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Oh, somehow this got deleted:

Cit.
"So you would say that a more packed load would dry as if it was freely to swish in a bigger drum?"
Please point out to the EXACT words where I said such a stupid thing.

Cit.
" You state that an heat pump can eleminate all the moist to the air before being put in recirculation making it totally dry...."
Same here, never said such a thing.

And to finish, I became arrogant only because I wanted to prove a point. That saying is very true: stupid will take you to his level and then beat you with experience... shouldn't have engaged in such a conversation!
 
What got deleted?

"Please point out to the EXACT words where I said such a stupid thing. "
"About size: I'm talking about weight of the load not volumes. Weight the average European 6 kg load and tell me if it's bigger or smaller than the average American "large volume" load and get back to me. We had this discussion in the forum millions of times already. You can have a drum of 6 cubic feet, 10 or whatever you want. As long as the power heating and airflow are sufficient you can have fast drying times."
So if not this what you ment there?

And: " You state that an heat pump can eleminate all the moist to the air before being put in recirculation making it totally dry...."
Same here, never said such a thing."
Well you didn't but looked like you tought so, or at least you forgot on purpose to put this in your considerations and "reasoning".
BTW I can see from your profile you don't even own a dryer![this post was last edited: 8/5/2012-12:16]
 
So American dryers are rated, I don't think so, have a look at the official relevant page.
Are not rated in letters like in europe but their labels show what the average consumption in $! So you can easily get an Idea!
Your link is such unuseful!

At this point I'll avoid commenting about all the insults you threw all over me, maybe you should lower your head and keep silent.
Insults????' Where you can see the insults???
You might better keep your mouth closed, better say fingers tied as over being such an IGNORANT person you're very arrogant and rude! I got angry reading your bullshits also but I never got to call you stupid or give you any kind of TRUE insults as you did, for unless the ones that in your buggy head they looked so!
This is another proof you're such an ignorant person as rudeness is synonymous of ignorance!
 
Insults????' Where you can see the insults???

And you would be an engineer??? Well if you studied in Italy it probably is......I offended you now? Well I just don't care, I just said the truth as in Italy everyone can BUY a degree!

Here you are, served. Isn't that insulting enough?

Cit. "So if not this what you ment there?" (about load volume and drum volume)
Yup, not what I meant, I was just trying to say that as long as all the factors are proportionate you can have a drying time as short or as long as you want. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

And please, could you show me one of those energy tags that show price and energy use of the dryers? I've yet to see one. I'd be glad to be proved wrong. Everywhere I just read that in the USA they're not rated and even pointed out something that backs up my claims.
 
And somehow the phrase where you said I was either ignorant or drunk disappeared... magic of editing...
I was just going to quote that!
 
Yes it was and wanted to be an insult! And it was after you

So just calm down!!! I think we're civil people expressing opinions! No need to insult anyone!
I gotta admit and aplogize about labels for dryers, you're right dryers and range and stoves are not rated, I confused with dishwashers, but this does not mean that it is because they're less energy efficient than european ones as you say! They're not rated Simply because they all have an average consumption wattage that is similar to all of them!
On average electric american dryers use about 4kwh, so 4000 watts.....
So of course they use more energy than their european counterparts per time but actually they are much faster, and way more capacious...
For example when I had to dry a load from my Filter-flo in my old Europeam dryer rated 7kg (Exquist brand made by White Knight) 2700 watts I had to divide it in 2 loads so it used to take over 3 hrs for it, while in US using electric dryers used to take 35-40 minutes for the same load......
And I say no heat pump dryer will be as good on performances and anyway the electric saving you could get will not be much worth it...

[this post was last edited: 8/5/2012-14:47]
 
For dj-gabriele and kenmoreguy89

May I kindly suggest the same politeness and mutual respect that we all do our best to apply here?

May I note that, despite the technical interest, the tone of the exchange makes this discussion impossible to read?

May I add that, as far as I can remember, one-to-one discussions are not a sign of the finest "netiquette"?
 
Well that one appeared just for a minute, then I wanted to d

Too bad that I didn't edit out my rude parts... otherwise mine would have been the smartest and most polite post ever, I just started replying following your tone.

Editing out is just too simple.

Anyway, as donprohel said, back on topic!
 
Anyway, as donprohel said, back on topic!

Well after claiming that I edited all the rude parts.... "back on topic" Wow! My compliments really!
I just edited that sentence all the rest is how it was, and anyway insulting is just different from being "rude" and I'm wondering how people can understand a tone from a text ....... anyway earlier posts and response are there to be read, I don't think I have been rude for first.
Anyway I've been wrong and unrespectful towards others members and I apologize from my side again with everyone who may get thru this thread and ours discussions.
Sorry.
 
Well

Perhaps you may learn from the responses you get and why you have had to apologise to more than one longstanding member...you do come across as strong, rude and agressive in your writing tone - BUT - I can forgive you as you like Servis Supertwins....Lol

Back to HEAT PUMPS..the main factor will be energy costs and long term savings again depending of the country you are from and the energy tariffs being charged, having used the V-Zug you do have to get used to them operating slightly differently from a condenser....and with condensers they are more maintenance than a simple vented option,

I find them to be quieter and quicker to dry than previous Asko condenser, my only gripe was I used to want a fast turnaround of 6 king size beds after a houseful of visitors and with mixed cotton bedding I would spin everything at max extract 1600rpm, any creases would then drop out on the LOWER Heat in the Asko condenser, with the Zug heat pump because there was hardly any moisture the heat pump had done its job very quickly resulting in no heat build up so creasing stayed...I got round it by spinning at lower speeds but in my eyes it was IMHO a step retrograde.

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I just can't get any sense from it......
Please what you mean?
If you wish I ask you to send an email so we will not fill this thread with others off topic things, but I just want to understand what you ment....
I don't think being rude or having rude ways of doing, at least nobody never said me that......
Please I'd like to understand.
Thanks
 

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