QUESTIONS FOR THE 1-18 FRIGIDAIRE EXPERTS

[soberleaf]

calling all you frigidaire guys, please help me out here!

i am still trying to get the hub nut off my 1-18 so i can put in the new water seal i bought off the web last week. i do not have the slugger wrench that was listed here but will buy it if i have to.

if i could get the pulsator shaft to drop down i could get my 1 1/2 inch deep socket on that hub nut. i have not had any luck in removing the agitator arm assembly. i have removed all bolts (3 of them) using a 12 point socket, 5/16 and 3/8 as the rollermatic service guide i downloaded said to do. but the arm will not budge. i also took out the phillip screw on the other end of the arm and removed the large diameter nut like ring thinking maybe the end of the shaft could then drop out of the arm. no luck. any tips would be appreciated very much!

thanks, pete

first i removed these two bolts

 

[norfolksouthern]

There are some chunks broken off the bottom of the blue cone from the machine I got from goatfarmer, the one I'm hoping to rebuild. I think someone ran a belt with a heavy metal buckle through it, or maybe something else.

NorfolkSouthern

 

[soberleaf]

i removed this bolt

also, the one right above the left side end of the arm.

 

[soberleaf]

i will keep my eye out

for a 1-18 pulsator cone for you!

i'm going to take my time with this rebuild, spend the next few days cleaning parts and getting everything in order so when i go to put it all back together i will already have it in my mind how to do it.

 

[soberleaf]

looking

at the agitator arm on the right side end i removed that phiilip screw that holds the nut ring tight. i have no idea what this ring nut does, it removed easily after the screw ws out. if anyone knows it's purpose please inform me.

 

[soberleaf]

i tried prying open

the gap where the bolts tightened up on with a large screwdriver thing maybe that would release the shaft and it could drop out but no luck.

i will wait to hear from you guys before i do anything else. this machine runs great and if i can get that new seal in it will be my main washer! in fact i'm displaying it in the living room next to my rollermatic and i'm going to leave the cabinet off and paint it bright colors and run a drain for it thru the floor. i also found a new water bellows for it and have ordered 3 of them for good measure! all that's holding me up is that hub nut!

should i just buy the slugger wrench or attempt to use a socket?

 

[soberleaf]

i'm going to paint the outer tub a nice bright color

for festivity and mount a peice of thin plexiglass over this origional schematic that is glued to the tub. the date on it is 8-14-78!

when i get it done it wiull not only be a novelty for my living room but a fully functional washer as well. i am mounting the control panel above it on the wall.

but that hub nut must come off!

thanks again for your help!

 

[kinnakeettom]

there was a special tool to remove the arm from the wheel.
looks like a tie rod end remover.channel locks on the hard edge will remove the arm from the shaft. to remove the entire assembly you are going to have to drop the pump. never liked this design due to mechanism adversely effected by moisture and 1st design spin roller screws would brake due to roller chatter.
I then learned to use a longer screw and you could remove the broken part without dropping the mechanism.
patience, grasshopper; is the key word with these washers.
also learning, to know when to stop, and scrap it.

 

[soberleaf]

thanks

i agree that it's best to quit awhile when frustrated. but hopefully i won't have to scrap this machine!

i just got the agitate arm off! i used a chisel to wedge in the slot where the bolts were and widen it a bit, the arm shaft dropped right out of the agitate wheel assembly. so i dropped the shaft down and can now get my socket on the hub nut. am going to take another break and continue on here.

thanks

 

[jetcone]

No no No. Put the bolts back in

Now that you are determined not to buy the wrench here is one way you can go, but you should have bought the wrench as we suggested.

 

[norfolksouthern]

Question for Jetcone:

Can you provide us a link on where to get this wrench? I'd like to add one to my tools. I have another 1-18 that's disassembled, except I can't get the nut to the agitator off. That's where I stopped. Any help there would be greatly appreciated! Also, I am looking for another agitator for that machine, as the one that's on it is busted a few places on the bottom above the black rubber part. Perhaps I could attempt to fix it with composits when I get it off, but I won't know until I get a better look.

NorfolkSouthern

 

[soberleaf]

well, success!

i got the agitate arm to drop as i said, i sued my 1 1/2 deep socket on the hub nut and it came right off!

i decided to completely strip it all down and took transmission, motor, everything off! here are some pics!

 

[soberleaf]

the hub is out

and so is the old seal

 

[soberleaf]

here is that nut

that took so long to get off

 

[soberleaf]

here is the

old water seal

 

[soberleaf]

transmission is out

and motor comes next

 

[soberleaf]

motor off

now i am going to clean and paint this outer tub

 

[soberleaf]

i have to repair some rust

where the opening is for the drain pump collection cup (back center of pic). it's not that bad yet but there was evidence of leakage in this area.

 

[soberleaf]

you can see the rust

problem better in this picture, in the back right corner. i've had worse problems with my dishwashers so i'm not worried about fixing it, it will be easy!

 

[soberleaf]

if i could find a bearing set

i would go ahead and replace the spin bearings while i am at it. so far no luck. if anyone knows of any please let me know. or are they a standard size i could get from a bearing company?

 

[soberleaf]

transmission is out,

next thing to take off is the pump

 

[soberleaf]

pump is out

and all pump parts and hoses are in the tub for safe keeping

 

[soberleaf]

here is the pump drain collection chamber

the top port where the pressure switch hose connects to is broken off but that will be an easy fix too. i will drill it out and put a tube in and cement it in good.

 

[soberleaf]

another view

of this chamber

 

[soberleaf]

another view of transmission

with the pump impeller still on. i assume it screws off the shaft but as yet have not tried it. will do that tomorrow. i have a new pump seal on order from a friend who is selling me some frigidaire parts.

 

[soberleaf]

motor is in great shape and runs

fine. i am going to oil bearings while it's off. anyone know where to get a belt should i ever need one?

 

[soberleaf]

all in all

i have learned a lot about how to take apart these great old washers! thanks to everyone along the way. and yes, JETCONE you are right i should have that wrench! i am going to buy it.

and NORFOLK, i will send you the website where you can get it
as well. actually it's listed in a post here, i will get the number and send it to you as well.

so i have a new bellows, new seal, if i could only find spin bearings it would be completely tuned up when i am thru with it!

gonna stop for the night and get organized and put all my tools away here, it's been a very busy day of washer fixing!

 

[norfolksouthern]

If I can restore the machine I bought from Goatfarmer, then this would teach me a lot about fixing these wonderful machines. Honestly, a 1-18 is not all that difficult to figure out. All the electronics are simple harnesses, and the cabinet as well as the tub assembly removes easily. Reassembly is intuitive, almost like working on a DD Kenmore as long as the transmission and pump assembly are properly in place.

I just need to find a way to get that agitator nut off in one piece, then my hope is that I can get to the other parts so I can give it the new seals it deserves. Well, a new agitator too. Why settle for just one, when I can have two instead!

Also: I can certainly use more info on the 1-18 timers, and how to rebuild them. Has anybody attempted a project like that?

NorfolkSouthern

 

[soberleaf]

i don't understand

why that top nut won't come loose if you put vice grips on the agitate shaft at the bottom of the shaft like i did and use a socket on that top nut. it's not that big of a nut and bolt, surely it will come loose if you hold the shaft from turning!

is the plastic pulsator agitator broken? i wasn't sure why you were looking for a new one.

 

[soberleaf]

question for jetcone

you said this is just a nut with a lock washer. does the pulsator shaft screw into the top of this walnut shaped "nut". if so is it left handed thread or right. i held the shaft with vice grips and tried to turn this "nut" with a small pipe wrench but nothing happened. am i doing something wrong. even though i don't need to remove the shaft from it i wanted to learn what it was all about for future reference.

enlighten me please!