Question re: operating a Miele T1565 Touchtronic

[passatdoc]

Hi everyone,

I am in NYC for a week helping to care for a relative who had recent surgery (and is still in the hospital). I brought only enough clothes for three or four days, since I came in from the airport by train and didn't want to cart around enough clothes for a week.

I have access to the relative's Miele T1565. They weren't using HE detergent (YIKES) so I went to a local market and found some Tide HE.

Question: when I open the dispenser, I see two sections to add detergent: I assume one is for prewash and one is for main wash. Can I just add detergent for main wash only? Or must both compartments be utilized?

Second question: when in doubt, sometimes I just toss the detergent into the wash basket and add the clothes....that is fine in my Frigidaire 2140, where the dispenser empties to the main tub when the machine first fills. However, if I do this with the Miele, will detergent tossed in the tub be spun out after the prewash? And then the wash will proceed with no detergent at all?

I am mostly doing perm press clothes, so the program I was intending to use was Perm Press 105 F (35 C more or less). This is a 240V machine with cold water fill only.

Thanks in advance for your answers. I don't have to wash until tonight, so whatever advice you post in the next twelve hours will help me use the machine correctly.

 

[askomiele]

Hy!

Okay assuming that this is the controlpanel (you gave a typenumber from a dryer...)
Any program you select is carried out without prewash. If you want a prewash you should select the 'heavy soil' option. But I think you don't want a prewash...

Now the detergent dispener... When you pull it out, you'll see 3 compartments. From left to right there is a small one with a litlle cover, that's for the fabric softner (flower icon). The middle compartment is the one for your mainwashdetergent. The right one is for prewashdetergent. Mainwash is indicated with 2 stipes, as prewash has only one.
So... put your detergent in middle!

Here you see the picture I got from a manual:

 

[askomiele]

Is this

the controlpanel?

 

[mynameismiele]

To AskoM: jap that's it.

Googled, It is the control panel of that model.

 

[mynameismiele]

BTW: I wish your relative much luck of recovering after the

See title.

 

[favorit]

T 1565 Novotronic condenser dryer

here it is. It's the first Novotronic serie : the control panel layout tells me so. So I guess the washer has the same age

Dryer manual is here :

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/OperatingInstructions/Laundry/Dryers/Previous%20models/T1565C%20-%20Condenser%20Dryer%20-%20Operation%20Instructions%20-%2003719520-02.pdf

 

[nmassman44]

Passatdoc are you sure its a T1565 and not a W1565?? Because the T is a dryer.

 

[favorit]

... so guess the washer is like that

This is model W1918. Check the actual model on the drawer of the washer and check next link to download the right manual.

If actually the machine looks like that, don't worry about prewash. As AskoMiele wrote, the default setting in these machines is "without prewash" .

If you are in a hurry and clothes aren't so dirty press "Rapid wash" too and, after the cycle is completed run a separate spin cycle @ 1200 rpm, cause permapress graduated spin is nice for line drying, but not the best help for the dryer

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/Op...?ParFolder=Laundry/Washers&SubFolder=Previous models

 

[ronhic]

From what others say...

...about Tide HE...

I would use the following with a 2/3 load

Cotton 40
Rapid wash
Water Plus....

...and less detergent than you think...probably 1/2 what Tide recommend

 

[passatdoc]

oops,,,,,,how about a W1903??!!

The machines are stacked in a closet and I initially gave you the model number of the dryer, not the washer, because the dryer model number was on top. Duh.

Thanks for all your kind wishes, the relative is healing nicely and will be able to go home in a few days to a new box of Tide HE powder (not my favorite, but the only HE powder I could find at D'Agostino's Market in Manhattan (yes, Favorit, I have a funny feeling that the D'Agostino family came from Italy---in NY the market chain is called "D'Ag's" or "Dags" for short).

The dispenser has the prewash compartment on one side, then a compartment for softener in the middle, and a main wash compartment on the other side. The load is lightly soiled perm press so I will just use 30-40 ml (2-3 tablespoons) of detergent.

The dryer is a condenser, so this will be fun, probably nearly two hours to wash and I bet an hour or more to dry the clothes. I am spoiled with my vented gas dryer at home: dries the perm press in 25 minutes. I have done laundry at friends' homes in Europe, so I have no illusions that this process will be as fast as I can do it at home. I just wore my last clean shirt today, so I am grateful to have clean clothes, no matter how long the process takes.

Thanks again for all your help!!

 

[ronhic]

If the machine is not full then or your clothes 'dirty' in the real sense, then use the rapid/quick option. Why wait 2hrs?

 

[favorit]

W1903 cotton and permapress times, levels and rinses

Hi Jim,
in order to save time if your load is :

- half drum (proper permapress load), use permapress 40°C/105°F + short

- more than half drum but no more than 2/3 stick to Chris suggestion (cotton 40°C + waterplus + short)

- full load, again listen to Chris, just reduce spin speed to 600 and press "gentle action" too. Once completed respin @ 900 or 1200.
This is a "compromise" to run two actual permapress loads in one batch. Indeed this machine still has the cooldown even in the cotton cycle. It works up to 40°C, not with higher temps

 

[passatdoc]

results

I should have clarified the nature of the load: it was a full drum, and all the clothes were 100% cotton---but all with a no-wrinkle finish. Nothing that needed ironing if properly laundered and dried.

I used Perm Press 105F (40C) with 1200 rpm spin. Clothes came out WETTER than what I am used to with my humble Frigidaire 2140 (max spin speed 950, and on perm press cycle, the spin is not very long). I was expecting a longer drying time due to this dryer being a condenser model. I used Perm Press+ cycle and everything came out perfectly dried with no wrinkles, though drying required more than an hour (I have done laundry in friends' homes in Europe so I was prepared for this).

All in all, good results, though with a combined wash and dry time of double what I have at home. This was a lightly soiled load, and most likely Miele would show improved performance over my home machines with a heavily soiled load.

Thank you for pointing out which soap compartment to use. Although the layout of the compartments differed from what was posted, at least I learned which wash symbol (with a extra line in it) was for Main Wash.

Tonight will do a load of heavy cottons (jeans, towels, etc.) so we'll see how that goes. Any cycle suggestions? The towels are white so I think I will do them in a separate cycle from the jeans (duh). At home my towels are colors (medium to dark), not white, so I can throw them in with jeans to make a full load.

Favorit: had dinner last night at

http://www.mediterraneonyc.com/index2.htm

While the pasta most likely compare to the quality of your mother's cooking, it was quite tasty. People who are not either Italian or Jewish can seem like minority groups in New York City!!!

D'Agostino

www.dagnyc.com

 

[passatdoc]

ps re: Barilla

You can find Barilla in most higher end American markets.

http://it.primopiatto.barilla.com/home/htm/home.htm

Mangia beni!!

http://www.barillaus.com/Pages/Home.aspx

 

[favorit]

Hi Jim,

I told you to respin after permapress ... actually the load took just 4 short bursts @ 900 despite you had set 1200 rpm. Permapress and wool have a safety lock to max 900 rpm, delicates max 600. Cotton cycle and my beloved "quick 40°C/30 mins" aren't locked. These locks make sense for us in EU because here dryers are used mostly in "emergency" case.
Lines don't forgive and haven't the "ironing effect" of dryers

If the US W1903 is the same of the canadian one in my previous post you can wash your jeans in the "quick wash 40°" ("five to eleven" on the dial) : final spin ramps up straight to 1200 without previous graduated spin. Half an hour it's done.

White towels fastest cycle : perma press 60°C plus "short cycle" (50 minutes but this time remember to re-spin @ 1200 *LOL*) otherwise "cotton 60°C" + "short cycle" (but 80 mins...)
If you forget to press "short", it will take forever *LOL*

Mediterraneo's : OMG, they really deal tomatoes anytime and anywhere ... I suspect they also have a hidden menu with tomato based desserts and beverages *LOL*

Barilla is the E'lux of dried pasta ...... you can find it on the moon too. Actually in northern Italy we make nice fresh, egg added past (tagliatelle, lasagne, tajarin ..). Dried pasta isn't our battlehorse. The best dried past comes from GRAGNANO, close to Naples. They still use true hard wheat flour and extrude the dough through bronze molds. Cuts come out more rough than from stainless steel barilla molds, so sauces will stick better to pasta cuts

I know cause my grans had a pasta workshop. They made also dried pasta, however their fresh ravioli and tagliatelle were far better. It's also a question of wheat, water and climate.

Anyway don't trust that Italy map on the Barilla site : Amalfi is at Rome place and the Lake of Como ... has moved 300 km eastward in SuedTyrol. Barilla, the best in marketing, the worst in geography LOL

This is the Speed Queen of pasta. It's a bit expensive, but it is worth, a step over other makes :

Pasta Garofalo Italia - Pasta di Gragnano IGP

Pasta di Gragnano IGP

www.pastagarofalo.it

 

[passatdoc]

Favorit thank you for the tutorial on Barilla vs. Gragnano. Have not seen the latter for sale in USA but who knows, maybe some specialty stores sell it.

The only decent mass-produced US-made pastas are Ronzoni (New York) and Prince (Boston). Prince used to have tv advertisements advising everyone to serve pasta on Wednesdays ("Wednesday is Prince Day, hey what a treat! Wednesday is Prince Day, up and down the street! Gals making noodles, spaghetti, and sauce...put those elbows on the table...blah blah blah"). Some of the ads featured an Italian mother calling her son from playing in the street to come in and MANGIA: "Anthony!!" So we grew up thinking everyone in Italy ate pasta on Wednesdays and had a son named Anthony.

Prince is sold mainly in Northeastern USA. Ronzoni is more nationwide, as is Barilla. I don't make my own pasta, but I do grow basil and tomatoes and make my own marinara and pesto sauces (however, guests may eat how much or little they wish, I do not yell "mangia mangia beni" at them every five minutes).

Thank you for explaining about the spin speed lockout on perm press. I was wondering why clothes were so wet when I set spin speed for 1200. Last night I did a load of jeans and sturdy cottons, using Fast Wash 105 (40 C), left spin speed at 1200 and the clothes were drier than the perm press load yesterday. Also, using quick wash reduced the time from two hours to about one hour. Tonight I have to wash some towels and will use a hotter cotton cycle.

http://prince.newworldpasta.com/index.cfm?

 

[passatdoc]

the famous Prince Spaghetti ad: "Anthony!!"

The "North End" neighborhood of Boston was traditionally the Italian area of Boston. Today, the entire state seems like an Italian neighborhood.

Notice all the special touches in the ad: mother with the apron, huge pots of spaghetti cooking on the stove, the old relatives sitting around the table eating, etc. The only thing missing was a shot of Michaelangelo's Last Supper in a gold frame on the dining room wall, a REQUIRED feature of home decorating in traditional Italian-American homes when I was a child. I never saw an Italian family WITHOUT the Last Supper on the dining room wall.

Obviously this ad was never shown in Italy, except possibly as unintentional comedy.

 

[favorit]

Antonio has grown up

.....and now prefers Nestea :

 

[favorit]

now there's a football match on tv

and Antonio feels hot too. Nothing could move him from the sofa, but she knows how......