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Does anyone have one of these? Whats your opinion. Im thinking of buying one but I dont know. If I record an old album onto a CD as is.....welll aint I gonna get it as is? Snap Craclke and pops as well?....I see no place to put hardware in or anything. No way to correct what is? Who has thoghts to share?
 
When I copy over from vinyl, I do it the hard way.

I don't have a dedicated 'off the rack' USB turntable all in one unit because I cannot know of the quality of the turntable nor if it is turning true.

My set up is a pioneer two speed stereophonic and it's clear as a bell and turns true.

I route this through a vintage Kenwood solid-state amplifier.

I then route a cord from the headphones jack on the amp to either the headphones jack or line-in jack on the computer.

I use a free recording and editing program called Audacity to clip the recording etc.

I then use a program that MAY be discontinued, but I can't be sure called 'De-Popper'.

It automatically removes heavy pops and clicks as well as tape hiss. It's not as easy as one two three, because you get varied results. You need to dial in the right amount of de-pop or frequency normalizer or tape hiss, etc. to get it just right. Sometimes if the recording is not too bad, I just leave it as is.

~Tim
 
Polderbits

I do something a bit similar to Tim.

My computer is a long way from my turntable so I usually record albums to my minidisc walkman, and then play it back connecting to the Line In socket on my PC. I use an excellent Dutch program (it is in English) called Polderbits, which records the input which then may be edited into tracks and will, if you want, remove the "snap, crackle, pop" and then save the file to your hard disc. This can then be burned to CD although now it goes straight on my ipod. I have used Polderbits for years and love it. A fully featured trial (good for one week) can be downloaded from the link

 
I bought an ION turntable a couple of years ago, and quickly found the software that came with it was next to worthless. The manual that came with it actually suggested using Audacity, and that's what I've used to convert LP's to CD's since.

 

And you don't actually need to have a USB type turntable to do it. All you need is to route the output of any turntable to a pre-amp (or amp) and then sent the audio out to the computer via a mini audio jack. Audacity can handle the rest. Although, I've continued to use the ION turntable because it's slightly more convenient than using my full audio system with a good Denon turntable. The ION turntable is a bit cheesy, though - you can readily hear any movement on the surface the turntable is resting upon - it has very poor damping - and it comes through as a low frequency bump on the CD. So I may hook up the Denon for future conversions.

 

Audacity gives one ample opportunity to filter out clicks and other defects. I haven't used that feature much because my LP's are all in pretty good shape.

 

Best part, Audacity is freeware. It is not the most user friendly app in the world, but with a little trial and error I was able to get a fair number of conversions accomplished.

 

One thing that will help is plenty of hard drive space on the target computer, especially if you want to store MP3 encoded versions of the music to play on other systems, not CD's.

 

 
 
"burned"CDs degrade after a few years?

I have heard somewhere that the ink used in "burned"CDs can dry up and
degrade over time,rendering the "burned"CDs unplayable-anyone know anything
about this?Might be a nasty suprize for people who think these are as
permanent as a "pressed"store bought CD and lose prized music or data...
(if the degrade problem is true...)
 
I have heard somewhere that the ink used in "burned"CDs can dry up and
degrade over time,rendering the "burned"CDs unplayable-anyone know anything
about this?


I have a few cheap Memorex cd-r's kicking around that I burned music on back in '99 and they (surprisingly) still work without any occurring errors.

I have heard of redbook cd from the 80's rotting to the point that players will no longer recognize them. So much for the 100 year promise that the music industry touted in the 80's and 90's. Hell, I've got 40+ year old open reel and 8-track tapes that still function 100%

I still firmly believe that properly maintained shellac and vinyl formats will outlast any former or current storage media for music. Well, at least my 100+ year old Edison records have held up considerably well against the test of time.
 
format durablity-The Library of Congress archives recordings of many types-however they transfer digital formats to analog-analog archives better and is actually easier to recover in some cases.they use analog tape or cyclinder formats-they have special players for the cylinders-like an old Edison cyllinder player.Recording companies archive material to analog too-less reistent to "print thru".Recording compnies roll both digital and analog tape machines during recording sessions.
 
In reviews Taiyo-Yuden CDRs/DVDs are usually touted as the best. We've been using them for 20 years and haven't run into any degradation or compatibility problems.
 
Where do you get Taiyo-Yuden CDRs/DVDs?

I've not had any problems with CD's (I generally use Sony). However I have occasional problems with DVD's (usually Sony as well). The DVD problem occurs with the Panasonic DVD recorder I use to archive broadcast programs. Sometimes the DVD, after recording, will wind up with a darkened area on the reflective surface. This usually results in the DVD being unplayable after recording - scrap. I'm not sure why this happens, and it happens more with TDK brand DVD's. But it is annoying.
 
the most problem I have with "burned" CD's is I am using todays machines/technology that won't play in machines made earlier....Mainly the 93 SHO and the 98 F150 CD players...they won't recognize the CD........new ones from the store play fine...Yet I have no issues with the other vehicles, could just be a FORD CD player issue.....I also have clicking comming from the speakers of these 2 vehicles when my cell phone has a call comming in......I may have just answered my own question/problem.....

no matter what new technology for music comes out.....I love my records/albums, and especially the reel-to-reel

does anyone still make Reel-to-Reel player/recorders?
 
I don't think any reel to reel recorders are manufactured anymore. I do know a guy who refurbishes Tandberg and Roberts reel to reel units. They come out like new, but he refurbishment costs are high!
 
@ qsd-dan

I'm with you!  90% of my vinyl sounds just great.  Including my 1958 45rpm of Danny & The Juniors' "At The Hop" which I think I've played at least once a week since I was a teenager.  I have a Gemini turntable and Kenwood amp and dual-deck.  Put a lot of my 45's on cassettes for the car (or when guests come over and want to hear oldies).  A friend burned a couple CD's for me of disco 70s/80s stuff, but they all sound "flat" to me.  Ditto the new CD's I've bought.

 

Thanks anyway, I'll settle for the occasional pop or hiss.  Vinyl is not final!
 
Where do you get Taiyo-Yuden CDRs/DVDs?

It's widely available online. We get ours at Supermediastore, CDRs and DVD-R's for computers and either -R's or +R's for standalone players. Another great one is Mitsui (see link), some of their media is (ironically) made here in the US.

IIRC older Ford players choke if MP3s include ID3V2 tags. When you burn CDRs make sure only V1 tags are written to the file headers not V2. Any decent authoring software can control this.

 
In reviews Taiyo-Yuden CDRs/DVDs are usually touted as the best.

That's what I've been using the last 11 years to store info that I care about. You gotta be careful and purchase from a reliable source since there's a lot of fake Taiyo-Yuden cd-r/dvd-r being sold on the internet.
 
yes,there are a few companies that still make RR machines for Recording studios and broadcast.Otari and Studor-have used and worked on both.And of course the old standbys like Scully and Ampex are still found-they may be over 50yrs old but have new electronics-and tubed at that.

 
Enduring bakelite

I like my Edison Diamond Disks
Composite composition
aardvark studios and west orange nat parks have transcribed many.

I just plain like the music.

Having transcribed quite a few of my vinyls to computer, I found starting with a good mechanical player, table/tonearm/cartridge makes old records shine.
I use a vpi-hw19/ET2 arm /sumiko blue pt spcl
They really make a difference.

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my '99 GM only plays the lfet track of recorded CDs, something wrong with the transcription codec I suppose.
 
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