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It is with great dismay that my upcoming relocation to South Florida means that I am giving up my gas stove.

Having inherited my mom's Pyrex coffee percolater (WITH the coveted Pyrex stem and basket!) I am at a loss for how to use it on my electric smoothtop.

Mom had a Frigidaire countertop range with the thick coils. She used a star-like thing on top of the coil to use the percolater.

Do I need one of these with a smoothtop? It wasn't necessary over a gas jet; I'd hate to destroy this thing. If I do need the "star" thing, where in the world can I find one?

Garden State thanx to anyone that can help!
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Save Mom's heirloom for another time, another range. A smoothtop will bust that thing to smithereens. There are wire heat diffusers similar to your mom's available in kitchenwares stores, but it's going to be dicey, because of a smoothtop's poorer heat control. You might get it right, but you also might get it wrong - and if you do, there goes a lifetime of memories.

Don't. Risk. It. You'll get another range someday.
 
Actually, its perfect, and the only cookware I recommend for

I cook on a smoothtop range with nothing but antique Pyrex Flameware, and Corning Visions cookware. You absolutely don't need the wire spacer that was used for coil electric ranges. Both the pan and the cooktop are glass, so the heat transfer ratio is the same, eliminating the need for the wire spacer.

In fact, using the wire spacer could damage the stove, since without enough contact between the pan and the burner, the burner could overheat and crack the smoothtop.

I have tried almost every type of cookware on my stove, vintage Magnalite aluminum, enameled steel, stainless steel, cast iron, waterless stainless steel with copper and aluminum core, copper bottom Revere ware, and Modern Teflon cookware. Absolutely none of the others performed as well on a smoothtop as the Pyrex Flameware and Corning Visions.

Some of the other pans left ugly marks on the white cook top (the aluminum, cast iron, and copper), some of them danced and spun ( waterless stainless steel with aluminum and copper core, modern Teflon), and some of them just never seemed to get hot enough, as if they refused to accept heat from the smoothtop (enameled steel and stainless steel).

But the old Pyrex Flameware and Corning Visions are perfect. They leave no marks on the cookstop, they transfer heat at the same rate as the cooktop itself, they are easy to clean, well made, and I can see what's going on in the pans without ever lifting the lids. I never thought I would like using glass cookware, and when I tried it on coil top electric stoves, I hated it, but on a smoothtop, its the best choice.

There are tons of Pyrex Flameware, like your mom's percolator, and Corning Visions cookware on eBay, and at most flea markets and garage sales. I did not want to pay premium prices on eBay, and found mine for practically nothing at flea markets, until I had the complete set of each. If you are patient, you can get your cookware very very cheaply. If you are in a hurry, and have the cash, you can have it in a matter of days from eBay.

Look at your current cookware to decide for sure what you need. Pyrex Flameware is thinner, and doesn't retain heat as long, giving a cooking experience more like what you would get from you average set of aluminum, Teflon, or copper bottom stainless steel pans. It is also lighter, and easier to lift. However, because it is thinner and lighter, it is more fragile. You will want to handle them with care, and get rubber mats or liners for you sink, or they can be easily broken. The oldest pieces, (the ones from the 30's and early 40's with the removable metal wire handle), are a bit thicker, but still more fragile than Corning Visions. The newer, thinner pieces only come in clear, and the older, slightly thicker pieces came in clear with a faint blue or green tint. Also, Pyrex never made a large skillet or dutch oven, just 7 inch skillets, and saucepans in 3 sizes, as well as teapots, coffee pots, and double boilers.

Corning Visions is very thick, and retain heat for a long time, giving a cooking experience more like what you would expect from cast iron, enameled cast iron, or waterless stainless steel with the aluminum and copper core. They are heavy, and require more strength to lift, but are also practically indestructible. I have never broken a piece of Corning Visions, and I cannot say that for the Pyrex Flameware. Visions came in 2 colors, either cranberry, or amber. I prefer the amber. Also, Visions was a more complete line of cookware, with double boilers, dutch ovens, large and small skillets, and a variety of saucepan sizes, but no tea pot or coffee pots.

I have both types, the Corning Visions, and the Pyrex Flameware, since I like both, cook a lot, and find some tasks better suited for one, some better suited for the other. But that is my personal cooking style, your mileage may vary.
 
Poor heat control..

Actually smoothtops have great heat control, and retain heat well. If you ever get a chance to cook on a real wood cookstove, its a similar experience.

I find smoothtops to heat more smoothly, with less wide temperature swings, than any other type of electric range. Yes, they change temperatures more slowly than the instant change of gas, but I prefer the slower change, and the slower temperature change is better for your pans, as changing temperatures quickly can warp, crack, or otherwise damage cookware, no matter what the cookware material.

Smoothtops are not bad, its just a matter of changing your expectations and cooking style. I grew up cooking on electric or wood ranges, and prefer slow steady heat, over the harsh fast heat of gas.

If your smoothtop has poor temperature control, it isn't the cooktop, it is the pans. Most pans react really wildly to smoothtops, not transferring heat properly, especially cast iron, which gets blazing hot way too fast, and is too hard to control. Get good glass cookware, and you will love your smoothtop.
 
All I Can Say Is....

I had to replace more than one piece of Pyrex that was used on a smoothtop back in the '80s, when I was with an upscale kitchenwares store.

I am glad others have had good experiences.

By the way, Kevin, Corning Visions is actually a glass-ceramic product similar to Corning Ware Pyroceram; it is not a Pyrex glass product. The translucency of the product creates a little confusion.
 
pyroceram

I never did understand exactly what the difference between pyroceram and glass was exactly, but the 2 have always seemed so similar I just say glass, lol. I do know that the visions pyroceram is a tougher material than the pyrex glass, but other than that, I havent been able to find much difference in performance between pyroceram and glass, just the longer heat retention from how thick it is.

I'm honestly surprised you had to replace pans due to damage from a smoothtop stove. Mine have never suffered any damage, I did have a piece break years ago on a coil electric stove, but that was it, never on my smoothtop. I have to wonder if perhaps customers took advantage of the store, bringing in pieces they had broken through carelessness, and claiming the stove did it.

The only way I can see that the smoothtop might break one is if the pan boiled dry on a high heat, which is just as a big a risk on gas heat. Not sure what could have caused the issue.
 
Kevin:

I don't think customer deception was usually at work with Pyrex claimed to have broken on smoothtops - though there was certainly enough customer deception at work in that job!

The reason I say that is that such customers brought in the pieces and would say that the instructions did not caution against smoothtops, which was true. People with coil ranges had different stories, usually much more elaborate, and often designed to conceal the fact that they'd done something the instructions warned against.

It was not a huge issue, but it was there.
 
There was no Pyrex Flameware made by Corning in the 80s or even in the 70s,since other than the perks, the Flameware pieces were discontinued after the introduction of the Pyroceram cookware although there were odd leftover pieces that could be found with diligent searching in some hardware stores with neglected housewares departments, but not in upscale kitchenware stores so there could have been no possibility for replacement under warranty. If, by then, they had used the piece for a minimum of 20 years, they got the use out of it that the purchase price of 4 to 6 dollars entitled them. If a store did not sell Pyrex Flameware, how could it be under the obligation to do anything about the warranty? The Corning Company would be the entity with whom the customer would have to communicate about her loss if it was Pyrex Flameware.
 
Tom:

The double boiler remained available until about 1980, and that was the piece with which we had the most difficulty; the teapot was the other item we carried. If memory serves, the warranty against heat-related breakage was two years, and I do not recall any difficulty getting credited for replacements. We did replace over-the-counter, with the Corning rep keeping tabs on broken items.

Later, the double boiler was discontinued and we turned to another supplier, Trans Duck International, for a double boiler that was borosilicate glass. It was not satisfactory.
 
Garden State Caution

Will prevail here. If I can't find one of those "star" things, I'm going to put Mom's 1950s Pyrex percolator in a safe place, until I return to sanity of gas cooking once again.

Again, thanks to all who took the time.
 

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