Re-program water level - 2007/2008 GE FL Washer

[logixx]

"I have also heard that the uber Mieles have programming that will increase the water levels. Although, nobody has ever posted a picture or a video to prove that."

Miele with "Maximum Water Level" setting activated.

 

[mrb627]

Miele

Is that one of the American Miele's?

Malcolm

 

[logixx]

Yes. That picture is from the Laundry Room Forum.

 

[yogitunes]

the other problem is that the manufacturers don't have adjustable screws for the pressure switch which would allow us to modify these newer machines......

working on a theory.....if it works, I'll get back to you guys....there has got to be a way!

 

[brisnat81]

All of My Miele's set to Euro mode fill about 1" up the glass when it detects that it has a full load on board. At a minimum there is about 2" in the bottom of the drum and the amount goes up from there depending on how big it senses the load is.

In AU mode the highest cottons rinse level would come to the bottom edge of the boot.

 

[yogitunes]

They are suposed to "sense" how big the load is....more clothes...more water...BUT they don't.....to get good results you have to wash small loads

small loads in a machine that can handle huge loads....is NOT energy efficient....at this point, you might as well go back to a top loader washing a 12lbs load, at least then the cycle time is shorter, and the machine itself would be about 1/3 the price.....just my opinion...still working on the issue...I have a few more ideas....

 

[vintagesearch]

the solution to the problem in my opinion is just let the manufacturers from overseas do all the programing and actual manufacturing of these machines and ship and sell them here!like take example Europe they have had FL'ers for decades and without problems!!! ive seen a few videos on youtube of washers from overseas they all have sufficient water levels and it appears that they by default have about 2 rinses and by most standards have an on board heater, am i right for making this observation? in all reality the american ones arent really up to par with the euro ones at all!!! they have got it right with frontloaders in my book. from what ive read and seen here so few FL'ers here in america are dependable and have sufficient water to give good results. it makes me wonder if a commercial FL'er actually uses varying water levels depending on the load size adequate rinses and water consumption why dont domestic ones do the same? i am aware of the vast differences in how they are being used under circumstances in that comparison but still why so spotty? im NOT ranting lol just food for thought at the end of the day miele's gonna get our dollars here..eventually....

 

[spiceman1957]

I could not agree more

from everyone here. I have had my Kenmore Elite for 5 years, and while I like this machine for its water effectively and not having to baby the machine while its running, I do have some qualms about the machine's water settings.

1. I have to run small loads as not to overload the machine.

2. Just like many of you, I don't understand why it has to
take 105 minutes just to do a load of clothes. I
understand here that was the major problem people had
when the first front loaders were introduced (Bentix).

I have found a way to get around this, and still have clean clothes. My washer was a Gentle wash cycle which takes 30 to 50 minutes depending on the small,medium or heavy setting quickly. I find I can wash towels, shirts, and other non heavy items like jeans. This cycle won't allow a extended spin, but I haven't had a problem when its set on the high spin setting. Best of all, the machine fills up with plenty of water and you can actually see the clothes moves freely in the wash cycle and rinse cycle. I like this gentle cycle because I can wash/spin dry a lot of clothes in a short amount of time. I have been so tempted to call a Sears repairman to come out and adjust the water settings, but don't know it would be a wasted call.
John

 

[mark_wpduet]

Spiceman

That's one of the reasons I wish my duet had a bulky cycle. I hear that cycle (at least on the duet) uses a LOT more water but I have yet to see a video of it. It makes me wonder if I got one of those 4.4 cu ft duet washers which has the MAX rinse option in addition to a bulky cycle, I'm thinking that would use plenty of water. Relative works for Whirlpool so we get a employee discount on new appliances.

 

[peteski50]

Water Level In Front Loaders!

It's amazing in such a fast pace world that these machines have all these such fancy cycles that don't do shit. The machines are so well over priced as well. I think it is a disgrace that we do not have the option to choose how much water we use to wash. I believe in savings but this is totalty redicilous. I had a LG that I kicked to the curb because it leaked and the service was terrable along with the fact it took forever to go into a spin. It was a nightmare trying to get a load of wash done! It is pitiful what this country has come to. Talk about front loaders, I just keep thinking about the simplicity of a westinghouse and look at what we have today and it sickens me. When they started to make front load machines here in the 90's the frigmore was the best idea. Simple dial control with just enough options and enough water. (True their was bearing issues that could have been resolved) but this design was a step in the right direction. Then they came up with these to big monsters that are as useless as tits on a bull! I go into places like PCRichard ans Sears and it makes me laugh with the prices they want for these machines. Than they wonder why the econmony is doing so bad. Now Sears has their new designs as LG and looks to have kicked whirlpool aside. To me it's a mistake. The whole appliance industry has gone down the toilet. Just my 2 cent - needed to rant!
Peter

 

[mark_wpduet]

What I don't understand is if the manufacturers have NO CHOICE but to create energy star washers that use a cup of water to wash, why can't the manufacturers add "options" that the customer can use "if they wish?" I mean, can't the manufacturers still claim energy star ratings since their default settings would use little water? Or is that a NO NO?

 

[rp2813]

Bulky Items Cycle

On my Duet the bulky cycle did not add more water. Instead, it would provide breaks in the tumbling action to make sure the entire item got saturated. I only used that cycle once. I want my king sized mattress pads CLEAN, not just soaked.

On that same machine, it was either the "Active wear" or "Quick wash" cycle that used more water.

With the Affinity I have now, which is teetering on the brink of POS status for cleaning ability due to its skimpy water levels, the "Permanent Press" cycle is the shortest at 36 minutes. Otherwise, you're looking at just about an hour to run a load through, and that doesn't count all of the BS rebalancing time.

 

[yogitunes]

Called Frigidaire/Electrolux...what a waste of freakin time....they want to send a tech out to adjust my level again....which I know can't be done......customer service from them is another shot in the dark...they don't even know their product or what it does!!!

have to wait and see what happens!

 

[logixx]

Too low a water level isn't really a problem in Europe (any more!). At least from what I've seen on YouTube, there are plenty of Euro washers that use visible amounts of water during the rinse.

Today, more and more manufacturers offer special cycles, Sensitive cycles, which rinse multiple times. Some offer more than just one extra rinse. Others use turbidity sensors.

Check out this YouTube channel from ad1996it. He's got the newest washers. The first five videos show the brand new Bosch washer from the varioPerfect range. varioPerfect can be added to most cycles. The three settings are default, SpeedPerfect and EcoPerfect.

On EcoPerfect, the cycle is extended to save energy. It might also lower the temp and add soaking periods during the main wash. On SpeedPerfect, the washer heats up faster and tumbles more aggressively and the cycle is faster.

Besides the videos of the BOSCH WAS 24422 he's also got videos of a Whirlpool AWOE 8104. Both are modern European machines and yet look at those water levels on the rinse cycles! Okay, he did use options to raise the water level (-> like Sensitive) but still... I don't think any US front loader would fill that high on any cycle.

Alex

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[washabear]

This is why I like my Frigemore. It uses sufficient water and will add more about a minute into the wash cycle if it thinks it doesn't have enough. Works really well. I had a newer Frigidaire before this and didn't like it for several reasons. I just happen to think the "old-tech" Frigemore works better. I should get another one as a backup in case they decide to stop making them before mine blows up!

 

[thomasortega]

Mark, that's a No-No and NO...

the idiots that created the standards know that if the machine has an option to raise the water level, everybody would use it always.

the "water raise" can be made... instead of a spoon, with the option selected the machine will use a spoon and two drops of water.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Thomas

I'm not so sure about that. Most people don't give a crap about laundry and just throw it in and let it go and then when done, throw it in the dryer. The few of us that are obsessive about it and want clean laundry will use the extra water but I don't think most people would quite honestly. Maybe I'm wrong. LOL

I do know that Whirlpool machines are starting to add a feature called Max rinse or skincare rinse to their machines, which they did NOT used to have at all....I still don't know how much MORE water this uses, but it's a step in the right direction.

 

[askomiele]

Key to clean laundry...

Is not how much water you use, but it's used in a efficient way! Any idea's how to do it? (reusing rinsewater?)

 

[launderess]

Just So You Know

Energy Star is a voluntary program. Manufacturers are free not to make appliances that do not meet that particular standard, though not sure how many of the populace brainwashed to look for that darn yellow label, would purchase such items.

 

[yogitunes]

O K......I think I have it.....

I took off the old pressure switch hose......replaced it with a similar hose from the garage, first a real long one ( about 30 feet) to diplace some AIR to add more water....no luck

several other tries....no luck

BUT....I put a "T" in the line and routed another hose to an empty 3 liter soda bottle with a port installed in the cap, and layed all this in the bottom of the machine.....the result had added water just slightly to the edge of the door opening....about 2 inches more water....with a load of clothes I would really want more....but, the clothes are really soaked and I have suds spashing on the window.....next attempt is to put 2 bottles linked together to see how much water is added...don't want to come too far up on the window, just incase the power goes off and "pops" the door open and have a flood......

so far so good