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Robert! This is Awesome! You have captured so much!
Did you get it on video?
I just love the new see through front! I have always wanted to see this machine in action. And you did it for us!
What fun!
Thanks for sharing!
That WALL OF WATER IS AMAZING! I have never seen it in a still picture, or in Video.
Did you nab a video of it running?
I wonder why Hobart, and other "big boy" dishwasher names did not make a film of there dishwashers running? This would have been awesome on the big screen, and in color for a housewife.
Thanks!
Brent
 
Robert you are sooo good at working with appliances! I'm envious! Very, very cool pictures... it's not every day you see inside a running dishwasher.
 
Oh Robert, you did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You talked about it when we were all together last weekend
UNBELIEVABLE, BETTER THAN IMAGINED!!
The ultimate in machine fun and drama.
Wow, that was quick!

hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
This is an idea that needs some publicity.
Imagine windows in all diswashers.
Look what it did for front loading washers.
Who in their right mind would buy a front loading washer WITHOUT a window. ( ....Shutter!!)
What, no visual drama.

Next, lightings has to be a standard.
Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It just needs a switch.
Along with a timer and a dimmer.
NO, an LCD that will do anything you want.
(just went over the top!!)
I don't think I want to use my dishwasher for anything other than visual "walk away" drama.

Robert,
Can't wait to see it in person.
Great Job!!
Pat
 
That might be a fun machine to have in the kitchen for a change.
That is true Robert but the good thing about that machine is that you will be running it almost daily because of its size. Are you planning on painting it pink??
 
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This is a cool job you did with your KitchenAid. I always wonder why they don't put windows in dishwashers. That way, you could tell when something was hitting the wash arm. And, give the kids something to entertain them.
 
OH! Thats too cool!! Way to go Robert, now thats a "flat screen" lol!!
 
082&083 spooky, ethereal, water ghosts--FABULOUS

How in washer-gods name can you make a machine pump that had no pump, no pulley, no terminals--nada? Your gifts make me pull on my nipples, my head loll back and forth, and my eyeballs spin around in my head!!!!!!;'D;'D;'D
 
RONALD MC- mickyd

"Your gifts make me pull on my nipples, my head loll back and forth, and my eyeballs spin around in my head"

I would like to see that sometime.
Perhaps a you-tube vid?
... or something kinky, on x-tube.
 
Hey Robert,

What is the exact Cycle time on that machine ?
I have the Owner's Book out for my KD2-P and it says the total cycle time is 43 Minutes. 1.5 min Warm up, 1.5 min. Fill, 7 min. Wash ,1 min.Drain,1.5 min Fill, 2 min "Power Rinse", 1 min. Drain, 1.5 min Fill, 1 min. "Final Power Rinse" (I love the "Power" because it is) 1 min Drain, and "Sanitized Hot Air Drying" 24 min. (1,000 watts of course)

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Eddie I believe my cycle is exactly the same.

Greg that is a cool video, BUT my wash arm spins at at least double the rate of the one shown there, according to the manual its suppose to go 100rpm and mine goes at least that. I wonder if that machine is a 14 and the rate is slower, or if there isn't enough water in there????? (but that would be dishonest lol)
 
Keep Pullin' Missy

How in washer-gods name can you make a machine pump that had no pump, no pulley, no terminals--nada?

How could I have missed that comment in my post above lol. I simply wired it in series with the motor, so whenever the dishwasher pump motor is running my drain pump runs as well. Water doesn't drain out during the wash and rinse because the drain solenoid is closed.
 
If you have...

The "tuned ear", You can recognize the RPM sounds. I know my Kenwhirl,Kds 18, Mobile Maid, all my washers , and DishMachines. I bet that Wash Arm does do 100 RPM. The KDP moves a little when it starts, but I think the centrifugal force of that cast iron spinning, evens out the rocking motion of the portable. And I really think and to me the Cast Iron Wash Arms are truely quiet.

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Maybe, maybe not......

Robert said:

"whenever the dishwasher pump motor is running my drain pump runs"

Robert, there maybe an available terminal on the timer for the drain pump, that your machine was not originally equipped with. Wouldn't that be nice?
 
Robert, there maybe an available terminal on the timer for the drain pump, that your machine was not originally equipped with. Wouldn't that be nice?

Hi Leslie, nope there is not. The timer had two issues with it, the first increment of wash wasn't working and the first increment of the 1st rinse wasn't working. So I took the entire thing apart and gave it a complete overhaul. There was no extra terminal, besides the drain pump in this machine was connected to the main motor from below and didn't use an separate electric pump. At least that is the way my KDS-14 is.
 
Sorry, Lads... but no!

No special connections on the timer for a drain pump. These units were built with motors which accomodated a drain pump that was bolted to the botton of the motor housing and engaged a pin driven thru the rotor shaft below the ball bearing.

Ed(Toploader) should have some pictures he can add here to show the drain pump assy.
One picture is worth a thousand words. Good suggestion to have a connection there but it just never was done.

Most machines used some solenoid setup like these did to hold the water in the tank or a drain solenoid like the later models with the water driven out of the machines by means of a drain impeller.

I dont think they ever had a drain pump of any kind on the original machines as that had a horizontal motor and a lift up drain standpipe which allowed the water to drain when the solenoid energized.
Ed, that pump resembled the SM 6 pump setup which I amsure you are familiar with but still used the big blue washarm found in later models.
If anyone has any info to the contrary on this I would love to see it.
 
Robert,
Thanks again for the pictures!
The second picture of the water shots is my favorite! You can just see the power of this machine!
Fun!
Brent
 
I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!

As soon as I am able, I want a 12-series Kitchen Aid, and the window just adds to the fun. Robert, I think you should sell window doors for all appliances.

Creativity and good Kitchen Aid engineering wins again!
Dave
 
So it works like a unimatic

with the pump "hard-wired" under the motor. I get it. Thank you. So easy and so nice when you gifted men explain it.

In R's photo, I missed the side-mounted white pump at the botttom of the screen !!! Duh! so transfixed by the cool mechanicals, forgot to scroll down.
 

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