it gradually cools down the water (shuttle rinse - take water, then pump out abit, and take again - like on old Mieles :P), it doesn"t doo any intermit spin... but final spin too!! It does only a burst, and that"s it, but I can select synthtetics 30 with rinse hold :) will try it.
And also, we all put our clothes in a laundry basketand just put clothes inthere, so there they get creased.. will sth like you said remoove creases, or just wont make them (so, I should maybe fold down my shirts somewhere until they get washed)?
 
My WD does wash and dry well, I'll give it that but the build quality seems so poor, especially compared to my Parents Hotpoint WT540. It is also excessively rattly when it spins, we tend to leave the kitchen when its spins for fear of it exploding lol. The main reason why we got it was for its slim depth (44cm) but that may be part of the part of the problem – perhaps there is not enough space inside for the drum to move around.

We got an extra two years labour warranty so that should keep us tied over until we get a new Kitchen, then we will be getting a Miele.
 
My Candy is slim too!

My Candy is slim too.. sadly we don"t have enough space in the bathroom, so all my machines were slim.
Don"t worry about cosmetic problems, I know exactly what are you talking about. Look how detergent draw is positioned on the close up picture ;) Such things in few 4 months drove me crazy, but then I just stopped thinking about it when I realized it doesn"t matter.. it washes great, remooves every single stain, and clothes are always fresh and well spinned, ready for the dryer, and those small looking issues you realise when you come closer to machine, trying to find imperfection, if you look at it generally it looks fine ;) so just relax, and enjoy it"s wash/dry programmes :D

I know that there are machines looking alot stronger, my Aqualtis looked alot stronger than GrandOPlus, and it broke after 8 months, so we gave it back. I know it looks that between Hotpoint and Candy, Candy is going to break first, but after my experience, I wouldn"t say so ;)
 
My main concern is that the door catch may not align properly with the lock and may damage it in the long term; but I suppose the warranty will take care of it if its a issue!

We are off to my partners parents for a late Christmas dinner in rural Northumberland and I've left it washing the bedding on a 60 degree coloured cycle on maximum time, sensitive care (cycle time about 3:30) and set it to dry on sensor set to extra dry. I'll see how well its done when we get back!
 
Cottons Universal or Minimum Iron depending what's in the load... will (rarely) use Woollens handwash and Cottons Hygiene as and when suits. But most of the stuff will go on Cottons Universal (Universal means suitable for all, after all), and only Minimum Iron if there is something synthetic in the load.

I don't bother with the shirts or jeans cycles... everything is fine mixed together just sorted by colour - though I will seperate my colours into "rough" and "nice" loads... i.e. the rough load will have joggers/jeans/hoodies/underwear/scruffy t shirts etc, where the "nice" loads will have my nice clothes in and gets done with colour care deoderant. Shirts, jeans etc don't crease even after a 1600 spin as long as they are hung up and shaken out promptly. I used to wash denim seperately almost religously, but now I live on my own it would take me a fortnight to build up a denim load.

Temperature... general rule of thumb, 30/40 for clothes, 60 for bath/bed, 75+ for kitchen.

Jon

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Crease removal...

Well, Dex - that easy ironing options sounds just what you'd need to minimise creasing, programme-wise! From experience, I'd say you just need to keep the temp low, the load to around two-thirds of a drum full and the spin short (preferably pulsed). A cool down phase is also good news. Once you have those conditions, most machines will launder without adding any major creases, as well as taking out any that have been put in! That said, it's vitually impossible for some items not to develop creases during the wash; when you get down to basics, there's no 100% effective alternative to ironing your clean clothes. Sorry!

HOOVER UPDATE: have just had chance to study the wash rythms for the OPH616's Sport and Wool cycles. Sport was normal agitation at higher water level (good) and Wool was gentle action at extra high water level (drum turns for about 3 seconds every 90 seconds or so: enough to be effective, though). Haven't time to run a full cycle today, though. Tomorrow I may put the machine through its paces with towels on 60C Cottons with Sensitive Care selected. Think I'll be in for a long-haul cycle with that one!
Also, it's only been in service 7 months, contrary to my earlier post.

Now as to the slim depth Hoover WD, it could well be the classic case of great innovation and so-so production. Keep us posted! I think many of us here would say to washer dryers in general: "just don't do it". Get a compact dryer instead - it could double as an occasional table given the right cover. A bit like anything 2in1, it's forever a compromise and never as good a separates.

Seem to have lost my train of thought now so I'll close...
 
I wash in my Miele Navitronic with all programms!!
white Cotton Towels, underwear and white socks are always wash at boilwash 95 with prewash and 1800rpm

dark load would wash on dark laundry program on 40°C with 1200rpm

easycares would wash on easy-care 40-60°C with 900rpm

wools on wool with 1100rpm and on 35°C

and Jeans with Jeans programm with 1000rpm

oh and the rest on automatic :) with 1200rpm and at 45°C

and here the washer :)

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SuperElectronic,

I know there is no machine that isn"t making creases! I know that easy iron option is perfect on Candy, and it all stands, until we come to the final spin. it does one 600 10s burst! Clothes either go on separate final spin (that is long, and not interval) or drip-dry - clothes comming out soaked. If there was a final spin I would certainly use it always! :D :D
My cousin in London has the siemens, always use Easy-care 40, and dries in the dryer, she never irons! I mean, clothes aren"t 100% ironed, but very acceptable to wear it.
Also, as I said when we put clothes in the laundry basket (that is smallish) clothes are mostly under a big pressure, and they are mostly being creased inthere, so I ask would it be better if I just hang my shirts and t-shirts b4 washing?
Also, for example jeans (no matter wash) are comming out compleatly crease-less, and when I put them in the dryer they crease inthere so badly they must be ironed!
Thank you all for replying! I can"t wait to see more reply"s :D :D :D
 
Creases II

Hmmm...I see the problem, Dex: lack of appropriate spin to dry clothes without causing undue creasing! Not sure what to suggest for sure; you don't want very wet clothes hanging around indoors and certainly not in the dryer (just wastes the electricity). Maybe go with the sythetics 30 idea: light items will be sufficiently spun at 800rpm and with a bit of shaking and reloading the remainder will cope well with the full 1200 separate spin. This has long been my plan of action in the absence of a sophisticated machine with pulse spins etc.

Jeans should not crease when tumble dried, at least not to the point they HAVE to be ironed (and this is where you just have to apply your own judgement: ironing is definitely on the way out these days). Try drying jeans together: I've often found it best not to mix trousers with other garments since the legs are prone to wrapping themselves around other articles. Admittedly you might end up with a tangle of legs but give it a shot. Even more than with the washer, do not load the dryer too fully if crease removal is important. Those clothes need plenty of space to move around! It's also wise not to mix heavy and light items in the dryer: (a) it's difficult to get things uniformally dry and (b) the heavy items will crush and crease the light ones. This also applies in the washer with things like shirts and sheets: when you hit spin the heavy items crush and crease your lighter fabrics.

Take care with the heat setting in the dryer: gentle is always better and less likely to set in creases. As I recall, Whirlpool dryers are pretty fierce on full heat and when I had one it was a struggle not to get clothes smelling slightly toasted even on gentle (you did say you have a WP dryer, didn't you?).

Happy washing in the meantime: it's a learning process all along the way and you can't rely on one source for all the answers; Mothers (usually the starting point) can be particularly unreliable unless they take a particular interest. More often than not, people do what they can get away with (or will put up with) rather than follow best practice.

Alex
 
PS...

...I really don't think you need to keep your dirty items neatly folded. Even having been exposed to pressure, the wash process will relax items sufficiently to remove creases from storage in the laundry bin. You can be fairly confident that creases on clean laundry are the result of the washing process.

:-)
 
Thanks for such a great reply!

I wil try the synth"s 30 thing :)
I always use low heat, because my parents (and some other people around me) made me be afraid of shirnking, and they say clothes can shrink on such a high temperature :P

I just suddenly started thinking how my clothes were perfect b4 I got new machine(s). In my old Candy Exclusive 5000 I knew every bit and everything, everything was briliantly clean, and there was literally no need for ironing anything! And yes clothes are smelling slightly toasted even on gentle (I had a thread about it)!
Just to mention once again, when the less ironing programme on Candy is finished, clothes arent too damp so they can go to the dryer and after 3-4hrs will be dry, clothes are SOAKED, like there was no spin, water dripping of it, it is difficult to dry it even on the washing horse, because if you try to hang clothes like that, you will be wet like you had shower!

Thanks alot again!

P.S
What is your channel name on YouTube?
 
Dyson washing machine:

Cottons 40oc for coloreds
Cottons 60oc for whites or 50oc if they're lightly soiled
Cottons 60oc for bedding and towels or 40oc as some nice looking duvet covers can't handle higher temperatures
Synthetics 40oc or 30oc for darks, jeans and quick washing
Wool 40oc or 30oc for woolens and
handwash rarely.

Take care :)
 
Jeans in the dryer

Fold them up as if you were putting them away in the drawer, I can guatantee you they will come out crease free!

You can wash them on any programme and spin them as fast and long as you like and this will work.

This is a tip I was given by our own Lavamat_Jon.

I always spin everything on the fastest and longest spin possible (except delicates), and wash most things on the cottons cycle.

I never have trouble with creasing.

The main thing that will cause creases is leaving clothes sitting in the washer or the dryer for long periods after the machine has finished. Shaking things out before putting them in the dryer helps too.

Hang up or fold immediately and you shouldn't have any problems.

Matt
 
For me

Well...this are my loads I do in my 1971 gorenje PEA.
There are not many options since the machine is very old. In my previous gorenje I was able to change the programs as I wanted.

Towels and colored bad sheets - 60°C with powdered detergent and Calgon (water softener)

Darks and jeans - 40°C with liquid detergent (without Calgon)

"delicates" / synthetics / coloured underwear - 40°C with liquid detergent and Calgon

Whites - 95°C + prewash with powdered detergent and Calgon (somethimes @ 60°C, but I prefer a 95°C wash)

Wool - hand wash (I think my old machine would be too harsh for my woolens even if it's supposed to wash woolens)

There is no separate cycle for cottons and synthetics, only the temperature and the wash time changes from cycle to cycle and there is a button which turns off the spin after each rinse cycle and the final spin.
I have a separate spin dryer to spin the load befor put it in the dryer.
I don't iron almost nothing because my Bosch dryer realy does a very good job.
I love my old washer because it washes very well.

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Thanks!

Interesting post from you (as I expected, because of so old washer :D)
Do you think Calgon is good? because I found it useless few years ago.. ;)
 
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