If any of you out there have a bells & whistles Rollermatic anything like the ones pictured below that you might consider selling, give me a holler.
Rollermatic TOL's
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christfr
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omg in pink no less that would be an awesome find indeed hope you find you dream set
TOL Rollermatic?
Well, I don't have one but am guessing you might have an easier time buying some first-born children, lol.
How I wish I had my grandmother's MOL yellow Rollermatic!
Well, I don't have one but am guessing you might have an easier time buying some first-born children, lol.
How I wish I had my grandmother's MOL yellow Rollermatic!
philr
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Unfortunately, a pink set like this wouldn't have the electronic control for the dryer as the electronic control appeared in 1966 (the 1965 model had a "dryness selector" along with thermostatic auto dry but no electronic sensor in Frigidaire dryers that year), the year Pink was replaced by Honey Beige.
I've never seen pink Rollermatics! They must be very rare!
I'm happy with my more common white set for now! (they are my favorite machines!). Note that the washer lid is not correct for this model, the window lids were introduced later, after pink was gone from the color choices... Filtrator dryers had the removable panel below the dryer door but the vented model didn't.
WCI-65 DCIF-65
I've never seen pink Rollermatics! They must be very rare!
I'm happy with my more common white set for now! (they are my favorite machines!). Note that the washer lid is not correct for this model, the window lids were introduced later, after pink was gone from the color choices... Filtrator dryers had the removable panel below the dryer door but the vented model didn't.
WCI-65 DCIF-65
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Hey Phil...thank you for the information. I thought the window lid was pushing it, but a girl can dream... and I am lusting for a TOL Filtrator dryer; if you're going to dream, dream big.
Pink isn't a deal-breaker, but that would be my choice if the Way=Back were working and I could get back to 1966 to Feldeisen's Frigidaire dealership in Kingston NY with pre-Nixon cash. Would you further elucidate this topic by posting a couple of close and detailed pictures of those lovely control panels? I love how Frigidaire changed the colors on all the parts to coordinate with the cabinet porcelain--that must have really pissed off the bean-counters back then. There was a member here who had a pink 1966 Filtrator dryer. I'll try to find the picture.
Hey Phil...thank you for the information. I thought the window lid was pushing it, but a girl can dream... and I am lusting for a TOL Filtrator dryer; if you're going to dream, dream big.
Pink isn't a deal-breaker, but that would be my choice if the Way=Back were working and I could get back to 1966 to Feldeisen's Frigidaire dealership in Kingston NY with pre-Nixon cash. Would you further elucidate this topic by posting a couple of close and detailed pictures of those lovely control panels? I love how Frigidaire changed the colors on all the parts to coordinate with the cabinet porcelain--that must have really pissed off the bean-counters back then. There was a member here who had a pink 1966 Filtrator dryer. I'll try to find the picture.
Wow
Phil------congrats on that set. With tons of pics and wonderful restorations showing up here and keeping me coming back, it's hard to ever choose a favorite, but your machines all lit up and gleaming in reply 4 have got to be in the top handful of sets ever. And there's the Control Top light pod/timer in the left of the photo! Hopefully you won't sue me for copyright infringement if I make that pic my PC screensaver photo.
Phil------congrats on that set. With tons of pics and wonderful restorations showing up here and keeping me coming back, it's hard to ever choose a favorite, but your machines all lit up and gleaming in reply 4 have got to be in the top handful of sets ever. And there's the Control Top light pod/timer in the left of the photo! Hopefully you won't sue me for copyright infringement if I make that pic my PC screensaver photo.
philr
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Ken, I took a few close-up shots of the controls on my 1965. The fonts are different than those used in 1966. Some are faded on the washer but still visible.
First the washer's timer dial.
First the washer's timer dial.
philr
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The washer's push buttons.
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The washer's dispenser door (there's paint missing on the cones of the agitator).
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The dryer
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The sprinkler door
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Close-up view at the dryer's timer dial.
philr
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Close-up view at the dryer's pushbuttons.
Naturally, no one today can make anything half this good (even w/ Today's "looks good today, won't work tomorrow", technology!)...!
-- Dave
-- Dave
Phil,
Many thanks!
There's a picture of a dryer with a round, not square, dial that does have the "Electronic Control" emblem. I may have it confused with something else, but if I find it I'll post it.
...and I know some hate it, but I have always loved that vintage Jet-Action agitator ever since I saw the commercial for it where the little boy makes chocolate milk in a clear Frigidaire tub with that agitator inside.
Ken from Ulster:
Yes, we lived in Red Hook, NY from 1969 to 1975 and it seems like every single Saturday we would drive to Kingston NY for shopping and so my Father could scour lumber yards for his never ending house project. For me, Kingston was the land of dream machines. There was Feldeisen's on Main Street that was cavernous and had so many beautiful Frigidaires (that I couldn't have) that I never forgot it. It was still a time when dealers stuck to one brand and it seemed to me that the whole area was very heavy with Frigidaire stoves and washing machines; for some reason people chose other brands for dishwashers and refrigerator/freezers. There was a Sears near the Thruway where I saw so many models that have been pictured on this site, and, best of all, my Dad took me to a small lumber yard near the bridge called "Milton's" and they carried a full quota of Taylor Avenue Hotpoints!!!!! OMG! I remember coveting a BOL that had the turquoise Fountain-Filter agitator inside a dark-blue speckled BOL tub. What a find. I remember how CRUSHED I was when we went back a couple of years later and everything had changed to Borg-Assimilated Louisville Hotpoints.
I still visit Kingston whenever I'm up in that part of the world. When I lived in Hyde Park in the '90's I spend a lot of time there as well and discovered that nifty area to the south of the town with that beautiful little creek and nifty miniature suspension bridge, I forget the name of it, Port Ewen??:
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Many thanks!
There's a picture of a dryer with a round, not square, dial that does have the "Electronic Control" emblem. I may have it confused with something else, but if I find it I'll post it.
...and I know some hate it, but I have always loved that vintage Jet-Action agitator ever since I saw the commercial for it where the little boy makes chocolate milk in a clear Frigidaire tub with that agitator inside.
Ken from Ulster:
Yes, we lived in Red Hook, NY from 1969 to 1975 and it seems like every single Saturday we would drive to Kingston NY for shopping and so my Father could scour lumber yards for his never ending house project. For me, Kingston was the land of dream machines. There was Feldeisen's on Main Street that was cavernous and had so many beautiful Frigidaires (that I couldn't have) that I never forgot it. It was still a time when dealers stuck to one brand and it seemed to me that the whole area was very heavy with Frigidaire stoves and washing machines; for some reason people chose other brands for dishwashers and refrigerator/freezers. There was a Sears near the Thruway where I saw so many models that have been pictured on this site, and, best of all, my Dad took me to a small lumber yard near the bridge called "Milton's" and they carried a full quota of Taylor Avenue Hotpoints!!!!! OMG! I remember coveting a BOL that had the turquoise Fountain-Filter agitator inside a dark-blue speckled BOL tub. What a find. I remember how CRUSHED I was when we went back a couple of years later and everything had changed to Borg-Assimilated Louisville Hotpoints.
I still visit Kingston whenever I'm up in that part of the world. When I lived in Hyde Park in the '90's I spend a lot of time there as well and discovered that nifty area to the south of the town with that beautiful little creek and nifty miniature suspension bridge, I forget the name of it, Port Ewen??:
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and while we're at it...
2 questions:
a. Where's the START button on this dryer? In later models, it's one of the six buttons.
b. Why is the "Delicate" setting on the Automatic cycle set between the "Regular" and the "Heavy" ? That doesn't make sense.
2 questions:
a. Where's the START button on this dryer? In later models, it's one of the six buttons.
b. Why is the "Delicate" setting on the Automatic cycle set between the "Regular" and the "Heavy" ? That doesn't make sense.
Found it
Here it is. Not a clear picture, but you can almost make out the text:
Here it is. Not a clear picture, but you can almost make out the text:
philr
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Ken,
The picture you sent shows a 1966 DCIK or DCIFK.
It looks very similar to the 1965 model but the controls are completely different. It was the only model to be available in that color that year (and as I told, it replaced pink that was last offered in 1965).
It has an electronic control and moisture sensor like Maytags and Lady Kenmores. Frigidaire used the electronic sensor on the 1966-70 models, it looked a lot like the system used in the Lady Kenmore. In 1971, Frigidaire introduced another electronic smoisture sensor on the Custom Imperial model but it was different from the earlier one and it did use a timer (it was just used in 1971-72).
Note that the letters for the pushbuttons on the 1966 model aren't all capital letters like those on the 1965 and the dispenser door has different lettering, all centered.
The 1965 and 1966 Custom Imperial washers haven't changed much but the fonts/lettering for the pushbuttons also changed and the color patterns for the control panels changed too. In 1966, if you had a white machine, the control panel was gray instead of green as in 1965. Canadian machines continued with this configuration until 1970. The 1967 panel was red/white (I've never seen one of those) but kept using the 1966 round dial and pushbuttons and the 1968-70 models had a black/silver panel like the US "N" models but still had the round dial, and timed-fill for the washer.
The 1965 dryer doesn't have a start button. The models with the electronic control started to use one in 1966 (necessary because they don't have a timer that goes to "off" at the end of the cycle) and in 1967, all models had a start button.
The electronic control was introduced in 1966 on the DCIK, DCIFK, DCIAK and on the Canadian DJFK.
Delicate is placed between regular and heavy/bulky on all Frigidaire dryers that have an automatic mode except those with the electronic sensor (that's also true for the 1-18 models). The reason for that is that it cycles at a lower temperature on Delicate and the timer needs to be set to a longer time on that mode.
Here's a picture of John's (combo52) 1966 DCIAK with an electronic control. It has a non-translucent aluminum panel but still has fluorescent lighting for the dial and below the panel. The fonts are the same as those on the DCIK/DCIFK picture that you sent. It has a green panel like my 1965 because it's turquoise, otherwise, it would be gray.
The picture you sent shows a 1966 DCIK or DCIFK.
It looks very similar to the 1965 model but the controls are completely different. It was the only model to be available in that color that year (and as I told, it replaced pink that was last offered in 1965).
It has an electronic control and moisture sensor like Maytags and Lady Kenmores. Frigidaire used the electronic sensor on the 1966-70 models, it looked a lot like the system used in the Lady Kenmore. In 1971, Frigidaire introduced another electronic smoisture sensor on the Custom Imperial model but it was different from the earlier one and it did use a timer (it was just used in 1971-72).
Note that the letters for the pushbuttons on the 1966 model aren't all capital letters like those on the 1965 and the dispenser door has different lettering, all centered.
The 1965 and 1966 Custom Imperial washers haven't changed much but the fonts/lettering for the pushbuttons also changed and the color patterns for the control panels changed too. In 1966, if you had a white machine, the control panel was gray instead of green as in 1965. Canadian machines continued with this configuration until 1970. The 1967 panel was red/white (I've never seen one of those) but kept using the 1966 round dial and pushbuttons and the 1968-70 models had a black/silver panel like the US "N" models but still had the round dial, and timed-fill for the washer.
The 1965 dryer doesn't have a start button. The models with the electronic control started to use one in 1966 (necessary because they don't have a timer that goes to "off" at the end of the cycle) and in 1967, all models had a start button.
The electronic control was introduced in 1966 on the DCIK, DCIFK, DCIAK and on the Canadian DJFK.
Delicate is placed between regular and heavy/bulky on all Frigidaire dryers that have an automatic mode except those with the electronic sensor (that's also true for the 1-18 models). The reason for that is that it cycles at a lower temperature on Delicate and the timer needs to be set to a longer time on that mode.
Here's a picture of John's (combo52) 1966 DCIAK with an electronic control. It has a non-translucent aluminum panel but still has fluorescent lighting for the dial and below the panel. The fonts are the same as those on the DCIK/DCIFK picture that you sent. It has a green panel like my 1965 because it's turquoise, otherwise, it would be gray.
philr
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Here's a 1966 white DCIAK dryer. Otherwise same as above.
philr
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Here's a picture that you previously posted on the board of a 1966 WCIK washer. It's the equivalent of my WCI-65 washer. Again, this one has a turquoise control panel because it has a turquoise cabinet. And the lettering for the pushbuttons and on the dispenser door changed from 1965.
philr
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Another thing, the 1965 Frigidaire Imperial washer was available in two series, one with rotary controls instead of pushbuttons (WIA-65) and the other one with a mix of rotary controls and pushbuttons (WI-65 and WIC-65 in Canada). Both models had an aluminum panel with a fluorsecent backlit timer dial and illumination under the control panel and no solenoid-activated dispensers. The WIA-65 lacked the Rapidry 1000 feature and also lacked the extra rinse feature that the WI-65, WIC-65, WCI-65 and WCIR-65 had.
In 1966, the WCIAK was a Custom Imperial model but it had the same features as the 1965 WIA-65 Imperial. Same controls and all. I think the only difference between (other than the different fonts for the pushbuttons) both is that the 1965 still had a porcelain cabinet and the 1966 didn't. In Canada, the WJSK mixed the features of the WCIAK and the WCIK as it now had 12 pushbuttons but still aluminum control panels and no dispensers or chrome cabinet trim like the WCIK. There was one Imperial model remaining in 1966 and it was the WIAK, it had similar features as the 1965 WIA-65 model but it lost the fluorescent lighting of the timer dial and lower panel. Instead, it had a 10 watt bulb illuminating the timer only like some of the 1964-65 Custom Deluxe models.
Here's John's WCIAK washer.
In 1966, the WCIAK was a Custom Imperial model but it had the same features as the 1965 WIA-65 Imperial. Same controls and all. I think the only difference between (other than the different fonts for the pushbuttons) both is that the 1965 still had a porcelain cabinet and the 1966 didn't. In Canada, the WJSK mixed the features of the WCIAK and the WCIK as it now had 12 pushbuttons but still aluminum control panels and no dispensers or chrome cabinet trim like the WCIK. There was one Imperial model remaining in 1966 and it was the WIAK, it had similar features as the 1965 WIA-65 model but it lost the fluorescent lighting of the timer dial and lower panel. Instead, it had a 10 watt bulb illuminating the timer only like some of the 1964-65 Custom Deluxe models.
Here's John's WCIAK washer.
Mid 60s TOL Frigidaire Dryers
Ken, the delicate setting on the auto dry cycle is between regular and heavy, because FD dryers used one control thromostat with this time-temperature auto dry system, the control thermostat had a little heater in it that was energized when delicate heat was selected, this heater made the control thromostat trip faster and at a lower air temperature, this coupled with the fact that many delicate loads of clothing were smaller and lighter weight fabrics required a longer heat off timer on period of time to work properly. Even though the timer is on longer when used on delicate the total drying cycle time will still be shorter.
The start button is any of the six buttons, this is the same as many TOL WPs KMs, and MTs to name a few other companies that also did this.
Ken, the delicate setting on the auto dry cycle is between regular and heavy, because FD dryers used one control thromostat with this time-temperature auto dry system, the control thermostat had a little heater in it that was energized when delicate heat was selected, this heater made the control thromostat trip faster and at a lower air temperature, this coupled with the fact that many delicate loads of clothing were smaller and lighter weight fabrics required a longer heat off timer on period of time to work properly. Even though the timer is on longer when used on delicate the total drying cycle time will still be shorter.
The start button is any of the six buttons, this is the same as many TOL WPs KMs, and MTs to name a few other companies that also did this.
Gentlemen,
Thank you for the pictures and the explanations. I wondered if pressing any button activated the dryer.
These machines are beautiful and look like they're built to last a century.
I get very angry when I think of GM Frigidaire appliances of the middle twentieth century and how they were blithely discarded by short-sighted and stupid corporate "brains". To throw away something that was so well crafted by talented and hard working designers, engineers and fabricators says something bad about a nation. I still remember how those once beautiful and reliable GM cars became crappier and crappier as the 70's came on and on. Shame on us.
Thank you for the pictures and the explanations. I wondered if pressing any button activated the dryer.
These machines are beautiful and look like they're built to last a century.
I get very angry when I think of GM Frigidaire appliances of the middle twentieth century and how they were blithely discarded by short-sighted and stupid corporate "brains". To throw away something that was so well crafted by talented and hard working designers, engineers and fabricators says something bad about a nation. I still remember how those once beautiful and reliable GM cars became crappier and crappier as the 70's came on and on. Shame on us.
philr
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John, I guess the "Cancel" button doesn't start your 1966 dryer?!
The 1965 dryer starts even if none of the buttons are pressed (it does the same as if the "NO HEAT" button is pressed). The motor starts as soon as the timer isn't set at one of the "OFF" positions and the door is closed. Also, if you select "NO HEAT" or if no pushbutton is pressed, the timer advances when the dryer works, even in the automatic mode where it advances continuously. Same with my 1964 dryer and my 1957 dryer (this one has timed drying only and still no "NO HEAT" tumbling).
The 1965 dryer starts even if none of the buttons are pressed (it does the same as if the "NO HEAT" button is pressed). The motor starts as soon as the timer isn't set at one of the "OFF" positions and the door is closed. Also, if you select "NO HEAT" or if no pushbutton is pressed, the timer advances when the dryer works, even in the automatic mode where it advances continuously. Same with my 1964 dryer and my 1957 dryer (this one has timed drying only and still no "NO HEAT" tumbling).
yogitunes
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this is all wonderful information to learn and read......what fascinating machines they must have been, and user friendly.....
but Ken...in reply #5....your rendition of the washer control panel, lower left set of buttons....."Self-Destruct"????
I was wondering if anyone caught that!
but Ken...in reply #5....your rendition of the washer control panel, lower left set of buttons....."Self-Destruct"????
I was wondering if anyone caught that!
norgeway
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If we could get!
The government out of the business of rationing water and phosphates, We might get someone to build a good washer again!!! Probably not, but one can dream!
The government out of the business of rationing water and phosphates, We might get someone to build a good washer again!!! Probably not, but one can dream!
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