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It makes me wonder, with machines with such large capacities, what kind of longevity should be expected from these machines?

What is the rated capacity of this machine?

I mean, a typical Triple loader at a laundromat has a ~6.1 cu.ft tub, but it's also designed to handle about 18 kg worth of clothing.

The title is a little bit misleading. It should be "The worlds largest consumer grade washing machine".

When you start to play with the big boys, they don't call it a washing machine, they call it a "Washer/Extractor"... Milnor sells one which can wash 318 Kilograms per load. :-)
 
Samsung

The problem with a machine this big is it is too big! My 5.0 cubic feet ge top loader tub was so large when i wash a queen size thick quilt it would always end up in a ball on one side of the tub, weather i used sheets/ towels or even the bulky cycle , if i put a sheet ir something in with it as a ''buffer'' to even the weight out it was too much and the quilt would not wash well, the ge may be 5.0 cubic feet but how much is actually usable? About half.
 
Thing Is

With large or very large capacity commercial front loaders those that are bolted into concrete do not have nor require suspensions. Those units can and will spin even the most unbalanced loads regardless. Domestic units and or those with suspensions are normally happiest on normal cycles with full or close to it loads. Otherwise spinning usually becomes a problem.

Suppose modern computer programming of domestic machines will enable various systems/parameters to deal with out of balanced loads and spinning... but still.

Have seen persons at local Laundromat cram a twenty-five pound or more capacity washer with everything they own and no sorting. But honestly who has that much laundry on a routine basis?
 
Ge

Laundress my ge did do a protocol if it detected a losd off balance, it would fill halfway with water then agitate drain the try to spin again, but if it is a big blanket or quilt or even a balled up sheet for tha matter agitating more is not going to do anything especially if it is in a ball, these new machines are a work in progress
 
That's how all the HE top loaders work because they can't rearrange the load without water. The only exceptions were the Calypso and the Maytag Neptune TL. You'll find that your new front loader will have less problems with blankets balling up - though it might still be fussy about getting them balanced.
 
Is there....

...a real demand for washers this big? I really can't imagine that a regular 3 person household will ever use the full capacity.
 
Using an 8KG is more than enough ......

for my household I struggle to find enough laundry to make up a full load as I am picky about sorting and won't mix things so I end up waiting for what seems an age before I can get a wash on.... half loads do not spin well so there is no sense in doing them.

 

Austin
 
Samsung :(

I would never buy a Samsung anything ever again. I have a 12kg eco bubble and the next visit from the engineer will be the 5th time. The machine is 7 months old. :(
 
a real demand for washers this big

Sadly yes,

While the federal government and others are pushing front loaders onto Americans, many by and large have not changed laundry habits to resemble say Europeans who have had decades of experience. The idea of a "small" or "compact" 5kg/11lb washing machine is a horror to the majority of American laundry market. They are used to saving up the wash for days, or weeks on end, then dumping the lot into a top loader. Worse the long cycles for front loaders (which have grown even longer as energy restrictions have changed), means they will wait to get though wash day.

Oh and despite they probably will wash their duvet on average once per year many Americans insist on washing machines able to handle "commercial" or "bulky" loads.

Results for these large sort of machines on average have been less than thrilling. Many shake and or vibrate horribly mainly due to unbalanced loads. The loads are usually unbalanced because the 15lb capacity washer has problems dealing with the five or less pounds of laundry it is has to wash. This or you hear complaints about units taking ages to balance/distribute a load and or simply giving up and not spinning fully at all.
 
Gotta admit Laundress, now that over here in Europe I have had a bigger machine (still not American standards though ;) ) The idea of going back to a 5kg machine fills me with horror too.

As above my 12kg is broke at the moment, and I am using a 7kg to tide me over, and I am finding it a struggle.
 
Posted too early...

Agree with the fact that the bigger these machines are getting, the more problems that are becoming apparent.

I have never had a washing machine only last 7 months.

The only other machine I had which had a relatively short life span was a 8kg hoover (10,11,12kg were unheard of over here then) the drum cracked on it 3 times, it was surmised that the drum was too big for the high spin speed it had (1600rpm) so on the spin, the drum banged the sides of the machine and eventually cracked.
 
8kg still falls under a fairly small capacity right?

@liamy1... you scare me... should I be concerned? The warranty on my 8kg 1600rpm Hoover has expired just recently. I guess yours was a lemon... well, mine hasn't cracked yet and it's just over a year of age, however it's not as smooth when on spin as my other down-to-earth 6kg washer.

I'd also struggle to use a bigger machine than the 8kg... mainly because I tend to separate my laundry in many small loads: this enables me to do laundry 'little and often' without ever seing big piles in the hamper. I'll be willing to do a week worth of laundry all in one go only when manufacturers come up with a machine that can also fold your clothes and put them back in the wardrobe ;)
 
Haxisfan

Sorry didn't mean to scare you. Mine was probably a lemon - also this is going back about 5 years now.

If I remember correctly, in all, the machine lasted just about 2 years

The first 2 cracks in the drum were within the warranty period, the last time it went was when the machine was out of warranty - IIRC somewhere between 18-24 months.

I could have pushed down the "it has not lasted a reasonable amount of time, sales of goods act route" but I was young and naive, also my over zealous mother in law just went and bought a new machine to replace it.

I'm sure (also I hope lol) that yours will be fine, and mine was just a lemon. Although I haven't/wouldn't consider buying another Hoover washer now.

My Mum used to (until very recently) swear by Hoover washers, she had the Hoover Nextra Front Loader for 10-12 years, with only minor repairs - motor brushes etc. Then 2 years ago, she replaced it with a Hoover VisionHD Front Loader and now that's messed up. Suppose its the old adage they don't make them like they used to.
 
This is a FALSE GIMMICK!

Unless they are building the machine to commercial washer/extractor specs which I am sure is not close to being the case.  There is NO WAY any current residential FL platform can repeatedly run this kind of load and not fail quickly.  Please don't bring up SQ as we all know they ARE commercial washers dressed up for home use.  I personally would NEVER trust a load that big to anything other than a true commercial laundry machine.

WK78
 
Thanks liamy1

Thanks for you kind words. What a coincidence you're mentioning the Hoover Nextra FL... I have 1 of them and it's nearly 10 years old... it's never had even minor issues, however one can hear the worn bearings now... however it's still in use as is and works a charm.

The 8kg Dynamic is an addition to this washer... I could say that by using it, touching it and living it during this passed year, it doesn't feel any worse made than the older sister, however it seems more aggressive during its operation. Having said that, so far so good... fingers crossed ;)
 
Unless they are building the machine to commercial washer...

Exactly!

Unless the bearings and suspension are designed for a decent daily duty cycle at full capacity and cope with unbalanced loads it is likely this unit will be toast in <five years. That or you'll soon see or hear tell tale signs the bearings are going or shocks will need to be replaced.

Would also like to see if this machine like the short lived Miele 4xxx series is sold at once capacity but limited in daily use to another. Yes the Miele was a huge machine but you were supposed to only load it half or three-quarter full. What sort of nonsense is that?
 
Thank you launderess!

Glad to know you know the truth as well. 

I would say if someone wanted a large FL. a Wascomat Professional Hybrid machine and matching dryer would be the answer.  They have been installing these @ the MN Women's Prison where I work and they are phenominal.  I also hear the same thing from multiple Laundromat operators and my Ecolab rep.

WK78
 
Sold the 8kg LG

its been replaced by an AEG 88730 it says its a 5.5 kg load but to only put in 5 for best results, and you know what? it suits me down to the ground I love it no more fussing trying to get balanced no more waiting 3 hours to do a 60 wash ok so its getting on as it was built in 2001 but its made in Germany where they do still make things to last I have put brand new brushes in and sealed the leak on the water valves and it hums along nicely there is not much to hear apart from the pump that drains it and that will get replaced when it dies.

Austin
 
I get puzzled by a number of issues.....for one, who does need a machine that damn big?.....any FL with a capacity of 3 to 4 cu ft is plenty enough for a regular load...even 4 is pushing it....matching dryers were around 7 cu ft, plenty of equal space...

and so some advertise that it can wash 18 pairs of Jeans, but no where is it agreed to have a dryer that can dry that exact load....for the most part, the dryer should be 2X the size of the washer.....

most of these test loads of their claims, if you read the fine print, is an 8lb load....WTH is that?.....a machine costing close to $2000.00, with a huge 5 cu ft capacity, and can still only EFFECTIVELY wash a load no bigger than what my solidtub speed queen from the 60's can handle!.....and they want you to think your moving forward with technology!
 
better yet.....check this one out.....can wash in 15 minutes, and dry in 14 minutes.....and the fine print again, tests based on the smallest possible load...a Haier portable machine can do that!...for way less than half the cost...

people will not wake up to EFFICIENT does not equal EFFECTIVE!

and lets not get started on Longevity!

http://www.electroluxappliances.com...tm_content=Laundry&utm_campaign=2014EluxBrand
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Apart from the machines not being built to withstand loads that size, I'm not sure the foundations of the average UK home will withstand the vibration of a 15KG load being spun at 1600 rpm. Don’t think I will be getting one I like to sort my washing do a few loads a day. I can’t think why anyone would want to store their dirty washing for a week to fill a machine that size.
 

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