Raccoons are evil...

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charbee

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Raccoons are Evil Pure Evil. They're not cute, cuddly, funny little critters. They're Evil Vermin Of The Night.

We live on a creek in a fairly rural setting here in central Texas. We're used to critters. We have lots of different critters, and they're usually not a bad problem, but this last week the raccoons have wreaked havoc here on the homestead.

First, raccoons bit into and drank a full bottle of Arm and Hammer liquid laundry detergent that we'd left out on the steps of the deck when unloading the groceries out of the car...figured it would be OK there until morning, after all, what on earth would bother laundry detergent, right? They drank it...the evil little b*stards DRANK IT. There were no puddles, no evidence of it just running out onto the ground, just an odd blue stain on the deck steps from what came out of their initial puncture wounds to the bottle. We found the bottle punctured in about six places, and a hole chewed in it, with their nasty little pawprints all over it.

The next night, they chewed their way into our laundry shed, and bit into (and drank dry...again, no puddles) the other TWO bottles of liquid laundry detergent we'd had stockpiled up on a shelf. Of course, they got their pawprints and general nastiness all over the Maytags on their climb up. They sure do seem to have a taste for liquid laundry detergent...and this is the unscented/dye-free/sensitive skin stuff that's supposedly "pure". That makes THREE bottles of detergent gone, about $12 total, down the gullets of the Evil Ones.

A day or two later, we had emptied out our concrete birdbath (the bowl on top of the pedestal is a little over two feet across, and weighs about sixty pounds) because there was supposed to be a freeze that night. The evil vermin evidently jumped up on the rim during the night, looking for water, but with it empty, their weight flipped it up and off the pedestal, and down onto a nearby stepping stone, shattering it into about eight un-glueable pieces. One very nice birdbath ($50) down the tubes.

These are huge raccoons...we estimate them between 30 and 40 lbs...and they're brazen...they will just stare at you if you confront them, they don't flinch when you shine the flashlight in their beady little eyes. There's at least three or four of them in the immediate vicinity, maybe more, and they breed like rats. You can hear their alien-from-another-world chattering at night as they make Nasty Raccoon Love. We've greatly reduced the amount of bird seed that we put out for the cardinals (we have a flock of about three dozen that congregate here in the winter) so that there's not much left at the end of the day for the 'coons to feed on. Last time we tried to trap them, they destroyed the traps. Obliterated them, bent them beyond recognition. We've tried the coyote-urine-on-cotton-balls deterrent, which did nothing but wrankle our noses, so we've pretty much figured out that we're stuck with having them around, since we're essentially in *their* world. You'd think that between the coyotes, the bobcats, and the huge owls we have around here, at least ONE of those would enjoy the taste of a fat raccoon, especially one recently binge-drunk on laundry detergent, but noooooooo...nothing eats the nasty things!

Ok...raccoon rant over. One good thing came out of this, though: losing three bottles of expensive detergent made us think that maybe we should try something different. Also, wiping away the stains from the stuff (which was "clear" in the bottle), it looked purple, and when we sprayed the spot with water, it turned an odd antifreeze-like orange color before it rinsed completely away. Pure, hmmm?

So, we googled for homemade powdered laundry detergent recipes, and realized that we already had the two main ingredients, washing soda and borax. Got a coupla bars of the Fels soap, made up a batch, and we couldn't be happier with the results. One tablespoon of this stuff is all we need to use. We also put 1/4 cup vinegar into the fabric softener rinse cup of the Maytag agitator at the beginning of the cycle, and it really does soften the clothes, and neutralizes whatever smell the Fels has. As we can't stand any sort of fragrance in the laundry, this has been a perfect transition. AND, we're going to be saving a LOT of $$ by going the homemade route, while not tossing yet another plastic jug into the landfill every couple of weeks.

Now, if we can just find something that will eat raccoons...
 
Try This:

Charbee:

If you are plagued by critters of any sort, there is a trick I've used with very decent success over the years. Find out where they like to sleep or otherwise curl up. Get yourself a nice big box of cayenne pepper, and pepper their favourite spot liberally. If the smell of the pepper doesn't deter them right away, don't worry - the next time they start licking and grooming themselves, they're in for Chilli Today, Hot Tamale. They will learn to associate the scent of the cayenne with intense discomfort and will quickly begin to avoid it.

I had a neighbour whose big, ugly, smelly mutt decided my concrete front porch was the perfect place to cool off on a hot Georgia summer day. Worse, he got very damn territorial about that porch, making it hard for me to get in and out of my own house. Being about the size of two Hounds of the Baskervilles combined, he was not afraid of people in the slightest, so shooing him didn't work. Cayenne solved the problem within 24 hours, permanently (if you're wondering why I didn't take the matter up with the dog's owner, let's just say he was the kind of guy who would let a dog like that run loose. 'Nuff said, mmkay?). I've also used it on a squirrel infestation in the attic - there was one night of intense, loud squirrel chattering that I think translated to "WTF?" and that was the end of that problem, too.

Give it a try. Cayenne is cheap.
 
Yes they are evil!

I can tell you right now that cayenne pepper won't work on raccoons. It might make them sneeze a bit, but other than that I don't think it will deter them.

I would check with your state fish and game department and ask what is legal to do with regard to depredating game animals such as the raccoon. In California, it's legal to trap and euthanize them humanely if you dispose of them on the same property. It's illegal to transport them and release them live outside your property. The reason for this is that there are too many raccoons already and releasing them somewhere else only compounds the problem and may also spread disease.

I don't know what kind of live trap you used, but I've found the Have-a-hart traps work just fine on even our biggest raccoons here. The Chinese clone I got from Harbor Freight? The raccoons just bent it all to hell, and escaped. I finally had to scrap it. The latest Have-a-hart traps use a solid metal trip rod - the older ones used a cable that the raccoons would chew up and I'd have to repair it after every catch. but the more recent ones have been raccoon proof. And we get some monster raccoons here as well.

It's quite possible that there is a den site near your house if not on your property. In my case it was a lean-to on the back of my workshop. I sealed it off and at least I no longer got a troop of mama raccoons with babies in tow every spring. So I'd look for possible den sites and seal them off.

As for the euthanize humanely part, you can email me for details ;-). I don't like doing it but on the other hand if I don't keep the raccoons under control they will devastate my koi pond, eat all the fish, as well as destroy the garden and spread a very nasty disease with their scat.

I hope that liquid detergent gave them severe indigestion but if they've raided it repeatedly I suspect they're immune that that as well. Obviously you don't want to leave any food out and about - no reason to feed the pests if you can help it.
 
Now there's an idea! Cheap and "enviro-friendly" to boot...and if it works on squirrels, it oughta work on these malevolvent li'l beasties, too...thanks!
 
Suds and Charbee:

I'd still give the cayenne a try - if it works, it's cheap, and if it doesn't, you've got the basis for a lot of Cajun cooking.

Cayenne even worked on Elvis, a neighbourhood cat who is the Charles Manson of the feline world. He is absolutely psycho, imbued with a lust for killing anyone and anything that gets in his way. He chewed my cat, Tony, up to the tune of about $500 in vet bills, and has taken on dogs five times his size, injuring them pretty badly. He liked to lounge under my present front porch, which is wood. He does not do it any more; the day he encountered the cayenne, he immediately became disgusted by the smell, and began to give himself a bath. The more he bathed, the worse the discomfort got, of course. He'd lick, then yowl, lick, then yowl, lick, yowl, lickyowl, lickyowllickyowllickYOWL. Worst of all for him, I think, was the sight of my Tony watching him smugly from the front window.

Pride and tongue singed, Psycho Kitty has found other places to hang out.
 
Sudsmaster, yes, we're pretty sure there's at least one place they use as a den here. We've got just over 3 acres, and our cabins are up on stilts about three feet high in spots, so they can chew/dig their way under the houses with little problem. One year a female actually had a litter under one of our bathtubs, between the tub and the subfloor...that was a nightmare! There was also an outbuilding that they got into and we didn't know about for months...the raccoon poop was hideous! We've tried the cheap "clone" trap, since they were cheap, and yes, they mangled the hell outa that thing.

Thanks for the idea of checking what is legal to do with the li'l buggers...we don't mind most critters at all, but these evil beasties have just been too much!

And Sandy, we'll sprinkle cayenne around the perimeter of the cabins and the laundry shed for good measure...it can't hurt!

I've never ever thought about buying a firearm before, but part of me is salivating about taking a thermos of coffee out onto the deck some cold, clear night and sitting there with a shotgun, waiting for a future coonskin hat to come waddling by...
 
We have a serious 'coon problem

in many German cities, including Kassel and some parts of Munich (a large part of the city center is forests, river, hills and people-free wilderness areas or pretty close, anyway.)

The foxes keep the rabbits down and don't bother anyone. The wolves don't come into the cities (yet). Felis sylvestris is too small to be a problem and is adaptable enough that many (me) have had one as house pets. Living with a 45 pound cat who is not fat, just muscular has its advantages and disadvantages, but we did not have rats in our cellar...and the other cats didn't have to fear dogs.

'Coons, however, are immune to everything, have no natural enemies here (duh, they were imported by idiots who thought they were "cute") and have both the brains and dexterity to outwit us.

People use Cayennepfeffer against them over here, it does help, so maybe some are not immune to it...

Of course, the easy solution would be to place a premium on their fur and let folks hunt them for fur and dog-food. Would solve the problem right quick.
 
Over here in California the raccoon is considered a fur-bearing mammal and as such is protected. However, if one or more raccoon is causing property damage ("depredation") it's legal to trap and dispose of them humanely. However the fur cannot be removed and used - the entire animal must be buried on the property.

In most cities and towns, discharge of firearms is prohibited. But if you are in a rural area of Texas, I understand a 20 ga shotgun is perfect for raccoon. I would think a 22 rifle would work as well, but you must have better aim - which is more difficult in the dark...

Be careful of raccoon scat. It often contains the eggs of Baylisascaris procyonis, the raccoon roundworm. These eggs are very hard and sticky - it basically takes a blowtorch to disinfect a raccoon cage. And if injested or inhaled, the eggs hatch in humans and then migrate looking for - a raccoon. Needless to say they can cause damage along the way, esp in the liver, brain, eyes, etc. Adult humans with good immune systems can limit the migration, but infants, elderly, and immune compromised can be damaged, blinded, or even killed by the eggs. And the eggs can last for years in the environment.

As I understand it, most raccoons east of the Mississippi are infected, and an increasing number on the West Coast as well. It doesn't kill the raccoon - it stays in their gut - it's like a dog or cat having worms... might make them slightly less healthy but they adapt. And the raccoon pups' scat has the highest number of eggs, because they don't have mature immune systems to reduce the worm numbers in their guts.

So, if you have to clean up raccoon scat, wear gloves and a dust mask. Dispose of any contaminated articles. Like I say, a blowtorch is recommended to kill the eggs in contaminated raccoon enclosures, so act accordingly. Be real careful if there are children/infants in the house - don't let them play outside where raccoon scat may be on the ground (they like to crap at the base of trees, on flat high surfaces like flat roofs, etc. And once they find a place they like, it becomes like a communal toilet and heavily used).

Ew.
 
Wow

"they chewed their way into our laundry shed, and bit into (and drank dry...again, no puddles) the other TWO bottles of liquid laundry"

I bet they had an epic case of the runs.

I have no advice for getting rid of raccoons other than the 12ga already mentioned (I've been using mine here in the city - as recently as Wednesday - to kill cottonmouths washed in by the hurricane). Number 8 shot will shred them at close range but won't be a threat to your neighbors past 50 yards or so.
 
Tuesdays being our garbage pickup day it's common to see a family of raccoons wandering up the street checking out everyones garbage. I've often seen them in the evening up on my roof, one of them crawling down the chimney so I went in and fired up the furnace. They are super destructive though, you don't want them getting into your attic
 
Seeing you live in Texas, I think a gun would do the trick. A 16ga shotgun would be my reccommendation. And yes, bury the carcass ASAP! Screw PETA.
 
Absolutely! Shoot those damned things!They really are nasty critters. 'Coon scat indeed, gevalt!

58Limited----you ought to be sick of having to look out for those things by now. I guess it comes with the territory, but I would have thought they would have tried to head for areas less inhabited by humans and more inhabited by rodents. Have ya'll always had to contend with so many of them? The lakes and streams around the deep south all have them to varying degree, and we used to see them in Atlanta years ago. I used to see them on occasion in central Florida along with rattlesnakes (they just love to hide in the Palmettos, or along the canals), but not so much in the city. South Florida was much more "snakey" (oh, and those 'Gators, better watch where you go at night!). I made friends with the King snakes as they would keep the venemous ones away. Had plenty of Coach Whips as well. But there was still the occasional Coral snake (which seemed strangely sluggish and non-aggressive) so I learned not to leave the garage door open any longer than I had to!
 
The cottonmouths are dispersing, but the Corps of Engineers had come through doing more clean up and that got them stirred up and moving again. They were washed in from the swamps by the storm surge and are now trapped on the city side of the seawall. The one I killed this past week was about 4 feet long. The hole in the ground left by the shotgun blast is 6 inches from my dog pen - I would have had an injured dog if the snake had gone in there, good thing I came home for lunch and found it.
 
We get BOTH raccoons and possums out here-I have lost count of how many I have hit with my car on the way into work-since both of them are nocturnal(out at night)I encounter them on the way into work on my mid shift.The things even like to run right in front of your car as you come up to them.One night I hit a raccoon and the next day someone skinned it and left the naked raccoon body at the same spot I hit it.Someone needed to make a raccoon hat?Out in the country here people just shoot the troublesome thengs.And during raccoon season they are hunted at night.The object is to "tree" the raccoon with your raccoon dogs and shoot it out of the tree with your spotlight and a .22 rifle.I beleive the skins have some value so the shooter does not want to shoot the critter with a more powerful weapon so the hide isn't destroyed.Some hunters even try to shoot them with their bows for deer hunting.Bet you loose some arrows that way!And out here raccoons and possums eat the same things-sometimes these guys will take it to the mat if they BOTH want to eat the same item-Frog,snake,road kill,etc.One time I encountered a fat raccoon out here at work noseing around one of our drainage ditches here at the transmitter-lots of frogs and crayfish in them-good things for fat raccoons.He looked at me,I looked at him-went on with my security checks.Oh yes-COTTONMOUTHS are quite common out here-and they don't have a sense of humor either-bite first and discuss the matter later.They can be beautiful animals-if you find one that dosen't have dried muck on him.They usually have a black body with red stripes.I lost count how many I have killed out here-don't want the things making a home in our antenna switchbay or outbuildings.Also found one "greeting" me at the door of the old generator building.Greeted him with a shovel!Lately I haven't seen anymore in a while-incidently snapping turtles LOVE cottonmouths!I usually "escort" any snappers out of the building They like the transmitter pump rooms-gets warm and moist there-sometimes our cottonmouth freinds are there too!
 
~Now, if we can just find something that will eat raccoons...

Email Paula Deen and ask here to feature that type of meat. I'm sure there is a recipe for it in her neck of the woods.
The increase in demand will kill them off. :-)

(ducks and runs)
 
I have been told that one would not want to eat urban raccoon. They eat too much off stuff, like garbage.

Given the health hazards from their possible worm infection, I'd also have a problem cleaning and skinning the carcass. Plus it would be, as Nixon once so famously said, wrong... that is, not to bury the carcass on the property.

I have heard, however, that possum is tasty, and raccoon as well. But only the rural varieties.

Full recipes for raccoon and possum appear in my '64 and '75 editions of Joy of Cooking. All mention of the animal disappeared in the '97 edition. The 2006 returns the raccoon to the index, but the text simply says one can prepare it like chicken or rabbit.

Here's the recipe as it appears in the '64 edition:

RACCOON

Skin, clean and soak overnight:

1 raccoon

in:

Salt water

Scrape off all fat inside and out. Blanch, page 132, for 45 minutes [put in large quantity cold water, heat slowly to boil and simmer for specified amount of time]. Add:

2 tablespoons baking soda

and continue to cook uncovered for 5 minutes. Drain and wash in warm water. Put in cold water and bring to a boil. -> Reduce heat and simmer 15 minutes.

Preheat oven to 350.

Stuff the raccoon with:

Bread Dressing, page 456

Bake covered, about 45 minutes -> uncover and bake 15 minutes longer before serving.
 
Lawdy...

Thanks much for all the tips and the smiles, y'all...not to mention the recipes...although I'm sure Paula Deen would find a way to use a whole quart of mayonnaise, a pound of butter, and a quart of heavy cream when SHE cooks up a raccoon!

I'm now officially paranoid of the raccoon poop. Never would have dreamed there was something that deadly lying in wait. Don't want coon worms eating my brain...or what's left of my liver, for that matter!

Looks like we're going to be looking for a reasonably priced shotgun in the near future...it really only makes sense that we should have one around, with all the critters we have to contend with.

And yep, we have possums and various snakes as well. Possums are pretty disgusting critters, snarling, drooling and mangy! Last saw a Cottonmouth here about fifteen years ago, but we've had several rattlers in the last few years, and see coral snakes pretty regularly. They are indeed meek compared to the nastiness of cottonmouths!

Figure there aren't many cottonmouths anymore due to the fact that our creek has pretty much become a dry creek until it rains, and then it fills with runoff for a few days, then dries back up...used to have water in it year-round, but the springs that used to seep from the bluff that fed the creek have all vanished in the last few years.
 

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