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Good video and love hopper shots!!!Wether it be in this case disposers,trash trucks,large shredders and compactors!Bones---didn't know animals were strung together with rectangular bone peices-hope ours aren't made that way.And oh yes----when GE made nice things and---made them in the US!!The last "GE" disposer I had was made in---CHINA!!!Not anything like the one shown in the film.Disposer makers should bring back the Carboloy shredders.And they would be great in giant EIDAL vertical shredders-their website shows hopper shots of things being ground in them--these machines may have motors up to like 500hp and grind anything dumpted into them!A hopper shot showed an EIDAL shredder grinding scrap metal--loved the SPARKS in the hopper!!!!Like the Fourth of July!And liked the kitchen in the disposall video-nice,- unlike trashy kitchens of today.Throw the todays kitchens into the EIDAL shredder!
 
Stainless Steel

Yesterday I removed and cleaned the stinking 6 or so year old Insinkerator from our facility. That flywheel down in there was RUSTED. Today I learned that it was leaking like a sieve, and sure enough, right out of the motor. So this evening I installed a new one. Now tonight I'm wishing I could have installed a 60 year old DisposAll lol.

I love old stuff!
 
I didn't realize that I had one.  This is in a late 1940's GE electric sink.  I stole the stainless racks for my 1954 GE that's going in the kitchen.  I am now going to use the disposer!  It better be as great as that film makes it out to be.

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1960's disposer

Travis, this looks like a mid to late sixties "Disposall". A wonderful garbage disposal. You will love it!! One of the better disposers for fruit pits and bones.
Can you give us a close up of the manufacturer's label at the bottom of the unit?
 
I beleive the one shown is a real GE machine.The kind with the "blender motor" in it-high speed.These are VERY effective and FAST!Some of these had Carboloy shredders in them.Otherwise just a simple "slasher" type projection in the inside of the hopper above the rotating shredder.
 
..the real thing!

Rex, that is the real thing! A genuine Louisville, KY built "Disposall" built by our own people not the communists in China. (and not by Annaheim Manufacturing in Calif.) I think it is the series-wound motor as well. That's why I wanted to see the manufacturer's label.

I have both the induction models and the series-wound, they are both better than average disposers. The series wound units work at 8000 rpm, about 4 times the speed of conventional induction machines. Using theses "blender" motors as you say, Rex, was a real coup on GE's part. Series wound motors increase torque with a decrease in speed.

The more you put in it, the more is slows down its rpm as the more the torque curve increases. Some people criticize it for this, when in reality you want it to slow down. What sounds like slow is often still much higher than the standard 1725 rpm of a conventional induction motor. A series-wound motor is like a loyal dog who will give its life fighting to protect his master. If it weren't for the thermal/current cutout it would fight the load until it literally burned up.

So yes the GE series unit are much faster on corn cobs and things like pork chop bones. However, I have a tendency to put too many cobs in non-stop and the overload will kick in to protect the motor. On the GE induction, it may be a touch slower, but you can put cobs, watermelon rinds, etc. down non-stop for a much longer time before you overheat the motor.

But the series motor, aside from the noise, is ideally suited for a disposal. Torque increases with load applied with a drop in rpm, so while grinding it's not that noisy as rpms are often in the range of a conventional disposer. As the chamber clears, rpm's go up and that sprays the water hitting the impellers and creates a cleansing effect for the chamber. So when it starts sounding like a vacuum cleaner again, you know its down grinding and flushing itself. Cool!!
 
I like the universal motors,too-another thing that could be done to lessen the strain on the universal motor-put a fan in it like on others to keep it cool.In a disposer the motor heats up FAST-the water actually doesn't cool the motor-if you throw that handful of corncobs in it.Do them one at a time-you would be surprized-like with a blender-the batches end up being faster.When the universal motor disposer is mounted in the kitchen sink cabinet-both the cabinet and water flow muffle the motors noise and the shredding noise.I too like to hear so you can find out as the motor speeds up and shredding sounds diminish-time to add more stuff.Like the blender-the disposer motor works best at high speeds.If I were to have LOTS of tough waste-best to save that for the trash truck!The compactor-packer in those will handle ANY kitchen waste with no sweat!!
 
I would trade in a brand new faux Louie the 14th/french country farmhouse or whatever the name of this current style kitchen with a 1,000 sq ft of marble and tile and wooden embellishments for that kitchen in the video in a heartbeat! Love that video!
 
The video was cool and I'd love to have that kitchen!

I have no experience with disposers. We had these things called humus piles, lol. Anything organic got thrown there.

I got a kick out of that old-fashioned style of speaking the narrator had. For some reason it's impossible to take seriously and only inspires giggles when used to 'teach' what is supposedly 'good','bad','right', 'wrong', etc. HOWEVER, it's great for technical info like this video had. You can actually focus on the information... Unlike today when you feel like someone is trying to convince you something wonderful ... and you're just like, "Dude, just tell me how your impeller design is better than the competition's."

Kind of makes me want to check out the other vids on the site....

Thanks,

Jim
 
Induction

Thanks for the pictures, Travis!! That is an induction motor unit. the induction machines pulled 7.0 amps and GE only put "Heavy Duty" on those machines.

General Electric's series-wound machines, of the day, pulled 5.0 - 5.3 amps depending on the production year. They later had a few BOL series units that went down to 4.5 amps.

I agree, Jeff, that would be a dream kitchen to have!!!
 
I think it works fine. I got all the leaves out of it today. I plugged it in and ran it and it spit out some crud.

I'm not sure if I like the batch feed model. I'll hook it up though and see how it goes.
 
have fun with it, Travis

Rex said it best. They are "great" machines.

I think you will like the batch feed once you get used to it, Travis. They have some advantages. You don't have to push or force things in past the splash guard (since there isn't any.) You just drop them in the hole. And bone fragments, etc. can't fly up out it while operating since the stopper is on while it is running. The stopper also keeps much of the sound from escaping through the opening while it's grinding.

Make sure your impellers (swivel hammers) are free to rotate. Sometimes if the unit has set around unused gunk will get under them. Spray a little penetrating oil on the pivots, let it set for a while, then gring up a couple of pork chop bones. This will usually break the hammers loose and also the bone fragments flying around inside the hopper will scour it and the turntable really nice and shiny clean.
 
GE Disposalls

GE made some good disposers over the years and also some pretty cheap ones. The only reason they made the series wound motor units was they were cheap to make and took up less space. The series wound motor units were generally only recommended for new construction as it didn't grind the waste nearly as fine as the better induction units as a result they would clog pipes if you had older plumbing in your home.

 

The Carboloy cutter that GE added to their induction units is probably more of an advertising gimmick then any real advantage and performance I'm sure it added a 10 or 15% advantage but that one little quarter inch square piece of Carboloy sure couldn't have done much, I have seen older GE disposers with the carboy cutter where it was worn completely smooth. The real beauty of the induction units is the little square holes punched in the grinding ring those holes never really got dual and as a result the machines continue to grind well throughout their lifetime.

 

Even though these GE induction disposers all were quite good I would still rate the Maytag disposers the waste King disposers and the National-Kitchenaid  and the of coarse the In Sink Erator disposers as far ahead of GEs efforts.
 

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