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I just saw this video from an enthusiast. Says we're expecting to get new models from SQ shortly but with bigger tubs. Also they're expanding with their new facility in Texas which I never heard of until now. And said some things that were misleading like the 10 year warranty, they're currently not offering that at this time. What do you think? Are we getting new models soon? To me, I'm not sure. I know with tighter restrictions we have currently and since this guy hasn't answered some of my questions, I find it hard to be true.

 
I don't understand why

For decades, the 3.2 cu ft tub would be considered very large and enough for even large families for a top loader. How many people actually have a king sized comforter? Then you can get a front loader which SQ makes.

Somehow, there must be a way to separate the tub and agitation in the TR models to make them wash better. It seems like SQ could quietly do that in upcoming models and that way its not admitting a mistake too much.
 
Reply #2 hits it on the head regarding the capacity thing. I've never understood the need for those mammoth 5 cu. ft. and over top load washers. My 3.2 cu. ft. traditional top load washer handles very large loads on a regular basis and I can't imagine needing to wash bigger loads than this. On top of that, those huge top load washres especially the impeller versions won't wash effectively if they're filled much beyond halfway so capacity is actually more or less the same. I'm not sure any top load washer can wash a king-size comforter very well but if we're really honest with ourselves how many people actually own one, and of those who do, how often do you really need to wash it? If you really have the need for room to do giant loads or king-size comforters you should probably have a front loader, although even in that case I'm not sure anyone needs much more capacity than, say, an old Whirlpool direct drive will hold. I think people who can truthfully say they regularly wash 20 large bath towels at a time are the minority. So I guess what I'm saying is Speed Queen will likely find that increasing the capacity of their top load washers won't increase actual capacity very much, so the current models are probably just fine.
 
Not to sound like this, but they keep on making machines bigger and bigger since people seem to be too lazy and negligent these days to separate laundry by color and soil level. By the time you separate everything, it’s not a very large load. The people who keep on demanding these machine then start complaining why their white socks and shirts are coming out dingy, gee I wonder why. When you wash very dirty clothes with clothes that are lightly soiled, they aren’t going to get properly cleaned since the filth if you will is just moved to different clothes and everything won’t be cleaned to it’s fullest potential.
 
Capacity

We recently moved. Installed in the new house was a BOL Roper DD. Capacity wasn't as bad as I expected, but we were doing loads of towels 2x a week. Now that we have the KenLG installed again, I can safely say that the 20 towels per load are completely normal for us, and not to mention how much it saves in water, electric, detergent, and time. That might be a part of SQ's goal here. A larger tub would likely appeal to the average consumer, as well as (potentially) increasing score on CR testing.
 
Hate To Say It

Capacity is the #1 consumer driver since the inception of automatic washers.

 

And behind the death of all good, long lasting washers.

 

 

The dual action agitator is what made Whirlpool so popular, the super capacity was what got model Ts into so many homes, larger capacity tubs are what put Maytag out of business, the relatively small tub ended the Frigidaire Unimatic, giant loads are what made FLs a common buy. 

 

Every time I've been on the sales floor of an appliance store I've overheard people make their final decision based on capacity.

 

Little do people know that you can only put in so large a wash tub before you sacrifice every other component of the machine and its ability to actually clean. 

 

If what the vid is saying is true Speed Queen is trying to compete with Whirlpool, GE, LG, ect which I can see ending the way it did for Maytag. Large capacity washers but with many downfalls because people are to vapid to realize nothing good comes out of reinventing the wheel. 

 

If everyone was like me the Maytag DC would dominate and everyone would agree all the extra capacity is just not worth it.

 

I sort clothes, and I wash in divided loads. I can fit a comforter in my Queen and it washes well. I have never had a need for a larger wash tub.
 
@neptunebob-

 

Jerome has worded it better than I can. But I think it boils down to the fact people hate doing laundry and let everything pile up until there aren't any clean clothes, towels and bed sheets available. They then stuff everything into one load, dry everything in one load, then repeat the cycle.

 

If it all fits, and it all appears reasonably clean, then the average consumer doesn't see anything wrong to get bothered by.

 

Me- I sort loads into bed sheets, delicates, undergarments, comforters, rags, jeans/shirts/socks, hang dry, ect.

 

Each load gets its own cycle and temperature.

 

Bed sheets go on warm (colored) or hot (allergy, white sheets). Washed in the Permanent press cycle because of the first spin being slow.

 

Rags, very dirty towels, soiled underwear, and socks are washed in hot. Heavy time, regular cycle, two or three Tide pods. 

 

Jeans in warm wash, regular cycle.

 

Shirts, average towels, pants, ect warm wash regular cycle. 

 

Undergarments, dresses, panties, cold or cold topped with warm, delicate cycle, Woolite detergent.

 

Nightgowns, casuals, ect warm wash delicate cycle.

 

Comforters washed in hot water, delicate cycle then set to one final spin on the regular cycle before being put into the dryer. 

 

Soak cycle as a prewash for heavily soiled items, will pause the timer if extra soak time is needed.

 

Water level set to match the load size.

 

Extra rinse if needed. Softener added to the final rinse if desired.

 

One Tide pod works 90% of the time, two or three if the load is soiled enough.

 

It works. No larger tub necessary. 

 

 
 
I watch the full seven minute video

There was only about 45 seconds worth of information there, I would conclude by saying the guy doesn’t know s..t.

It’s really sad how little people in the Appliance industry know, the TR and the TC tub is the same for example, and if you want a big Speed Queen today, it’s called the frontload Speed Queen it will do a larger load then the Toploader, and even the new Toploader that they may bring out now and you don’t have to wait for it.

This guy has a lot of phobias and weird information, I would not plan on ever watching one of his videos again.

John.
 
sorting laundry properly

People still don't get it when it comes to sorting laundry properly. My family has always sorted laundry properly even with huge loads. My 3.2 GE that I had handled it well, shockingly considered how cheaply well it was built. It all boils down to how much laundry detergent, fabric softener, and bleach you use depending on what you're washing. I'd rather do laundry properly than shove everything into 1 unsorted load on cold water.
 
how I do laundry

This is how I do my laundry and it goes like this:
Whites: hot wash, normal cycle, heavy soil with bleach.
Light colors: warm wash, normal cycle, heavy soil.
Dark colors: cold wash, normal cycle, heavy soil.
I use fabric softener on everything when desired. I use it all the time.
I use however many pods according to the soil level or size of the load.
1 for small to medium loads, 2 for large loads, and 3 for super loads.
If people would just pay attention to what they're doing, we wouldn't be in this position of getting bigger machines. Most people are just too stupid when it comes to laundry. Stuffing everything into a giant load, washing everything on cold... I could go on and on.
Don't even get me started on poor maintenance. What do people expect?
 
Capacity

I have to say that capacity was the deciding factor on our recent purchase of LG. We have king sized comforters and large dog beds needing weekly laundering at least.

My heart was set on a Miele washer and dryer, but after seeing them in person, my heart sank knowing that my husband would never go for it. Even the Miele Little Giants are the same capacity as their W series washers, which amazes me. If Miele would ever make large American-sized units, that would be the dream.

With that being said, I also am a believer in separating laundry, and picking cycles and temps according to color, fabric, soil, etc. whenever called for.
 
Miele's previous attempt at uber-sized American style washers was model 48xx which was by most accounts a disaster. Indeed Bosch also tried their hands about same time with NEXXT large washer and they too had issues. Both Miele and Bosch withdrew their large machines subsequently and haven't bothered since.

Largest size Miele washers sold in USA hold about 20lbs of wash. This is about same rated capacity as smallest offerings from commercial/laundromat machines such as SQ, Dexter, and so on.

Miele does have their "professional" range of washers and dryers available in some countries, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.



https://www.mieleusa.com/e/professional-laundry-technology-1015700-c

What sets "Little Giant" line of professional washers and dryers separate from their domestic cousins among other bits is duty cycles and cycle times.
 
Not wishing to stir old pools, but what exactly do Americans have laundry wise that they insist on huge H-axis washing machines.

As stated smallest commercial/OPL/laundromat washers start at range of 18-24lbs, that is buckets of capacity for most normal household use.

In Europe and elsewhere most households long have sent big or bulky things out to laundries or use larger washers at laundromats. IMHO this seems a far more practical solution than frequently turning to domestic washing machines that may or may not be able to cope with being pushed into such routine service.

About 11kg is top range for front loaders in Europe, which again seems like buckets of capacity for normal purposes.

 
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