Should I try to revive my poor Maytag Atlantis?

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murando531

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A while back I posted a thread showing photos of the Maytag Atlantis I have that has been at my father-in-law's house the past 2-3 years.

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?54054

Remember when I said it was in still excellent condition, but that they weren't taking very good care of it? That was an understatement. A very HORRIBLE understatement.

Long story short, because we haven't been going over there much in the past year or so (the mother in law, Brandy, has some starkly contrasting political and religious views that are beyond unbearable), I haven't been able to keep tabs on just how badly they were treating my washer. So, fast forward to now, they're moving into her mother's old house, who already had a fairly recent Whirlpool DD set ( nice one too, God help its soul with those sloppy people), and I had to make the choice whether they put it on the road, or I brought it home finally after all these years. And I'm heartbroken.

I'll post pictures later when I can, but I've never seen a washing machine that filthy. I've already taken it apart down to the bare outer tub, and spend my entire Sunday scrubbing everything out in the driveway. I've never seen so much gunk buildup in my life, and I kid you not, no exaggeration at all, it smelled like a sewer. Like a storm drain that has gone stagnant, but ten times worse, with a hint of cheap dollar store detergent to make it worse.

The worst of it though is that it's slinging amber colored grease from underneath. When they moved it, there was a square of goop under the machine, and the smell is unmistakable. The part that has me livid is that they noticed it a year into using it, but figured it was "nothing major since it still worked fine" so they didn't tell me anything about discovering it.

I have no earthly idea how it has been running still this whole time. It agitates and spins perfectly, but since I've had it on the slab of our garage, you can see little droplets appear every second or so on the ground around the cabinet. Running it for a few minutes gave a nice little sprinkling. It's also caked around the inside of the undercarriage from the belt slinging it out.

As far as I can tell, despite the disgusting shape it was in, everything else is fine. There are some fine white shavings around the suspension inside, but it doesn't squeak or squeal, and it still stops in a split second as always. I also don't know if maybe just the transmission seal needs to be changed, if that's even a thing that can be done. Like I said, it still operates perfectly. From what I can tell the agitation isn't slipping at all either. I can't find where the oil is leaking because inside the actual machine, there isn't a drop. It's only underneath. Today I may try taking the drive pulley off.

I know that to most, it's silly to try and keep a 2002 washing machine, especially since transmissions are $250 at the lowest to buy brand new. But it does mean a lot to me. A quick history: back at the time, I was going into 6th grade, and our KitchenAid DD had just died. We didn't have much money back then, so we saved for a few months and I'm pretty sure my parents used saved income tax money, and we went to the actual Maytag Dealer store in Tuscumbia AL, and all agreed and picked out this machine. After that, a year or so later my dad had an accident at work, ruining his back, and for four or five years during the battle for disability and a lawsuit against Advance Auto Parts and workman's comp, my mom was the sole bread winner working two jobs. So, I was the "mom" of the house, and did all the laundry, dishes, yard work, everything. And mowed yards when I could for $20 or so and used that to help buy house supplies and help with utility bills and such. My dad and I also didn't get along much after everything happening. He changed alot. And despite how hard I worked and still kept my grades up in school, my parents didn't really treat me the best. This washer was part of my escape. I loved doing all the work of the house and actually asked my mom just to let me handle it all so she could rest when she was home from work. I was always so meticulous with everything, but I'd spend an hour every few weeks deep cleaning the machine. I kept that thing immaculate. So all these years later after my dad has passed away, and all the history of what has happened with my family over the years, this washing machine is one of the three items I have left from when I had a "semi-normal" life with my parents and brother as a family of my own, as sadly my mother doesn't speak to me, and my brother now spends most of his time getting mixed up in the wrong crowds, to say the least. So despite the possibility of this being a hassle and a money pit, I don't want to just throw those memories out on the road if I don't absolutely have to.[this post was last edited: 8/29/2016-14:15]
 
Wow

That last paragraph just broke my heart a bit. Sadly, I think I understand you far to well.

Sure, you can save it. Everything can be done.

Not knowing if you could service the transmission, it is most likely the only part so much oil could come from.
You could try to hunt craigslist etc. for a used machine with a somewhat good transmission and transfer that. Might be cheaper then a new one, and could certanly work a good few years with light use before it dies.
You could even just swapp the housing and control panel if you find a close enough match, as far as I understand. That would save some of the hassel of cleaning, possibly never getting the smell out if it is actually THAT bad.

Even if - for what ever reason - you have to let it go with no way out, please don't let it go on a bad thought.
(Even though it might seem strange to some to say that about a washing machine:)
Just keep all the fun times you had in mind and see it as an opportunity to move on into a new chapter in life. It is really really hard to part with the physical reminders sometimes, but you must never forget: Just because they are gone, it does NOT mean that memorys and lessons are gone.

I really hope you find a way to save it.

Best of luck
Henrik
 
I have actually junked more than one of those that the transmission locked up on and had thrown grease all over the floor.
 
hate to see any machine go beyond repair......

and some are beyond re-building capabilities.....

not to say, toss it out......but instead, two factors....save the whole machine, or parts (control panel-wiring, motor, solenoids, pump and hoses)...

who knows, you may search and find another machine, with a good base, and transfer the control panel over to it.....what better than to have the one you remember so well...

granted it wont be the actual born with body you started with......but that control panel alone will bring back great memories for you, and a working machine to enjoy for years to come...

we have swapped panels for many machines....even to upgrade a lower unit....

keep us posted....
 
The memories alone would have me to keep it.... Price isn't a factor with stuff like that and a washer is something easy enough to keep/move and use in daily life
 
The beautiful seal on the lid is still shiny as ever.

Buy a small curio frame to mount the seal in and... well, you already know the rest of the story.
 
Another example of no good deed goes unpunished! What a shame that your in-laws are so disrespectful of you and your property. My first thought after reading down to the part where your family scrimped and saved to purchase this Maytag was, by all means keep it and clean it up and make the neccesary repairs, since it has sentimental value for you. But after reading down through your entire post my heart just went out to you over the bad memories you also have about your own family relations. If it were me, even though I really do appreciate keeping older applainces in service, I'm afraid I'd let it go to charity, and let them clean it up.

And I sure as hell would never lend anything to those slobs again. When some people don't have to pony up the do- ra- me they just don't give a damn how they treat someone else's carefully maintained property. Let them buy their own damn washer! And I certainly hope this hasn't caused any strife between you and you spouse.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 8/29/2016-23:30]
 
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Yes!
The most rewarding endeavors are rarely if ever practical.
Money is dangerously simple and linear leading us by the nose into a boring unfulfilling existence.
If you can swing it cost wise I say go for it.
 
The sewer smell is pretty common on a lot of machines, but seems more noticeable on Atlantis & Performa washers.  It seems a lot of gack can get built up in the tub-to-pump hose & the drain hose.  The tub tops seem to get really filthy as well.  We sold a lot of these machines new & rehabbed & sold a lot of them used as well.  At one time, we had over 125 of these sitting in the warehouse pushed to the back and we kept getting DD machines done to resell.  Well, when that supply ran out and my contacts for these machines moved on, we decided to start getting the Herrin-built machines done.  A lot of these machines stank.  A good soaking and cleaning did the trick.  You might want to do a snubber job as well.   We do that to all of these we resale.  Just beware of the heavy brake spring.  It could hurt you if not done correctly.
 
It sounds like money is no longer the issue chap.
I would certainly rebuild it...... For the price of a new machine. Which you'll mostly be getting. And I strongly believe it'll give you several more years of trouble free nostalgic use.
:)
 
Thanks guys. The hubby and family that do know me well have said the same things. And this will be the first repair of any kind whatsoever on the machine, so I think that speaks volumes. In addition to it STILL RUNNING.

So, sorry for the delay. First, a Memorial Photo, when I first brought it to my apartment a few months after my dad passed away and my mom was having to move into her parents house (who had both passed away in the same year as my father), and she asked me if I wanted it since that was "my thing", lol. When I got it I disassembled it down to the outer tub and gave it a good washing, but it had minimal buildup, primarily around the tub ring. Nothing compared to what you're about to see.

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And now the before pics, direct from the Hell it was living in to my garage.

In person was much worse than pictures can show, plus the smell. I took a short video (using Snapchat and saved it but of course forgot to take an actual picture) of the agitation and spin, as well as the black mold and brown grease and fabric softener residue built up inside the agitator. I'd love if we could upload short video clips as part of the photo uploader on the site here. I may splice them together in a quick YouTube vid soon.

I will have to get a new basket hub gasket, but as far as I can tell the seal and bearings are fine. The snubber has telltale shavings but there is no indication of it giving problems yet, so my main focus is just finding the transmission to start with.

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YAY!

IMO, the Atlantis series was the most gorgeously designed top loader ever created. It really stood out in a sea of utilitarian, white boxes.
It's run was sort of short, but thank goodness we had it.
Even if some of the internals were not the best.

This to me has that feeling of a very unique, 60s luxury car with personality.
 
Now after cleaning. Annoyingly, because my hands and arms were covered in water and soap for over three hours, I didn't take many after pictures, primarily of the outer tub and basket walls. Since I'll have to take it apart again I can grab some pics at that point. I did clean all the gunk from around the drive assembly and blew all the water out with the leaf blower before setting the tub back into place. Even without the hub gasket it seats fine for now. The agitator had black mold growing on the underside as well, but like the tub ring and basket, Bleach-White tire cleaner broke up the gunk quite nicely. Just with a ton of scrubbing and spraying with the hose.

I may never return the tub to it's pearly white color, but at least it's not as yellowed as before.

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I really do adore this washer. Some give it flak for being technically a "Norge", but it's so well built and has such a unique design. I never had a single issue with how it washes or performs. We always got compliments when new company came over because the washer was in the corner of the kitchen.
 
:-0

Oh my......labor of love if I've ever seen it.
I literally don't understand how humans living can get things like that.
 
Now for the actual nightmare. This is as of about an hour ago.

Do not ask me how this washer has been running, agitating and spinning as though nothing is wrong for almost THREE YEARS, because I have absolutely no idea. On the concrete floor where it has sat for three days and in the few minute runs I've put it through, there's now a concentric circle pattern of oil splatter. At the rate it has been losing oil I don't understand how it didn't go dry ages ago, especially considering how badly it was treated and how often it was overloaded.

When I tipped it forward, oil began oozing from the trans pulley and dust cap that had been filled. I grabbed some rubber gloves and a paper towel roll and some plastic bags and began wiping/sopping up as much as possible.

So far I've removed the pulley and washers and cleaned as much as possible, and the pulley and belt are soaking in a bucket of a sh*t ton of Dawn dish soap, just to try and break up the grease. I suppose the one positive thing about the absolute layering of oil is that the metals and belt are all preserved in good shape. Very little rust in just a few spots, but otherwise most of it should shine up nicely.

The rubber feet are sheared nearly off, so I'll have to figure out a replacement for those if everything else is a success.

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