bradfordwhite
Well-known member
Just realized those prices are for the commodities trading market. When traders on "Wallstreet" buy and sell commodities like natural gas futures. <span style="font-size: 12pt;">Those are like wholesale prices.</span>
Consumer delivered prices are different.
While in fact consumer prices have been trending up since 2015 for Natural Gas, they haven't exactly doubled.... unless one looks at the monthly costs.
Are these quotes from the U.S. Energy Information Administration what consumers see on their bills?
A year ago January the price was $9.68 but by August the cost was almost $21 ?
I haven't had gas service since 2006 for, what was then, a 10 year old home in Franklin, MA. All I remember is it was about $283 for the gas for the last January bill. That was with a new 92% efficient gas furnace. I never looked at the details of the bills back then. During the summer months the gas bill was very little as I only had a gas water heater and stove and kept the water heater a timer.
It sounds like you have signed up for budget billing which averages out the anticipated cost of gas service for a 12 month period so you get a flat amount during the preceding period. And of course just having a number of appliances doesn't mean they cost anything to own if they aren't being used frequently. Doing three loads of drying in a gas dryer isn't going to cost any more if it's all done in one dryer or if each load is done in another dryer.
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Anyway, I need pictures of these used prospective midwestern stoves that someone who can't deliver them, or install them, and isn't quite sure what to get.... is anxious to run out and purchase during this frigid month of January.
It is interesting that one would make the statement about a stove: "...But...they scare me because they have continuously burning pilot lights. If one stops burning somehow I'm terrified of it blowing up. Not so much the cooktop burners as much as the oven. I once lived in an apartment with an old gas range and relit the burners with only marginal fear. The oven though...it is in my head that if the oven pilot goes out, the oven fills with gas..."
but then anxiously pursue having one installed. The average daily masochist is preferred I suppose to other personalities. Life is just an abundant variety.
Anyway, the stove pictured above looks clean.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n3010us3m.htm


Consumer delivered prices are different.
While in fact consumer prices have been trending up since 2015 for Natural Gas, they haven't exactly doubled.... unless one looks at the monthly costs.
Are these quotes from the U.S. Energy Information Administration what consumers see on their bills?
A year ago January the price was $9.68 but by August the cost was almost $21 ?
I haven't had gas service since 2006 for, what was then, a 10 year old home in Franklin, MA. All I remember is it was about $283 for the gas for the last January bill. That was with a new 92% efficient gas furnace. I never looked at the details of the bills back then. During the summer months the gas bill was very little as I only had a gas water heater and stove and kept the water heater a timer.
It sounds like you have signed up for budget billing which averages out the anticipated cost of gas service for a 12 month period so you get a flat amount during the preceding period. And of course just having a number of appliances doesn't mean they cost anything to own if they aren't being used frequently. Doing three loads of drying in a gas dryer isn't going to cost any more if it's all done in one dryer or if each load is done in another dryer.
----
Anyway, I need pictures of these used prospective midwestern stoves that someone who can't deliver them, or install them, and isn't quite sure what to get.... is anxious to run out and purchase during this frigid month of January.
It is interesting that one would make the statement about a stove: "...But...they scare me because they have continuously burning pilot lights. If one stops burning somehow I'm terrified of it blowing up. Not so much the cooktop burners as much as the oven. I once lived in an apartment with an old gas range and relit the burners with only marginal fear. The oven though...it is in my head that if the oven pilot goes out, the oven fills with gas..."
but then anxiously pursue having one installed. The average daily masochist is preferred I suppose to other personalities. Life is just an abundant variety.
Anyway, the stove pictured above looks clean.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n3010us3m.htm

