Second Generation Bosch Nexxt Line Released

[launderess]

Bosch has started to release the second generation of their "Nexxt" washer and dryer line.

New to the line up are lower priced models (Essence) and higher end (more bells and whistles), line (DLX).

Besides some cycle changes on various models, and probably a few bugs and kinks worked out, it looks like Bosch did not tamper much with their very popular laundry line up. It has been reported that Bosch has also increased production at their North Carolina factory where these units are made.

If these units weren't so darn "deep" (almost 32")I'd have one in a New York minute.

Seems a shame Maytag had to import Samsung units instead of putting the R&D into a product like Bosch did. This is probably one of the reasons Maytag is going under.

Launderess

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[westtexman]

Done anyone have a Bosch Nexxt? I have heard mixed reviews about them. I would love to have one, but I'm not sure they're better than a true H-Axis machine such as the Axxis, Miele or Asko. Opinions?

Also, I don't see too many differences between the 3200 and the Premium 6400. Both have internal heaters that heat up to 155 degrees, and both have "Power Wash" options, which allow for a true profile wash. My only concern is with the heater. I like the 205 degrees and 190 that are available in the Asko and the Miele, respectively. Is there really that much difference in cleaning performance at 155 degrees vs. 205 degrees? I have stopped using bleach now that i wash whites at 200 degrees using European detergents with oxygen bleach. Thoughts?

 

[super32]

I have a bosch

I've had one for about 1 1/2 now and its great. I did take some getting use to. I had the old neptune 3000, then 7500 and they were not as picky about what kind of soap I used. The bosch is picky and will turn its knobs up at anything other than he and powder cheer. The cheer I have to be very stingy with. Once I got past that it now sails thru wash day flawlessly.

Differences between the 3200 and 6400? Not much. Spin speed, a few different cycle options and the display. The only other notable difference is the 6400 is suppose to use 1/2 to 1 gallon less water because it has a pressure switch and flow meter. The 3200 only has a pressure switch.

Just my .64 cent worth

 

[appnut]

The 3200 heats the water to 150. The 6400 goes to 153 or 155 on its sanitary cycle.

 

[launderess]

Yes, have heard Bosch Nexxt washers are "very" picky about suds, and since I like to sometimes use pure soap flakes or soaps when laundering, this is another nail in the Bosch coffin for me.

Perhaps the new generation models have corrected the overly touchy suds sensors?

Launderess

 

[mrb627]

Bosch In Color

I read that the next generation of Nexxt units will have a graphite/granite color option. Is this true? Are they in stores yet?

MRB

 

[jmirawm]

If only.....

There was a window in that dryer !

 

[appnut]

I know Tom, I whole-heartedly agree. Personally, I thinnk the dryer looks kinda dorky next to the washer with the window. Like one eye has a patch over it LOL.

 

[frontloadfan]

Nexxt Essense Available at Lowes

Someone asked if the new Boschs are in stores yet. I was at Lowes tonight and they had a Nexxt Essense on display. It was listed at $950. Seems like a better value that the older, basic Boschs (over a thousand and did not include the internal heater).

 

[foraloysius]

The specifications on the Bosch website show that all models have an internal water heating element.

 

[frontloadfan]

All New Boschs Have Internal Water Heater

I am sorry I was not clear. All of the nexxt Boschs (the new models) have the internal heater. My comment was comparing the last generation basic Boschs to the current basic (Essence) Bosch. Before you paid over $1,000 and you did not get an internal water heater. Now (at least at this store), you pay under $1,000 and you get the internal water heater.

It still remains a very attractive machine and the literature sure promotes it as a very quiet machine. My only concern in reading the literature is how they state these new machines are so much more energy efficient compared to other front loaders. That concerns me in that a common complaint among FL users is that the newer machines seem to be using so very little water that it might be compromising in how well clothes are both washed and rinsed.

 

[launderess]

No, think you still have it wrong

IIRC all Bosch Nexxt washers had internal heaters from the start. Difference was how hot they heated water, with the TOL model offerng a "Sanitary" option of 160F I believe.

Bosch made a selling point of it's models that they used the "proper" water temp for various fabrics and held that temp thoughout the wash cycle. Unlike many other washers, Nexxt machiens did not rely on "ATC" but used the heater to reach and maintain water temp. In theory one cold hook up a Bosch Nexxt (using a Y connector) to cold water only and achieve a "profile wash", but at 120v power that might take awhile.

Have the original first generation manuals somewhere, will look this up, but am almost 100 percent sure there were heaters in both the basic and TOL Nexxt washers.

Launderess

 

[foraloysius]

From the beginning...

Yes Launderess, you are right, all Bosch Nexxt models had internal water heaters from the start. The new models are an addition to the original line, the current machines are not a second generation. They started with the 3200 and the Premium 6400, the Essence 2100 and the DLX 4300 were added later.

 

[super32]

profile wash

The nexxt models have a profile wash already. You have to choose the "power wash" option. Also if you choose the pre-soak with the "normal wash" option it will fill with cold and heat. It makes a world of difference when you have a pile of wash with a varity of different stains. Set it and forget it.

 

[Boschowner]

Super32:

I have the Bosch Nexxt 3200, and you cannot set the soak cycle for anything other than soak. It fills with cold water and does not heat the water.It will tumble intimately for 2 hours, drain and then a slow spin. Then you can reset it for whichever cycle you want. Now unless you meant the power-wash, then it will fill with cold and heat to whatever temp. its set for.

Unless the new machines have the soak cycle like you mentioned. You called it pre-soak, so maybe the new ones are different.That I dont know.

And you are 100% correct laundress, these machine seem to be VERY suds sensitive. Towels are the worst, then come jeans. For those I make sure I use very little detergent. Otherwise it will suds lock and take forever to finish a load with the added extra rinses.

FrontLoadFan:

This machine does use very little water, but I am not sure it uses all that much less than most new FLs. But some how with so little water, everything comes out very clean. And it is very quiet, even the pump.

Bobby

 

[super32]

pre-soak/soak

boschowner

You are correct about the soak cycle. It fills with cold water and no heating takes place. The pre-soak fills cold and heats, but I forgot its an option thats only on 6400. I kept thinking there was a pre-soak botton next to the power wash, bleach, and rinse plus options.

Scott

 

[tomturbomatic]

Unless it is hidden somewhere in tricks that you can do with the options & timer, I could not figure out if the older ones could be set for a Rinse & Spin, but it did not look like a possibility and was not mentioned in the manual I downloaded. The new US Mieles can't be set for that either, which I consider a serious shortcoming.

 

[launderess]

No, one cannot set the older Bosch Nexxt units for "rinse and spin". One of the reasons besides their size they went lower on my list. For those that belittle the cycle, "rinse and spin" is not only good for refreshing items that have been say in storage, but is also great for:

use as a starching cycle

removing excess detergent when a full cycle even with extra rinses did not.

"flushing" laundry - a sort of quick pre-wash to remove muck/grime.

And so on.

Didn't know Miele ditched this cycle as well on their newest models. Shame.

Just so everyone knows, at least on the older Bosch Nexxt washers, one could set them up with a "Y" connector and control water temp from the supply side. This would enable a "warm" soak if one wished. When we spoke with a Bosch CR rep on these units when they first came out, apparently Nexxt washers use "ATC" to activate the heater on cycles to maintain/heat water to the proper temp. The washers do not monitor incoming water temp the way other do with ATC to either add hot or cold water to achieve a set incoming water temp. If this is still true it opens up a world of options including "warm" rinses.

Launderess

 

[appnut]

Two things that bug me about the Bosch:
You don't have a choice on the more deicate cycles of makking a choice that begins with warm wash & you opt. for cold and vice versa.

I don't know why but these kinda cool set temps just don't seem quite high enought to me

Hot 125 (that's just over "Medium" in 1950 & 1960 washer) and to get hotter I have to select Boosted Hot

Warm 95 sounds almost tepid to me

Cold 60, sounds almost too cold.

These temps sound perfect for the PermPress cycle but I wish the set points for the regular cycle were about 5 or so degrees higher like on Hetties.