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mattl

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Hey, just wondering if anyone here can point me to a similar forum/site for classic ranges. I've got a almost mint 1558 Frigidaire Custom Imperial range that I'd like to find a few parts for, plus discuss.

Can anyone point to a site?
 
Lots of us here have an interest in old electric ranges. I guess you meant a 1958 Custom Imperial Frigidaire range, so I will limit this to Frigidaire ranges. We have some old parts, a lot of controls, but not the fancy trim. I have the 1954 and 1961 top of the line double oven Frigidaire ranges. I used them a lot years ago. They still work and look great. When I moved into my present house in 1992, it had a gas stove in the kitchen. While I was getting rid of it and having a circuit run for an electric range, I had the 1954 plugged into the dryer outlet downstairs and did all of my cooking on it. While the kitchen was beautifully redone, they only left space for a 30 inch range upstairs so the large ladies stayed downstairs. I have had several 30 inch ranges upstairs, each one neater than the one before. I hope that you are enjoying your range. Tom
 
Gas range in Everybody Loves Raymond

Toggle, since you supplied the links to the old stoves, or anyone who knows, is the 36" (I think) range in Raymond and Deborah's kitchen an O'Keefe & Merritt from the early 50s? I notice the chromed handles for the drip trays look similar to some of the stoves shown in the old stove sites. Thanks, Tom
 
Judging from the links provided above--and I'm pretty sure I've been to all of those sites before--it looks like there's a void in the online world where vintage electric stoves and parts are concerned. The focus on all of these sites seems to be gas, and electric stoves appear to be incidental items. To be sure, this is 100% attributable to the fact that gas stoves outlast electrics and thus there are far more old gas stoves out there that are restorable compared to the number of electrics, and there are likely more logistical and parts-related problems associated with electrics.

That having been stated, I'd still like to find a site that has more focus on parts and sales for electrics rather than one that is offering $5,000.00 fully restored gas units.

If anyone knows of a site that's more helpful to those of us who own/are interested in vintage electrics and related parts, I'd sure like to hear about it.

Thanks,

Ralph
 
Ralph:

"That having been stated, I'd still like to find a site that has more focus on parts and sales for electrics rather than one that is offering $5,000.00 fully restored gas units."

It's just as you say- the parts problem on electrics makes them less collectible, because they're sometimes too much of a restoration challenge. Gas ranges are essentially a bunch of plumbing and valves, and a lot of parts are interchangeable from brand to brand, down through the decades.

The only vintage electrics that are even reasonably well-served by parts vendors are GE units, and even there, there are huge gaps.
 
Sandy, yeah, that's just the way it is with electric. In another thread I placed here recently I was looking for advice on replacing the '49 Westinghouse at my mom's with something of similar dimensions. I'm figuring that GE is the brand I'll end up with for that since I see replacement burner coils for GE in all the hardware stores and even if the stove I get happens to be more vintage, I can probably order a coil if needed. When the Westy recently needed a new element for the oven, I brought the old one into the parts store and as the guy saw me walking in with it, he exclaimed "Westinghouse!" and ordered the part right up for next day availability. So I have a certain level of confidence that I could probably secure parts for an older GE if I find the right stove for the space the Westy now occupies. Finding the actual stove is proving to be more of a challenge than I thought, however.
 
Ralph:

What's the parts availability situation with top burner coils on that Westy, if you don't mind my asking?

It's a really pretty range- I wish I could give it a home. Maybe if you got it up to the top of Mount Davidson and gave it a good shove East... ;-)
 
Westy Burner Coils

Sandy, I joined this site over a year ago based on a search for burner coils that lead me to an old AW thread. I still haven't had any luck in locating replacement Corox coils for this stove. It doesn't need any at the moment but the small coil up front has been replaced twice in recent years, as it has received the most use. I was lucky enough many years ago to find a junker Westy of similar vintage in the yard of a local guy in town who specialized in gas stoves, and he gave me the small coils for free but the large coil was already missing.

At this point with the Westy's retirement looming after 58 years in continuous service, the need for replacement coils isn't as great as it was. If the stove remains in its current condition with everything in working order, the quest for coils will be offloaded to the Westy's new owner. I'm guessing it will end up on Ebay since there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in it locally or here on AW. I have not received even the courtesy of a reply to the couple of emails I've sent to the Westinghouse museum per suggestions by other AW members.
 
Actually, many electric stoves are easier to restore than gas stoves. Surface unit switches, except the pushbuttons are more generic than gas burner valves, as are the oven thermostats, except for the oven thermostats on certain Wesinghouse ranges with a very shallow backslpash. Those used a dial with a cable to connect it to the actual thermostat. With gas ovens there can be problems with the thermostats that take a lot of work to rebuild, although it is now easier to find people who specialize in that type of work.

Old gas stoves are restored because for a long time in the 70s and 80s, you could not buy a domestic gas range that was as well built and had 12,000 BTU large burners. Still, the old ovens are small compared to newer ones. Yesterday's cast iron internal piping went to aluminum tubes and cast iron and cast aluminum drilled port burner heads became stamped aluminum. If, however, any of that internal plumbing is missing, you will need to find an identical stove, or someone who has taken one apart, to get the proper parts. Cast iron does not bend like electric wires. If a wire has broken, it can be fixed with another piece and a wire nut. Sometimes a terminal might have to be crimped or soldered on the new end. I have been in stores in Southern California with lots of these old beauties and they are testaments to heavy construction, but old gas stoves with the open space under the burners and the broiler compartments under the oven are far worse at collecting gunk than most electric stoves. While most gas stoves had removable burner trays, many owners did not know how to clean the areas beyond the tray so that could be a real mess with the seams at 90 degree angles and sharp edges. We have rebuilt both and the electrics were generally easier to clean and repair, when needed.
 
Thermostats

Hey Tom, you nailed it. The Westy has that figure 8 cable arrangement for the thermostat. The cable broke many years ago and between me and my dad we rigged up a new one with picture hanging wire that has been working fine ever since.

You make some good points about restoration of electric vs gas but it seems the interest in gas is far greater and the abundance of older gas stoves definitely makes them easier to obtain than electric. I've been checking Craig's List and if gas was an option, I would already have a replacement stove of 40's or 50's vintage in place. Electric is another story entirely, unless I'm willing to settle for a boring and flimsy 30" model from the 90's that's already being kicked to the curb as a throw-away item.
 
Thanks..

Hey, thanks for the quick replies and interesting links.

What I have is a nearly mint Frigidaire Custom Imperial model RCI-75-59 so I guess that makes it a 1959 model. I've got all the extras, including the meat probe in it's original vinyl bag and all the documentation.

I still use the rotisserie quite often during the winter, and the fluorescent tube is original! My mom gave up on the Heat Minder after the neighbors thought there was something going on since the repairman was there all the time -it's now a standard burner. That is one thing I'd like to restore but I think the odds are slim of finding a working replacement at this point. Only other issue is the Cookmaster but Steve D pointed me to a Flair site which lead me to a site that repairs stove clocks for $85. So at some point that may be an option.

Thanks again for the links, I'd really like to find a stove site was well done and friendly as this one - lots of great info here!
 
Is anyone familiar with the Old Road Home? They are located in Texas, I believe and do a lot with old stoves. They also published a quarterly journal; might still. It seems that some retired appliance repair people participate in the site.
 

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