dominic20
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what kind of oils can I use with this fan and is kroil penetrating oil good to use???
question about lakewood p223 second gen boxfan
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no penetrating oil
I don't think penetrating oil is really for moving rotating parts, rather stuck rusted parts,
you should be able to find electric motor oil for small or large motors, maybe someone here can advise if Zoom Spout Turbine Oil would also be ok
I don't think penetrating oil is really for moving rotating parts, rather stuck rusted parts,
you should be able to find electric motor oil for small or large motors, maybe someone here can advise if Zoom Spout Turbine Oil would also be ok
Use Zoom oil on my vintage Paxton and Lakewood box fans. Drop or two at start of each season or maybe every several months if in constant use goes into oil port opening.
Penetrating fluids are products to free stuck or rusted metal parts. They normally have little residual lubricating properties. One uses appropriate lubricant afterward for that purpose.
Sewing machines need a special sort of oil (largely just pure mineral oil), though some swear by Tri-Flow which as a bit of Teflon added.
For what it's worth blend of acetone and automatic transmission fluid often comes out in testing as equal or better than most store bought brands.
For sewing machines stuck fast with grunge or whatever old school method was to use plenty of kerosene. That substance apparently was common enough in home use back in day to be freely recommended for all sorts of uses. Also recommended was a blend of 90% kerosene and 10% sewing machine oil (pure mineral/white spirits). This gave benefits of dissolving grunge but also left a bit of lubrication.
Penetrating fluids are products to free stuck or rusted metal parts. They normally have little residual lubricating properties. One uses appropriate lubricant afterward for that purpose.
Sewing machines need a special sort of oil (largely just pure mineral oil), though some swear by Tri-Flow which as a bit of Teflon added.
For what it's worth blend of acetone and automatic transmission fluid often comes out in testing as equal or better than most store bought brands.
For sewing machines stuck fast with grunge or whatever old school method was to use plenty of kerosene. That substance apparently was common enough in home use back in day to be freely recommended for all sorts of uses. Also recommended was a blend of 90% kerosene and 10% sewing machine oil (pure mineral/white spirits). This gave benefits of dissolving grunge but also left a bit of lubrication.
Speaking of fans, here’s my ‘71 Windsor P-23 in a turquoise-ish color I picked up back in March. Been using it since though, is on a timer so it’ll come on around 10PM and shutoff at 6AM in the morning and yes, I am one of those people who sleeps with a fan on to cancel out background noise along with having some air moving around since I can’t sleep in a stuffy room or else I’ll be up all night like I’ve had a energy drink or coffee.
Zoomspout turbine oil most of the time. If the bearing has a little play or the motor/bearing(s) are on the larger side, the blue can of 3 in 1 oil is a heavier weight (20w).
When I tear down and rebuild a vintage fan, I assemble with the heavier weight 3 in 1 oil.
https://www.amazon.com/Supco-SUPCO-...ix=zoomspout+turbine+oil,industrial,91&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/3-in-ONE-Motor-Oil-3-OZ/dp/B00065VGUC?th=1
I keep the empty bottle of Zoomspout turbine oil for other projects. The bottles with the telescoping fill tube work fantastic for refilling oil in small engines with greater ease and less mess. I also have one with gear oil for lubing the brake package on Maytag helical washers.
When I tear down and rebuild a vintage fan, I assemble with the heavier weight 3 in 1 oil.
https://www.amazon.com/Supco-SUPCO-...ix=zoomspout+turbine+oil,industrial,91&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/3-in-ONE-Motor-Oil-3-OZ/dp/B00065VGUC?th=1
I keep the empty bottle of Zoomspout turbine oil for other projects. The bottles with the telescoping fill tube work fantastic for refilling oil in small engines with greater ease and less mess. I also have one with gear oil for lubing the brake package on Maytag helical washers.
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Just curious, when rebuilding a vintage box fan where do you get parts? I have a fan from thee early to mid 60's that works well but is missing knobs and the handle is so stiff I can no longer lift it. Also most to the guard clips on the back are broken and the grill is barely attached.
It was a nice fan, reversible, timer and temp control, floor stand is long gone.
It was a nice fan, reversible, timer and temp control, floor stand is long gone.
fan-of-fans
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I use blue 3 in 1 too
I can’t find the Zoomspout oil around here, so I usually use the 3 in 1 (only the BLUE bottle version as it’s specifically for electric motors).
It works fine, but Zoomspout is more convenient.
I can’t find the Zoomspout oil around here, so I usually use the 3 in 1 (only the BLUE bottle version as it’s specifically for electric motors).
It works fine, but Zoomspout is more convenient.
Best light oils to use for various things
As mentioned three and one motor oil light weight turban oil in the zoom spout, sewing machine, oil bicycle oil these are all good lubricants that are good for most light duty purposes.
Penetrating oils are usually meant for freeing up stuck parts however they are also excellent for lubricating, an old motor or clock where the oil has gummed up the penetrating oil mixes with the old oil and actually will free it up very nicely and help The motor run properly again.
There’s really no one perfect oil for everything, fortunately, most of these low powered motors are not very critical. It’s not like engine in a car that really has to be lubricated with an exact type of oil.
John
As mentioned three and one motor oil light weight turban oil in the zoom spout, sewing machine, oil bicycle oil these are all good lubricants that are good for most light duty purposes.
Penetrating oils are usually meant for freeing up stuck parts however they are also excellent for lubricating, an old motor or clock where the oil has gummed up the penetrating oil mixes with the old oil and actually will free it up very nicely and help The motor run properly again.
There’s really no one perfect oil for everything, fortunately, most of these low powered motors are not very critical. It’s not like engine in a car that really has to be lubricated with an exact type of oil.
John
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Honestly, there’s nothing to really replace on a vintage box fan other than wiring or rubber washers, if you have one with a square cabinet with a broken or missing grille, can usually fabricate something out of a egg crate type of material which can be easily obtained at Home Depot.
Honestly, there’s nothing to really replace on a vintage box fan other than wiring or rubber washers, if you have one with a square cabinet with a broken or missing grille, can usually fabricate something out of a egg crate type of material which can be easily obtained at Home Depot.
dominic20
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please help me
so i got the oil 3in 1 oiledit and know it wont turn on i need a new motor urgenty i got it Wednesday ran great until today if someone has a p223 motor please send it to me.
so i got the oil 3in 1 oiledit and know it wont turn on i need a new motor urgenty i got it Wednesday ran great until today if someone has a p223 motor please send it to me.
dominic20
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sorry
i did not look at it close enough the common wire came out of the switch so there for it runs good.
i did not look at it close enough the common wire came out of the switch so there for it runs good.
