Something new has found its way to Ogden...

[turquoisedude]

Or should I say something old??    As part of their road trip, Mike (dishwashercrazy) and Todd (varicyclevoice) played the part of delivery people (There will be a detailed thread about their trip soon) and crossed over into Canada for a visit this past weekend.  

 

And a 'hitchhiker' jumped in the truck with them...

 

What can this be?  A 'Deluxe' something or another, it would seem!

 

[turquoisedude]

Oh, it looks like it was made by General Electric.  What a coincidence - I collect GE appliances!!

 

Whatever can this be??  I'll go out to the garage and see if I can find more clues...   Any ideas in the meantime??

 

[toploader55]

The "Deluxe" Logo...

Was on my Grandmother's Single Dial GE Washer and Dryer.

My Money is on a Washer or a Dryer (Clothes Scorcher).

But then again, my gambling luck really sucks.

Then again it's that dead ringer for a I think 1954 machine.

 

[philr]

I know it's not a GE Deluxe fridge (like the first I ever owned) as it would have been posted in the Super forum!

 

I'll have to investigate that in person soon!

 

 

[aldspinboy]

 

Ooooh my my I Know !

This IS A GOOD ONE PAUL LOL.

 

[jetcone]

Bastards!

What is it??

That curved corner tells me washer/dryer! Hmmph!

 

I don't recognize that GE logo though! Hmmph ! 

 

I don't think GE used the term "Deluxe" on anything pre-Automatic, so this is a GE Automatic!

There mystery solved!!

 

 

Bastards !!
 

 

 

Or maybe its one of those Canadian-thingys --you know parallel universe GE??

Like the Mercury Meteor??? Talk about parallel !!

 

 

 

[bajaespuma]

It's wonderful

I know what it is 'cause I already saw it "en charrette"; but I'm not gonna tell.

 

[turquoisedude]

Well, there are some sharp eyes out there!!   

 

Eddie, you win, because you spotted it first.   

 

Phil, what a coincidence, my first GE fridge was also a deluxe, but it's not a fridge. 

 

Darren, I know that you know... You got a sneak preview, didn't you??  

 

And so did you Ken (and thank you for the information about it that Mike passed along to me!!)

 

Jon, I swear it's not Canadian.  But it's Automatic for sure!! 

 

[gansky1]

Soooo, it's a freezer then?   LOL  

 

[turquoisedude]

No, Greg, I'd have to post in Super...  

 

Oh, silly me.  I forgot the photos I took yesterday...  

 

[gansky1]

Yay!  Pictures proving it's not a freezer.

 

This is a very cool washer, pre- Filter-Flo but an overflow rinse to make those whites sparkle.  Congrats on a very good find.

 

[turquoisedude]

It is indeed a pre-Filter-Flo washer!  It's a model 1 WA 450K1,  Serial Number 3219960.   It's a two-belt model, 0ne-speed, One-Cycle.  The 'K' in the model number would date it to 1953;  I believe that this model and the 1954 'L' models are pretty much identical.   

 

I was astonished to see the 'crown' flexible pump coupling and the clutch assembly above the motor this early on!

 

Power cord and hoses were gone but I did a little creative rewiring anyway.... 

 

 

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[turquoisedude]

After a couple of attempts, look what happened when I tried powering it up!   This video is live and unedited, graciously shot by Mike as I futzed around!!

 

 

[turquoisedude]

I have more video of the machine agitating, pausing, then going into a spin again (the Rinse portion of the cycle) but I'll need to edit that before posting it. 

 

Ken passed along some interesting information to Mike about this washer - the water level control kicks in based on how much is detected by a control in the agitator.   I've never seen anything quite like it!!  There is a 'Water Saver' button, though, that would allow you to start agitation at any time (ie - how I did the 'dry activation' test). 

 

The tub is in surprisingly good condition, too!!

 

 

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[turquoisedude]

So, what's next??

Although I was thrilled to find the machine runs,  I will still have plenty to do before I make a slot in the Ogden Laundry for this one.  

   

First of all the motor needs an overhaul.  I had some trouble getting it to start up, so I suspect the bearings are swimming in goo.

 

Second, I will assume all water seals are shot.  I'll bet the turquoise Lady K that the tub boot is dried out and will leak like the proverbial sieve if I was to put water into this now.  I expect I will also need to carefully inspect and likely replace any seals around the water level control.  

 

Third, I think it may be wise to do an overhaul of the transmission.  This machine has been sitting unused for a LOOOONNNNG time and I fear the transmission oil may be as thick as the 'Speed Queen Molasses' that Jon posted about recently.   

 

So, for once,the turquoisedude is NOT blindly running into a restoration project with high hopes and band-aid solutions that ultimately have to be redone (I learned that much from the seemingly-never-ending Inglis and GE Combo projects).   

 

Now, here's what I am fishing for...  I would like to get the service manual for this washer before I start in on it.  If anyone has a lead on one or sees one up for sale, please let me know!!  

 

One very positive note - the timer works!!  I said a novena to Sonny Service for that... LOL    In the meantime, though,  I think I have information to get the motor out and send it to my buddies in Magog for a once-over!   Stay tuned!!     

 

[toploader55]

My Gram's Washer

OMG, OMG, OMG !!!!!!!!!

She had a piece of plastic taped over the Water Saver button because she used to get shocked with her wet hands from pushing the clothes down in the water.

Love the roar of the pump while washing and rinsing.

More later.

Congrats Paul. I love tht machine. The matching dryer was on CL last winter. I'll send you the pic later

 

[turquoisedude]

Yes!  I saw that dryer in CT as well, Eddie...  In Trumbull, was it?  Anyway it`s gone now, dammit... 

 

[jamman_98]

WOW

Ok What's the backstory on getting this machine? Where was it? Who had it? etc.

I was looking at Robert 1947 GE he posted pictures on a while back and it looks like the water travels down the inside of the agitator to activate the agitation just like Robert's. There's a 6 year difference between the machines but I would bet you may find some similarities in them. I do think a service manual before deconstruction would be wise on this project.

Jamman_98
Joe

 

[ken]

Paul

Lucky dog. It amazes me how others here are lucky in finding the machines they have. Id be interested in the details too of you finding and acquiring this.

I posted the CL ad here for that matching dryer that was in Trumbull, CT. It had a price of $49.00. I gave some thought to getting it myself but didnt feel like driving out there to get it.

 

[aldspinboy]

 

That is a very very Nice washer Paul.

That is insane that it starts to spin in four tries. 

Is that still a Rude Goldberg design 

like Roberts machine ?

Pictures to follow.

Darren k

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[turquoisedude]

Joe, Ken - do you remember a thread that was up in Shopper's Square for a group of "Antique 1937 Appliances"?  I had commented that one picture seemed to show what I thought was a 1954 GE washer.  Well, I was pretty close!  LOL

John (combo52) generously agreed to get the washer for me and when Mike and Todd were in Beltsville last week, they loaded 'er up and brought 'er to Ogden.    The house was a beautiful Tudor-style, apparently.  Owned by a well-to-do doctor, there were several older but leading-edge-for-the-time appliances (there was a 1946 GE dishwasher and very early Frigidaire/Hamilton dryer).  The house had simply not been updated and the original items remained.  The new owner is, of course, renovating and did not want to keep them.  

 

Ken, I went back to see if that dryer was still around and it isn't...  That doesn't mean I won't ever find one, though!!

 

Darren,  yes, that agitator is very much like Robert's.  Not sure who exactly designed it - I don't know a lot about these earlier GE's.  Glad you got a chance to 'meet' the new team member in person!!  LOL 

 

 

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[swestoyz]

Very cool Paul!  I'm glad this worked out for you.  I did not know the early belt drive GE's had two belts!  I'm guessing one for spin and one for agitation? 

 

Ben

 

[revvinkevin]

Yet another vintage machine for you!

 

 

Hey Paul, CONGRATS on the new acquision!   Looks like another fun project.

 

I saw your video right after you posted it this morning, first view!

 

Very kewl!   YAY!

 

Kevin

 

 

 

[toploader55]

Oh, Paul,

I definitely have to get up to hear and see that machine run. I have never forgot the sounds that machine makes. I was almost afraid of it when I was about 4 years old listening to that pump roar.

Of course I overcame that in a jiffy. LOL

I believe the overflow rinse lasts from the beginning of the rinse cycle up to the last minute of the agitation of the rinse cycle. During that last minute the pump "clears it's throat" for the "DRY" cycle.

As I recall, it has a really decent spin speed. It's not 1140 RPM or is it ?

 

[hippiedoll]

awesome vintage GE!!!

i can't wait until you get this puppy all fixed & up & running!!! i want to see this baby in action!!!

best wishes for an easy restoration!!!

keep us posted on your progress!!

;o)

 

[toploader55]

The Mate...

I knew I had the Dryer somewhere

 

[jetcone]

Very cool machine find Paul

That tub looks to me to be in great condition as does the activator cap !! Vacuum it OUT Wanda !!

 

Eddie is right that roar is you pump bearing. I think Larry has these in stock.

 

Unbelievable with 4 tries you got it started!  

That was Nancy Smith's machine and is the one I am popping my head out of in my avatar. They disassembled theirs because the oil seal went on the tranny and oil was getting up the center post into the tub and spotting the clothes. They bought a new 1960 TOL machine and I got the tub top to play with.

 

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[tennblondie78]

That is the best avatar ever. You are so cute in that pic!

 

[jetcone]

Thanks!

Stephanie. It took me awhile to find that picture. I was 5.

 

 

 

[dishwashercrazy]

Hello Paul and everyone,

It has been so chaotic here at home since returning from my (along with Todd) trip to the Northeast, that I just have not had any time to compose my trip report. Please be patient with me. I'll try to get it up this week. In the meantime:

Todd and I stopped in Parma and visited for three hours with Larry and Ray at Modern Parts. Sharon arrived just as we were about to walk out the door, but took time to shoot this picture of she and Larry. The second photo shows the two parts that Larry had for the 1WA450K1 GE Washer: WH8X58 Seal Assembly, and WH23X39 Pump. No boot, or Agitator Bearing, or control dial.

Mike