Say Hello To The New Baby of The Family

[SactoTeddyBear]

Re: Miele W1070 Washer:

Hi! Launderess, am I missing something, or is there another Thread about your Miele Washer elsewhere with Pix's?

It sounds like it is behaving with you, after getting a few things "Tuned-Up" and operating finally. Something I think I'm possibly reading wrong or differently, does it have or not have a Window to be able to watch the Wash, Rinse and Spin etc Cycles? I thought that I saw where it has a Solid Door, that would be about as much Fun to operate as one of the older Maytag Neptune's like mine, that I'm going to try and sell real soon, along with the Matching Gas Dryer. They are the "3000" Model 2nd Series of the Original Models.

Peace and Good Luck with you latest find, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...

 

[chestermikeuk]

Doors

Launderess

Congratulations on joing the elite members club, Hoover Twinnies and a working vintage FrontLoader..we need a few more members etc...LOL, dont even think of retiring that twinny, well not before you`ve used all your pee pee pads anyway.

Does the Miele have an inner door as well as the outer door??

Could you not just keep the outer door open to watch the action etc??

Have you inspected your sump yet??

Cheers, Mike

 

[lavamat_jon]

Mike,

For decades Miele have decided that if you want a decor door panel you have to survive without a glass door - the whole front of the machine opens (think older AEG tumble dryers), with no inner door at all :-(.

Of course, the case is entirely different on my new find... my first vintage machine . I shall say no more.

Jon

 

[launderess]

Here is a pic of my machine. Unlike Asko and some other European front loaders, this door is THE one and only door. Mind you it does stop me from hanging around staring at the washer while it is running, so guess that is something.

Personally have never been fond of the hamper style outer doors of Asko washers/dryers. When I take my laundry out of a front loader, want it to fall directly into my laundry basket/cart.

The glass porthole is rather substantial as is the rubber boot. In fact the glass porthole seems to extend quite deeply into the tub, IMHO. This coupled with the tight boot means there is absolutely no leakage. One maddening thing is that since there is a new boot on the machine, one really has to slam the door hard to make it close. The Miele tech showed me how to do this after installing the new boot and told me not to be timid about closing the door so hard. In fact there simply is no other way to get the door closed besides using a good hard shove.

Chester:

Cleaned much muck from the lint filter and the pump looks fine. Ran several cleaning loads to clear out the sump/pump and though can see bits of gunk now and then in rinse or wash water, what can one expect from a 10+ year old washing machine?

Jon:

What is all this about your first vintage washer? Pray,do tell!

L.

Sacto:

Yes, there is another discussion regarding my washer under the "Beltmann Let Me Down" thread.

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[chestermikeuk]

Doors n Doors

Morning Jon

Just testing about this Miele, wondered if it was a Hybrid or something different without seeing the pics!!!

I knew about the Miele machines, integrated and panel doors, after all I was selling them before you where born...O my, now showing my age. Did you know the only other UK manufacturer to use this proven design was the Servis Quartz machines in the 80`s.

Now dont tease us with the vintage machine Jon, do tell!!

I`ll just consult my magic ball, Hmmmm, Mirror Mirror on the wall, Show me the image of Jons haul...

I see a ...no....its .....ahhhhh. "It says three little letters make a small word, and its white with a brown trim...

Hmmmm, not sure thats right, my ball needs shining...

 

[lavamat_jon]

Hehe, it wasn't meant to be a correction... it was more of a moan hehehe... Sorry if it came across that way - would never doubt you anyway Mike

Don't worry about showing your age - you don't look a year past 50 ;-) **avoids slap**

Ahhhh the vintage machine... Mike you maybe close and it's probably obvious and yes it does have a brown trim. Does automatic fabric conditioner tank give you more of an idea? Send an email if you think you know what I've got, maybe I'll let you in on the whole thing . Several people already know too (I can't keep my excitement to yourself), so those who do know keep it stum, aye?

I would imagine though it is from the same sort of era as your W1070, Launderess . Now we can have vintage timer washers together and share our experiences! (Although from reading the manual it seems your's does one more rinse than my new old washer :-( )

I will be collecting it this weekend with Darren if he is better (he currently has the flu, I reckon it's the manflu but don't tell him I said that :-D), and hopefully it will be in pride of place in the corner of my bedroom after I have relegated my Lavamat 86741 to the garage for storage .

Jon

 

[foraloysius]

Launderess,

You said:"Here is a pic of my machine", but where is it?

Wash time guarantee was Miele's answer to the "E" button that was introduced on many European machines. IIRC a Dutch businessman (Gerard de Lange) who owned a chain of appliance stores was the initiator of the "E" button, which made it possible to do a boil wash on 140*F. On some models it only lengthened the cycle and you had to choose a lower temperature yourself. On others that button lowered the temperature automatically to 140*F/60*C and also lengthened the cycle. Miele instead of that introduced the wash time guarantee so you always got enough washtime to get the laundry clean no matter what temperature you chose. I don't know when the washtime guarantee was dropped again. That was done quite silently I guess.

Since this is a 120V machine I guess it's possible that the machine can't heat up all to the set temperature if you start with a cold fill. I assume the time the timer is on the wash time guarantee increment (I think that that's what it is) stays there for a set time, which is probably quite long enough to heat up from cold to boiling temperatures when on 220V but it might not be long enough to do it on 120V.

The heating coming on when the temp. control is on cold could be to make sure that the water is warm enough to solve detergent. Later series do that, maybe your Miele has that too. My Miele heats cold water to about 20*C I think when the water is colder.

 

[foraloysius]

I did a search on my computer and I found a few pictures of a W1070. I hope you don't mind that I post them here, so everybody's curiosity of what a W1070 looks like is at least cured.

 

[foraloysius]

And another one of the control panel

 

[launderess]

Merci Louis:

Yes, that is indeed my machine featured in your snaps. Cannot understand why my link did not "take". Will take some snaps by the weekend and hopefully upload them to my club file.

This "cycle guarantee" business is getting on my nerves! No matter what one does it seems impossible to not use the heater. Granted am beginning to learn where certian things are on the timer, so can shorten cycles where necessary.

Have noticed detergents that used to leave a scent with other front loaders, even my 1918 do not with the 1070. Must be all that water and deep rinses. Am also quite amazed at how stable this unit is, even when full to capacity. Have not be able to get a unbalanced load yet, not that one is really trying.

120V heater:

Unlike Miele dishwashers of the same period and later model Miele washers, the temp control on this unit does not run through the timer. So if water temp does not reach a certian level within in the set period of time, tough chedder. As have not boil washed from cold water anything in ages, have not tried on this unit. From lukewarm or cool water, unit easily reaches 120F and sometimes 140 on "Cotton Short" with a full load. Always test the temp by turning the temp knob down one or two levels to see if it "clicks" at less the set temp. If it does, have just to stop and reset the washer to begin again to gain more heating time.

This machine was designed to work with detergents and laundry aids of the time. Even the manual states that newer laundry products with enzymes work quite well at 120F or 140F, and only the higher temps would be needed for bleaching. Persil and many other detergents today however, contain bleaching activators, and will bleach at even 100F, so again the need to boil wash is not really needed.

Pre-wash as part of the main wash ccyles is always "cold", but again the heater will come on to make sure the water is the proper "cold". Guess it is like Louis states, to make sure the water is not too cold. The maddening thing is the time heating adds to the cycle. Even on 220V it adds some time, and there are times one wishes to do a "quick wash". Again thankfully this is a timer controlled unit, so cycles are easy to modify.

Like all Miele washers, washing results from this unit are excellent. The tumbling action is much gentler than other units one has seen, including laundromat SQ units, but it gets the job done.

Neat thing about this washer is one can open the door up until the water level reaches a certian point. Of course the washer must not be spinning, but otherwise it is nice to be able to add an errant item. Did a wool sweater and hat on "Woolens" the other day, and was amazed by how much water was used. According to my Miele tech, water level on that cycle is nearly half way up the door! Delicates is a tad less at 1/3 up the door.

L.

 

[frigilux]

That's a very handsome machine, Launderess. One nice feature of Euro machines is they fit well under a standard kitchen/bathroom counter.

 

[foraloysius]

Launderess,

Have you tried the short cycles on this machine? It makes quite a difference when you use them. There is a table on page 42 of the manual (if you can open it, it seems to use quite a bit of memory when you do).

Cottons 140F is 77 minutes instead of 118.
Permanent Press 45 instead of 78
Delicates on short and 80*F is 40 minutes.

All quite reasonable I think.

 

[launderess]

Yes, but...

Have read the manual cover to cover as it came with my machine. Only fly in the ointment is the fact cycle times printed are for 220v service. Have not checked to see how much longer (due to water heating) cycles are on 120v.

Use mainly the "short" cycles so far for cottons, even delicates as again found them more than adequate for what I was laundering.

Thanks for the tip though, keep sending those suggestions my way please.

L.

 

[frigilux]

Page 42?!

Is that thing a three volume novel or something? Is that Spielberg on the phone trying to purchase the movie rights for it, LOL?

On Cycle Times: Launderess, you're just going to have to approach a load of laundry with the patience and mindfulness of a Zen master.

 

[launderess]

Yes, page "42". *LOL*

Unlike what comes with today's washing machines, this Miele manual is quite through and easy to understand.

You can read it for yourself by downloading at the following link:

Search by model W1070

L.

Am still amazed how so far nothing bothers this 250lb plus tank of a washing machine. So far not even one bounce of an out of balance load. Then again with over 200lbs of cast iron as a structural base, what can one expect?

http://www.miele.com/manuals/search_manuals.aspx