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I knew there were gas ranges and range tops that didn't function without electricity. I hadn't realized that it was such a trend.

When I was doing my fantasy shopping on AJMadison.com I noticed range tops that offered battery ignition. I did a search just now and posted a link to the results. personally, I think it's a bad marketing move by manufacturers to make gas appliances that depend on electricity to function. One of the perks of gas is that it works without power.... At least that's what I always thought.

The mention of alkaline batteries reminds me of an article I read some time ago. Most alkaline batteries CAN be recharged, provided the recharger has certain characteristics which I've forgotten. IIRC, it wasn't anything particularly special and about 1/4 to 1/3 of chargers on a shelf in any given store would be fine. One just had to read the specs and make sure it DID have 'X' and did NOT have 'Y'.

Somewhere on the page there was mention of 'prepping' & 'survival'. While I support the idea of 'prepping', I am REALLY turned off by the attitudes and philosophies many of the sites seem to espouse. I've found that apartmentprepper.com seems to have the least preaching but more importantly recognizes that people live within parameters and have limitations that they do not set. I've yet to see the site's contributors tell people that yes they can if they "really want to", "if it's important enough", "just try harder", "change their attitude", etc. When people write in saying, "I don't have access to a widget. What can I use instead?" they don't get answers that require widgets.

The site is set up so you can start by making small steps with the emphasis on which services are likely to go out first and for how long in the event of a natural disaster. IIRC the single most common occurrence is electricity out for more than 24 but less than 72 hours. I find it very accessible.

IIRC, It's written by a woman who moved with her family from an outer suburb to a city and realized that most of her skills & experience in dealing with storms, etc. simply did not apply.

Although it's aimed at urban apartment dwellers, I think it'd also be helpful for people who have to work within limitations regardless of where they live.

No, I have no connection with the website and know nothing beyond what I've read on it. The reason I like it is that it's the first prepper website I've found that presented ideas that were actually options for me.

Jim



http://www.ajmadison.com/b.php?Ntt=battery+ignition
 


I almost bought an Americana from HD a few years ago when I went to all black.  My previous stove was a Caloric with pilots in white that was here when I bought the house.  The Americana had pilots too, but I wanted a drawer on the bottom instead of the broiler, but sometimes I miss that old range, it cooked well.  I'd consider one of these next time for the simplicity factor.  If the control board messes up on the new Frigidaire I just may go this route.

 

Brown makes these too, and they're made right here in Tennessee!

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http://brownstoveworksinc.com/
 
How Brown

Sells those ultra cheap things for the outrageous prices they charge is a mystery to me, I have been to Cleveland Tennessee and seen the brown factory and its a ratty old run down thing.
 
I do belive Norgeway

that Brown pretty much caters to Apartment builders and Section 8 housing.

None of their stoves have a clean cycle. Neither does Peerless/Premier and given the prices they ask, that is a huge shortcoming.

I had a Brown in B-town when I was an undergrad at a large Big 10 University. It was gas and the only good thing I could say was it boiled water. Period. The oven was a joke, constantly overshot the set temp then would rapidly cycle just to keep 400F going. No glass in the oven door so you constantly had to open the door to check things. No oven light. A coleman camp stove would have carried the freight better if you ask me. But I rented and the place I lived in was not long term. I think I leased for 15 months then I was outta there!
 
My 2011 gas Whirlpool range's

cook top can be lit by a match or a butane candle lighter. I would not have purchased it otherwise.

Lawreence/Maytagbear
 
Brown

WAS....in the 50s and 60s a good mid priced stove, but it went downhill when the founder Grover Cleveland Brown died, it is still the only family owned range company in the US, I have a 1960 Brown catalogue ,which was their 25th anniversary, GC Brown in his introduction said he thought his ranges would compare with any on the market, he said if you the customer did not agree it would be a great service to him if you would write and tell him...I can see a company president giving 2 cents today, and really the 1960 Brown Featuramic ranges were pretty feature laden, you could get a thermostatically controlled griddle, as well as a thermostatically controlled burner, special simmer burners, clock controlled oven etc...now they really are cheap flimsy things, to their credit they do build the 5 Star line of premium ranges.
 
Standing pilot ....

 

is not a good thing.  A tiny little pilot light gives off an incredible amount of heat and humidity because it's on all the time.  I once lived in an apartment building with all standing pilot light stoves, and the hallways were so hot, humid, and had the subtle smell of natural gas. I put something on the center of the stove and it melted even though none of the dials were on. I touched the middle of the top and was shocked it was hot.

Can only imagine the carbon monoxide build-up. 
 
The only time I've seen those Brown ranges was when I've stayed at beach motels. One place had a few of them in the bigger units that were more like apartments. But really, even these places that had apartment size stoves are going toward full featured 30" ranges because they are cheaper and seem more upscale. I would imagine Brown offers discount toward volume buys (such as when a developer builds a new apartment building and orders them).

I did not realize that pilot lights on stoves were banned in 2012. I do agree that there's really no reason to have them. I prefer auto ignition because I don't like the idea of having a flame burning all the time. They do waste a little gas and put off some heat, but they also cause rusting inside the stove. I suppose they may have been a bit more reliable than auto ignition.

Did anyone see that video on the Brown site where they started a grease fire?
 
Not much if any carbon monoxide from a properly jetted pilot light, I would think. That is, mostly blue. If it's yellow it probably isn't getting enough oxygen and that could lead to CO instead of CO2...

 

My outdoor propane BBQ/Grill/Rotisserie uses AA batteries for its igniters. And they work quite well, except the rubber insulation has fallen off one of them and it can give quite a shock... lol... The other grill has a piezo electric "click" starter that also works well enough, no batteries required.

 

For indoors I'd keep a long nose BBQ butane lighter handy. These are relatively cheap and seem to last forever.

 

It *should* be possible to retrofit a burner and igniter that runs on 120v to 9v or even 1.5 v. One would have to study the schematics but I'm betting the circuitry steps down the line AC to some low DC voltage anyway. Alternatively, a 12 volt motorcycle battery hooked up to an AC/DC inverter. But then you gotta probably disconnect the inverter when it's not in use to avoid parasitic battery drain, and then there's recharging the battery to consider. Another possibility is a small computer battery backup module, which combines a DC/AC inverter with a battery, but again, there's the issue of recharging it. But it could work well enough to keep the burners going during power outages, and then recharge itself when power is restored. In fact, I might just move my small battery backup system to the gas cooktop, cause I have a bigger battery backup system still in box I've been meaning to install in the computer area anyway.

 
 
Balderdash!

Lived in a mobile home for 15 years, standing pilot lights on a Magic Chef stove along with one in the oven. Nary an issue with them. And when the power went out, which was often, we could at least cook.
 
Battery ignition.

Many older gas range installations don't have an electric socket behind the range to plug in an igition system. 9v ignition is a viable way to provide electronic ignition without an electrical hookup (and the time, hassle, and expense of installing one).

Dave
 
Actually a lot of old gas ranges had electric clocks, oven and range lights, etc. And a simple extension cord could handle those that don't.

 

And I thought we were discussing electric start gas ranges that couldn't be used in a power outage? Wouldn't they already be plugged in to a nearby outlet?

 
 
Would the 9 volt oven lighter work with a tic, tic, tic, like modern cooktops?  I can't see a 9 volt battery powering a oven glow coil.  We are  good here for heat and stovetop cooking in a ice storm. We just make do without the oven, sometimes for a few days at a time.  Art
 
Would the 9 volt oven lighter work with a tic, tic, tic, like modern cooktops?  I can't see a 9 volt battery powering a oven glow coil.  We are  good here for heat and stovetop cooking in a ice storm. We just make do without the oven, sometimes for a few days at a time.  Art
 
The Hotpoint in the article I linked appeared (to me at least) to have a pilot light for the oven going by the instructions on the front. My guess is the battery makes a spark to light the pilot for the oven, which in turn lights the burner. The pilot would only be on when the oven is on.
 
Its the same principal as my 20 year old Whirlpool. There are no pilots but flash tubes to the top burners when you turn it on with an electric clicker where a pilot would be in a 30" stove and burners immediately light. The oven has a clicker and it lights a pilot that doubles and has to heat a thermocouple up and then the oven burner ignites. But both top and oven work without power if you know how to do it.
 
I don't know why they don't do the same for these "house" type stoves as they have in RVs gas stove. They have a spark igniter just by turning a knob. No battery or electric supply, or lighter needed.

I would think someone could easily install the piezo starter on an existing "house" style range.

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Standing gas pilot lights-remember them in a range that I had in an apartment building.The pilot was actually kinda useful-you could sort of "cook" with it--It was good for melting butter and warming sauces,and even pancake syrup.
"TIc-Tic" starters-I have a propane grill that has a pushbutton Peizio lighter-no batteries or power needed.Just push the button hard-and a spark to light the burner coil in the grill.Would think this could work for regular gas ranges.But you have to start and run the burner--just to melt a little butter or heat sauce.My Mom was shocked when I showed her using the pilot light to "Cook" on-learned it from one of her old cookbooks I still have!!
 
yeah....

"The pilot was actually kinda useful-you could .... "cook" with it--It was good for melting butter and warming sauces"

I know what you mean.
So if it was hot enough to cook with, and one could burn themselves on it, and it was on ALL THE TIME.....
That's just alarming to me.
That's probably why it isn't done anymore.

It was obviously dangerous because, if the gas, electric, water, or cable company has to disrupt service in your neighborhood, who is definitely going to be knocking on your door after it's turned back on?
The gas man.
"We're here to relight your pilots and make sure nothings going to blow the neighborhood up", He says with a smile.

This level of dangerousness, is why I won't allow gas appliances in my home.
Yet oddly, I miss the smell and concept of having a gas stove. Aren't I weird.... lol.

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Just about everyone in my hometown

Was afraid of it too,Not me, if you get a whiff of gas that means to go check your pilots, I switch back and forth between electric and gas cooking.
 
I could relight the pilot myself-no problem if it went out.Otherwise the apartments building engineer could light it for you-other tenants.Relighting pilot lights was common in older homes-folks knew how to do it.Now I sort of miss that pilot light as the butter,sauce and syrup warmer!The stove I had in that apt had the pilot in the center of the cooktop-it folded up like a WP washer so you could restart the pilot if it ever went out.Zip tubes went to the burners.If the top of the stove was cold-time to relight!!!
 

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