I have a 1989 Speed Queen Rayathon built where the pump has locked up. Two belt machine where the pump is on the right. How do i remove it? If the pump can be freed up can i still use it or does it have to be replaced?
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I don't know how to get into it, but I do work in the appliance parts business and the SQ perforated tub belt-driven pumps are commonly available both in drain and drain + recirculating versions.
Dave
I don't know how to get into it, but I do work in the appliance parts business and the SQ perforated tub belt-driven pumps are commonly available both in drain and drain + recirculating versions.
Dave
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Does it Look Like This??
Pumps in the late model machines cannot be rebuilt. They must be replaced if leaking or defective.
TWO-BELT MACHINES
Belt driven pumps are replaced by simply removing the pump mounts.
Tension is kept on the pump belt by adjustment. Tension is kept on the transmission belt by an idler pulley. There is a kit available from your parts dealer with a new belt and idler and instructions on how to adjust the belt.
Pumps in the late model machines cannot be rebuilt. They must be replaced if leaking or defective.
TWO-BELT MACHINES
Belt driven pumps are replaced by simply removing the pump mounts.
Tension is kept on the pump belt by adjustment. Tension is kept on the transmission belt by an idler pulley. There is a kit available from your parts dealer with a new belt and idler and instructions on how to adjust the belt.
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A POS
A POS, says BruceLucenta
well, that was helpful.......
well, that was helpful.......
Agreed Kenny
Agree with you Kenny.....not very helpful and just a tad rude as I see it!
Agree with you Kenny.....not very helpful and just a tad rude as I see it!
amazing, people come here asking for help, and this is the welcome wagon their dealt....again, why some people should not reproduce!
there should be three 5/16" screws holding that pump to the base, this is also how you adjust tension...
you can try and use some oil and loosen it up, but this most likely will be a temporary fix, eventually it will lock up again, but may buy some tie until you locate a new one.....
first figure out if you have a two port, or four port pump for replacement.....
heres a link for a 4 port
www.ebay.com
there should be three 5/16" screws holding that pump to the base, this is also how you adjust tension...
you can try and use some oil and loosen it up, but this most likely will be a temporary fix, eventually it will lock up again, but may buy some tie until you locate a new one.....
first figure out if you have a two port, or four port pump for replacement.....
heres a link for a 4 port
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and a link for the 2 port.......
this should be mounted to a platform by 4 screws, and then the platform is mounted to the base.....
post a pic when you open this up, and WE, at least some of us, can help further....
this should be mounted to a platform by 4 screws, and then the platform is mounted to the base.....
post a pic when you open this up, and WE, at least some of us, can help further....
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Hi Yogitunes, thanks for your help so far, the pump is a 4 port, yes there can be some rude people in this work. here is a pic that I just took. thanks, Mike
Hi Yogitunes, thanks for your help so far, the pump is a 4 port, yes there can be some rude people in this work. here is a pic that I just took. thanks, Mike
that pic refreshes me memory of one of these...
yeah, on the platform theres two screws on the front, and one on the back to remove that, and of course there are four screws that hold the pump to it.....
I had a model like this, what bugged me was the tub to pump hose for the filter allowed water to enter the pump during spin, even though it was spinning backwards, it still pumped water over the load...and sometimes slowed down the spin, and caused premature wear on the main belt...
I found it best to clamp off either hose for the filtering....granted it did not allow the filter ring to work.......
but note, on the last of the Raytheon machines, they noticed this issue, and did away with the four port pump....and went with a two port pump only.....
if they only pulled water from the side of the outter tub, there would not have been an issue....I was trying to think of how to add a port on the side, and cap off the bottom one...
I believe you can find belts at an auto parts store....for the pump only....
the drive belt must be a slip/clutch type.....
I too added a bit more tension to the drive belt as well....
in the mean time, shop around for the best prices....and free shipping if possible....
keep us posted....
yeah, on the platform theres two screws on the front, and one on the back to remove that, and of course there are four screws that hold the pump to it.....
I had a model like this, what bugged me was the tub to pump hose for the filter allowed water to enter the pump during spin, even though it was spinning backwards, it still pumped water over the load...and sometimes slowed down the spin, and caused premature wear on the main belt...
I found it best to clamp off either hose for the filtering....granted it did not allow the filter ring to work.......
but note, on the last of the Raytheon machines, they noticed this issue, and did away with the four port pump....and went with a two port pump only.....
if they only pulled water from the side of the outter tub, there would not have been an issue....I was trying to think of how to add a port on the side, and cap off the bottom one...
I believe you can find belts at an auto parts store....for the pump only....
the drive belt must be a slip/clutch type.....
I too added a bit more tension to the drive belt as well....
in the mean time, shop around for the best prices....and free shipping if possible....
keep us posted....
pump for my 1989 Speed Queen
good evening fellow members, Does anybody have a 4 port pump shown in the picture above that they would like to sell so I can get her up and running? I thought I'd try here first. Thanks, Mike
good evening fellow members, Does anybody have a 4 port pump shown in the picture above that they would like to sell so I can get her up and running? I thought I'd try here first. Thanks, Mike
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Maytag Mike>>
Hey Man,
Yogitunes gave you the best link for a 4 port...and, well, I had a speed queen come in over the weekend...needs a pump.
I waited till today, but I bought the above one this AM, man accepted 27.00 dollars.
There are more on EPray, but they are in the 80-90 dollar range.
Good Luck,
LaVidaBoem
Hey Man,
Yogitunes gave you the best link for a 4 port...and, well, I had a speed queen come in over the weekend...needs a pump.
I waited till today, but I bought the above one this AM, man accepted 27.00 dollars.
There are more on EPray, but they are in the 80-90 dollar range.
Good Luck,
LaVidaBoem
update on the speed queen washer
I have got a pump on order and I need to get a belt. I bought the pump from a fellow club member for $30. Hope to have the machine up and running by New Years. Right now I'm running my 1989 Magic Chef Norge built!!. Just runs like a charm. I would like to take this time to thank Yogitunes and La VidaBoem for all their help will touch base when the machine is up and running. Thanks, Mike
I have got a pump on order and I need to get a belt. I bought the pump from a fellow club member for $30. Hope to have the machine up and running by New Years. Right now I'm running my 1989 Magic Chef Norge built!!. Just runs like a charm. I would like to take this time to thank Yogitunes and La VidaBoem for all their help will touch base when the machine is up and running. Thanks, Mike
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No Prob, Just Blow Me a Kiss...
Hey, Sounds Great,...
I really was worried you would be pissed at me for getting that pump!
Really we are glad to help, gives one a good feeling to pass it on...
Good Luck
LaVidaBoem
Post Script: I had a Magic chef set with the blurp, filter and all, sold the washer some 15 years ago...Still churning along in a rental.
Still have the dryer...is a good choice for the days when I run several.
Hey, Sounds Great,...
I really was worried you would be pissed at me for getting that pump!
Really we are glad to help, gives one a good feeling to pass it on...
Good Luck
LaVidaBoem
Post Script: I had a Magic chef set with the blurp, filter and all, sold the washer some 15 years ago...Still churning along in a rental.
Still have the dryer...is a good choice for the days when I run several.
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My comment may have seemed rude, but if you had worked on as many of those as I have you would have the same opinion of them. Speed Queen went downhill from the beginning of the 70's and those models were some of the worst and problematic machines they ever made. I junked out many of them that had pump problems, tub seal failures along with bearings ruined and transmission problems. They were just not very durable machines at all. The machines Speed Queen made through the 60's were incredible work horses. They still made the commercial coin op machines like those until the late 70's, but not home use machines. They changed the home use machines at the beginning of the 70's and they were very problematic machines and got worse when they made the perforated tub machines in the 80's. That is why I would never trust a Speed Queen machine now. The design is too much like what they built in the 80's. In fact, the transmission looks to be the same as it was then along with much of the rest of it. I think that the recent post on here about a later model machine and the outer tub rusting around the bearing is proof of at least part of what I am talking about. Many of those machines I junked out had inter tubs that had rusted out around the tub seal to a point that they could not be repaired. Who wants to pay for shipping back and forth along with the parts to repair something that will only have some later issue that needs repair too?
That may be, but if someone came on here asking for help on a certain machine they just purchased, or maybe have owned a while, my first response would not have been POS.
I don't care for Frigidaire 1-18's, had my fill of working on them under warranty back in the 70's. But I wouldn't try to tell someone that their recent purchase or a machine they needed help on was a POS, or that they are all junk.
I don't care for Frigidaire 1-18's, had my fill of working on them under warranty back in the 70's. But I wouldn't try to tell someone that their recent purchase or a machine they needed help on was a POS, or that they are all junk.
May have seemed rude?
forget him, there's a reason why the block feature was created....willing to bet he didn't win any awards for customer service!....
the question was how to get at the pump, and can it be worked on or replaced....NOT, what do you think of this machine.....
I have had several of the NorgeTags/Atlantis versions come through, pumps seemed to be the weak point for the ones I found, but still a decent machine, very large capacity, dual drive tranny with the long slow stroke was a nice touch....and years later, these machines are still running strong....
for the pump belt, those are standard V-belts you can find at most automotive stores, for around 5.00.....measure first, or take the old one with you, don't quote me exactly, but I think that is a 22 inch belt....
also check places that service lawn mowers and such, I find they have just about any size belt ever created....
check with Dave/volvoguy....they may have them in stock.....
forget him, there's a reason why the block feature was created....willing to bet he didn't win any awards for customer service!....
the question was how to get at the pump, and can it be worked on or replaced....NOT, what do you think of this machine.....
I have had several of the NorgeTags/Atlantis versions come through, pumps seemed to be the weak point for the ones I found, but still a decent machine, very large capacity, dual drive tranny with the long slow stroke was a nice touch....and years later, these machines are still running strong....
for the pump belt, those are standard V-belts you can find at most automotive stores, for around 5.00.....measure first, or take the old one with you, don't quote me exactly, but I think that is a 22 inch belt....
also check places that service lawn mowers and such, I find they have just about any size belt ever created....
check with Dave/volvoguy....they may have them in stock.....
update on pump belt
Yogitunes, Thanks, i went out today to try to find a belt they all said nla. My question is that everything i have read they say it has to be a cog belt, is that true, i have a gentleman that has the belt I need but on the inside it is smooth. Wanted to get feedback from you guys, again thanks for the help we'll have her up and running in no time. Mike
Yogitunes, Thanks, i went out today to try to find a belt they all said nla. My question is that everything i have read they say it has to be a cog belt, is that true, i have a gentleman that has the belt I need but on the inside it is smooth. Wanted to get feedback from you guys, again thanks for the help we'll have her up and running in no time. Mike
It is a cogged belt. Sent out the pump today. Shipping was $5.95.
