Via C&F, more about them later....
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I love surprises. Don't keep us in suspense too long, L!
Dishwasher? Dryer? Ironer?
Dishwasher? Dryer? Ironer?
Surprise...
Its a new Posser & Broomstick my bet!!
Its a new Posser & Broomstick my bet!!
I had no idea what a posser and broomstick might be. The posser is the cone at the bottom. No points for guessing the broomstick part, LOL.
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Hey that's what I use to agitate my soaks in a bucket. Toilet plunger.
Ok, here's the payoff
As one is wont to do was searching around CL in various states seeing what there was when something caught my eye. More importantly seller had misspelled name of item, which to my mind explained why it wasn't moving. An action plan was needed....
Contacted seller and made an offer including arranging to have item collected and shipped. He accepted (though in hindsight should have gone lower, but still), and agreed to payment via PayPal. Now for the shipping...
Listing on UShip brought a few decent offers but the best (read cheapest) kept coming "can do it this morning......" which always arrived long after one had checked the bidding first thing AM and had moved on to rest of day.
This went on for a few weeks after payment and seller wanted thing gone and one was anxious he might come to his senses so that left the dreaded Craters and Freighters.....
Their quote wasn't too unreasonable, about ten to twenty percent more than lowest Uship bids. However when you factor in the surcharge Uship attaches to accepted offers the margin narrowed..
After a few weeks reasonable Uship bidders dried up so it was C&F in the end. They were contracted to collect, pack and ship item via "one of their freight shippers.." so out came the Amex. It promptly went back in again as C&F does not accept charge cards so was stuck using MasterCard..
Then they tried to do me! Came back with a final bill vastly higher than original quote. When inquired what was their game it was explained the dimensions furnished by Moi were "off" and upon arrival at their offices after collected mandatory measuring gave a different number. Pointed out where and how one came about the measurements and after some back and forth the original bid was honored.
That was the last one heard from C&F.....
A week or so later came home one evening and found that pictured *huge* crate blocking the hallways in front of our door. Turned out C&F's "shipper" was FedEx Ground! Apparently since no one was home they just shoved the thing indoors and left. No signature requirement, no tracking information, no communication via email, text, or telephone regarding ETA and or to confirm delivery date. Anything could have happened.
One tends to avoid FedEx Ground as they are a franchise/route operation and quite honestly some of the delivery boys look fresh from JuVee. That and because unlike say UPS the thing still isn't tightly integrated. Anyone with cash can purchase a FedEx ground route and many do owning several. For the $$$ one paid C&F rather expected more but suppose they did do me a service in collecting and crating the thing so that's me for you.
After changing clothes and armed with a large box cutter began to wade into tons of cardboard and Styrofoam. In the end was left with this:
As one is wont to do was searching around CL in various states seeing what there was when something caught my eye. More importantly seller had misspelled name of item, which to my mind explained why it wasn't moving. An action plan was needed....
Contacted seller and made an offer including arranging to have item collected and shipped. He accepted (though in hindsight should have gone lower, but still), and agreed to payment via PayPal. Now for the shipping...
Listing on UShip brought a few decent offers but the best (read cheapest) kept coming "can do it this morning......" which always arrived long after one had checked the bidding first thing AM and had moved on to rest of day.
This went on for a few weeks after payment and seller wanted thing gone and one was anxious he might come to his senses so that left the dreaded Craters and Freighters.....
Their quote wasn't too unreasonable, about ten to twenty percent more than lowest Uship bids. However when you factor in the surcharge Uship attaches to accepted offers the margin narrowed..
After a few weeks reasonable Uship bidders dried up so it was C&F in the end. They were contracted to collect, pack and ship item via "one of their freight shippers.." so out came the Amex. It promptly went back in again as C&F does not accept charge cards so was stuck using MasterCard..
Then they tried to do me! Came back with a final bill vastly higher than original quote. When inquired what was their game it was explained the dimensions furnished by Moi were "off" and upon arrival at their offices after collected mandatory measuring gave a different number. Pointed out where and how one came about the measurements and after some back and forth the original bid was honored.
That was the last one heard from C&F.....
A week or so later came home one evening and found that pictured *huge* crate blocking the hallways in front of our door. Turned out C&F's "shipper" was FedEx Ground! Apparently since no one was home they just shoved the thing indoors and left. No signature requirement, no tracking information, no communication via email, text, or telephone regarding ETA and or to confirm delivery date. Anything could have happened.
One tends to avoid FedEx Ground as they are a franchise/route operation and quite honestly some of the delivery boys look fresh from JuVee. That and because unlike say UPS the thing still isn't tightly integrated. Anyone with cash can purchase a FedEx ground route and many do owning several. For the $$$ one paid C&F rather expected more but suppose they did do me a service in collecting and crating the thing so that's me for you.
After changing clothes and armed with a large box cutter began to wade into tons of cardboard and Styrofoam. In the end was left with this:
Yes *another* Pfaff Ironer from Europe...
How the thing got on these shores do not know. Am guessing it came off a yacht or something and someone (the dealer one purchased it from) wanted to make some money.
Paid $200 for the thing which in hindsight may have been a tad high but was caught up in the excitement I suppose.
Thing is when one found the listed "Pfaff" was misspelled! This is probably why no one came upon the thing. Pfaff ironers are in hot demand on this side of the pond with the latest Singer version not quite up to standard.
Upon uncrated it became clear why C&F tried to do me with a higher final shipping price. Despite words to seller and themselves no one bothered to fold the ironer down into its storage/shipping position. Yes boys and girls the thing was crated and shipped upright! Don't know if it is a testament to German quality design and or craftsmanship, C&F's crating/packing or a combination of all but the thing arrived undamaged.
Now have been on the hunt for another Pfaff ironer for ages now but no luck. Only units ever found were in Europe and shipping out of Germany was not on.
How the thing got on these shores do not know. Am guessing it came off a yacht or something and someone (the dealer one purchased it from) wanted to make some money.
Paid $200 for the thing which in hindsight may have been a tad high but was caught up in the excitement I suppose.
Thing is when one found the listed "Pfaff" was misspelled! This is probably why no one came upon the thing. Pfaff ironers are in hot demand on this side of the pond with the latest Singer version not quite up to standard.
Upon uncrated it became clear why C&F tried to do me with a higher final shipping price. Despite words to seller and themselves no one bothered to fold the ironer down into its storage/shipping position. Yes boys and girls the thing was crated and shipped upright! Don't know if it is a testament to German quality design and or craftsmanship, C&F's crating/packing or a combination of all but the thing arrived undamaged.
Now have been on the hunt for another Pfaff ironer for ages now but no luck. Only units ever found were in Europe and shipping out of Germany was not on.
So without further adieu
Unit scrubbed up well! After that a careful examination showed areas of minor damage (paint chips and some peeling), along with small spots of rust and of course wear and tear. The rusting tells me the thing was either kept in a damp climate or used under such conditions for a long time. Hence the yacht reference. In any event the old girl has been badly treated IMHO. Her soleplate is very scratched which is evidence of repeated ironing of metal such as buttons and zippers. Despite being a later model then my current Pfaff ironer this machine obviously has seen more wear. No matter she now has a loving home and is in good hands...
Unit scrubbed up well! After that a careful examination showed areas of minor damage (paint chips and some peeling), along with small spots of rust and of course wear and tear. The rusting tells me the thing was either kept in a damp climate or used under such conditions for a long time. Hence the yacht reference. In any event the old girl has been badly treated IMHO. Her soleplate is very scratched which is evidence of repeated ironing of metal such as buttons and zippers. Despite being a later model then my current Pfaff ironer this machine obviously has seen more wear. No matter she now has a loving home and is in good hands...
After being all gussied up another problem surfaced
What's this then?
Those whacky Swiss! Why must they always do things differently?
I can fix that....
What's this then?
Those whacky Swiss! Why must they always do things differently?
I can fix that....
Volia!
Yes, I learned a lot from that French magician; there was nothing he didn't know.
Yes, I learned a lot from that French magician; there was nothing he didn't know.
Needed to sort out a roll cover. Happily had a spare that was fitted onto my other Pfaff ironer that was removed due to needing mending. That ironer has an 85cm roll whilst this is about 63cm. So out came the Pfaff 1209 sewing machine, tape measure and scissors... and volia encore... We have a new cover.
Will take some snaps of the finished product later.
All this means one now has *four* ironers...
Frigidaire (vintage)
Ironrite (vintage fold down portable 890)
Pfaff 858
Pfaff 658
Not to mention two Hurley ironer presses (one is going to be sold soon as can take snaps for a CL or eBay listing), and a Elnapress.
Will take some snaps of the finished product later.
All this means one now has *four* ironers...
Frigidaire (vintage)
Ironrite (vintage fold down portable 890)
Pfaff 858
Pfaff 658
Not to mention two Hurley ironer presses (one is going to be sold soon as can take snaps for a CL or eBay listing), and a Elnapress.
Congratulations, Launderess! It's in beautiful shape. Sorry you had a crappy shipping experience. Props for your electrical expertise.
One of these days I need to watch a video of someone actually using an ironer. They're awesome but a mystery to me.
One of these days I need to watch a video of someone actually using an ironer. They're awesome but a mystery to me.
Posser
Actually the best and most efficient of such hand washing devices resemble famous "Jet Cone Action" of Frigidaire washing machines. Indeed where do you think they got the idea?
Mine has small holes around the base so as one pushes down water is forced out.
Others versions have more of a cone shape with channels. Again the idea is to force water up and out.
For what it is worth many vintage laundry manuals didn't think much of using a posser for washing. Rinsing OTOH was fine.
Actually the best and most efficient of such hand washing devices resemble famous "Jet Cone Action" of Frigidaire washing machines. Indeed where do you think they got the idea?
Mine has small holes around the base so as one pushes down water is forced out.
Others versions have more of a cone shape with channels. Again the idea is to force water up and out.
For what it is worth many vintage laundry manuals didn't think much of using a posser for washing. Rinsing OTOH was fine.
Congrats on the new arrival!
Very nice - I didn't realize there was a Pfaff roll-ironer made with a lower ironing plate. I can't wait for you to review this one for us. I've been using a Miele (new) ironer once a week for a while now and love it, even better than the Ironrite - but don't tell Jetcone!
Out of curiosity, isn't this unit (according to the label) 240v 50hz? Didn't you just put a 120v 60hz plug on? How's that going to work?
How well do rotary irons work? We've become a Miele appliance dealer and are required to order one for the first order. They are scared the iron or washer/dryer pair won't sell so they are wanting me to commit to buying them. Given my love for the brand... :/
Anyway congrats on the acquisition, thankfully it was undamaged during shipping.
How well do rotary irons work? We've become a Miele appliance dealer and are required to order one for the first order. They are scared the iron or washer/dryer pair won't sell so they are wanting me to commit to buying them. Given my love for the brand... :/
Anyway congrats on the acquisition, thankfully it was undamaged during shipping.
I HEARD THAT GANSKY !!
Now whats all the fuss over Miele?? Where is their sole plate ??
Now whats all the fuss over Miele?? Where is their sole plate ??
Plug is a Nema 6-20P
250v/20amp plug so appliace will work on American 220v-240v power.
As for the 50hz vs 60hz I knows stuff about this ironer, remember already own another Pfaff mangle.
Here are some more snaps of another unit being sold in the Pfaff's native territory.
250v/20amp plug so appliace will work on American 220v-240v power.
As for the 50hz vs 60hz I knows stuff about this ironer, remember already own another Pfaff mangle.
Here are some more snaps of another unit being sold in the Pfaff's native territory.
Here is some sales information for both the Pfaff 858 and 658.
Pfaff as known when these ironers were produced no longer exists. As those of us who sew and use Pfaff machines know the once great German company has been sold several times. Main difference between the two models is the width of the bugelwaltz (roller); in the 858 it is 33" and the 600 series has 26".
http://www.mangelwaren.de/Pfaff-858-steam-ironing-machine-rotary-press
http://www.mangelwaren.de/epages/63430572.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63430572/Products/P9
Consumer Reports tested rotary ironers from the late 1940's through mid-1950's after which they vanished from ratings. In CR's last report they stated that due to low sales many models had been discontinued and that they themselves were no longer bothering. Ironically what you see start seeing more reviews of by the early 1950's was the appliance that helped kill off ironer sales; the tumble dryer.
Anywho CR stated that in general ironers that used the underfeed method (Ironrite and Bendix were the only two models sold in USA at that using such a principle), gave the best results on items most likely to be ironed at home; flatwork. These units were also less fatiguing to use since the operator does not have to reach up/over a roll to feed items into the machine. CR went on to say generally despite all the fancy claims most ironers were best at flatwork. While one in theory could do things like shirts and other sorts of apparel results varied by the skill of operator and design of machine.
Would say of all my ironers the small Ironrite 890 portable is used the least. Whle it does offer single lever control instead of the more common dual knee paddles, without a speed adjustment one must resort to stopping and starting. Also the small width of roller makes the machine useless for anything but the smallest flatwork such as napkins or pillow slips. Everything else must be folded to fit which causes problems on many levels.
Commercial ironers all heat from below which is natural since heat rises as Ironrite made so clear in their adverts/marketing. Pfaff took the superior Ironrite design and made updates/improvements along the way. Indeed there is a small Pfaff portable ironer that looks almost just like the Ironrite 890.
Singer/Pfaff now sells a steam ironer here in the USA IIRC, though it may have been discontinued. The only other steam ironer for the domestic market is sold by Miele.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pfa..._AUoA2oVChMIxMTZk6PoxwIVRguQCh1F4QUa&dpr=1.56
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5gcAg1CbAg
Pfaff as known when these ironers were produced no longer exists. As those of us who sew and use Pfaff machines know the once great German company has been sold several times. Main difference between the two models is the width of the bugelwaltz (roller); in the 858 it is 33" and the 600 series has 26".
http://www.mangelwaren.de/Pfaff-858-steam-ironing-machine-rotary-press
http://www.mangelwaren.de/epages/63430572.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63430572/Products/P9
Consumer Reports tested rotary ironers from the late 1940's through mid-1950's after which they vanished from ratings. In CR's last report they stated that due to low sales many models had been discontinued and that they themselves were no longer bothering. Ironically what you see start seeing more reviews of by the early 1950's was the appliance that helped kill off ironer sales; the tumble dryer.
Anywho CR stated that in general ironers that used the underfeed method (Ironrite and Bendix were the only two models sold in USA at that using such a principle), gave the best results on items most likely to be ironed at home; flatwork. These units were also less fatiguing to use since the operator does not have to reach up/over a roll to feed items into the machine. CR went on to say generally despite all the fancy claims most ironers were best at flatwork. While one in theory could do things like shirts and other sorts of apparel results varied by the skill of operator and design of machine.
Would say of all my ironers the small Ironrite 890 portable is used the least. Whle it does offer single lever control instead of the more common dual knee paddles, without a speed adjustment one must resort to stopping and starting. Also the small width of roller makes the machine useless for anything but the smallest flatwork such as napkins or pillow slips. Everything else must be folded to fit which causes problems on many levels.
Commercial ironers all heat from below which is natural since heat rises as Ironrite made so clear in their adverts/marketing. Pfaff took the superior Ironrite design and made updates/improvements along the way. Indeed there is a small Pfaff portable ironer that looks almost just like the Ironrite 890.
Singer/Pfaff now sells a steam ironer here in the USA IIRC, though it may have been discontinued. The only other steam ironer for the domestic market is sold by Miele.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pfa..._AUoA2oVChMIxMTZk6PoxwIVRguQCh1F4QUa&dpr=1.56
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5gcAg1CbAg
