I have a newly purchased SQ AWN 432, already re-set the water level to a higher level, worked great. The "warm" wash setting is disappointing. Cool is more like it. I have a drilled well with extremely cold water here in New England but I suspect the proportioning valve that mixes hot and cold is a bit off. Anyone ever investigate what kind of device mixes hot and cold water in this machine and if it is adjustable?
Speed Queen AWN 432 "warm" water not warm
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a few options......
keep in mind, a SQ injects water in front and behind the inner tub....pay no attention to some flow rates.....I took mine apart and sealed the rear port so all water sprays on the clothes....
you could always adjust your cold water valve on the wall if you have seperate faucets....
OR
reverse hoses and wires on the valve to make the HOT dominate....
OR
take out the screen on the HOT side, and drill out the restrictor to the same size, or maybe a little larger than the COLD side......just don't drill thru the whole valve...
perform any one of these at your own risk....
this time of year is a little difficult to keep temps warm.....my water heater is set at 160.....right now in Jersey the well water temp is 45......its taking a lot more HOT water to get a WARM temp to anyones liking.....during the Summer, its not so bad...your mileage may vary
keep in mind, a SQ injects water in front and behind the inner tub....pay no attention to some flow rates.....I took mine apart and sealed the rear port so all water sprays on the clothes....
you could always adjust your cold water valve on the wall if you have seperate faucets....
OR
reverse hoses and wires on the valve to make the HOT dominate....
OR
take out the screen on the HOT side, and drill out the restrictor to the same size, or maybe a little larger than the COLD side......just don't drill thru the whole valve...
perform any one of these at your own risk....
this time of year is a little difficult to keep temps warm.....my water heater is set at 160.....right now in Jersey the well water temp is 45......its taking a lot more HOT water to get a WARM temp to anyones liking.....during the Summer, its not so bad...your mileage may vary
mrb627
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Hoses
I would recommend the reversing of the hoses and wires as that is reversible if it is of to your liking.
Drilling out the valve is a one shot deal that may solve your problem or maybe not.
Other wise, simply fill your machine half way with straight hot water then switch to warm.
Malcolm
I would recommend the reversing of the hoses and wires as that is reversible if it is of to your liking.
Drilling out the valve is a one shot deal that may solve your problem or maybe not.
Other wise, simply fill your machine half way with straight hot water then switch to warm.
Malcolm
I have a similar issue with my 2008 Frigidaire Affinity, and my city water temperature hovers around 50 degrees.
On the warm setting, the Affinity doesn't mix the water at the valves. It sends through alternating streams of hot, warm and cold water -- mostly cold. I don't know what they were thinking when they put in a temperature sensor that thinks "warm" means "refreshing." I rarely use the warm setting as a result. Since the machine is quite a distance from the water heater, I use the "hot" setting and don't run the tap at the adjacent laundry sink beforehand, which results in a warm water wash.
On the warm setting, the Affinity doesn't mix the water at the valves. It sends through alternating streams of hot, warm and cold water -- mostly cold. I don't know what they were thinking when they put in a temperature sensor that thinks "warm" means "refreshing." I rarely use the warm setting as a result. Since the machine is quite a distance from the water heater, I use the "hot" setting and don't run the tap at the adjacent laundry sink beforehand, which results in a warm water wash.
jerrod6
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All manufacturers building for the USA market are thinking Energy Star ratings. Hot is warm by design, warm is cold by design this is no accident or malfunction. This is the way it will be for the foreseeable future and at some point there may not be anything anyone can do about it as far as tweaking their machines.
Even the Miele 3033 or 4842 will not heat to the specified temperature unless the extended option is selected although this is more the fault of the weak 120V heater that is in the machine---- but hey--- they get in the range of an energy star rating
Even the Miele 3033 or 4842 will not heat to the specified temperature unless the extended option is selected although this is more the fault of the weak 120V heater that is in the machine---- but hey--- they get in the range of an energy star rating
Don't Know If It Is Just Energy Star
IIRC the federal government and perhaps even soon California is setting energy use standards for washing machines and dishwashers in 2013 regardless of Energy Star ratings. Could be wrong though.
Either way may order a new washer in January 2013 before new "improved" models start showing up.
IIRC the federal government and perhaps even soon California is setting energy use standards for washing machines and dishwashers in 2013 regardless of Energy Star ratings. Could be wrong though.
Either way may order a new washer in January 2013 before new "improved" models start showing up.
Malcolm is right. Start the washer filling with HOT, add the detergent and the clothes, then when the tub is about 1/2 full switch to WARM. You might have to vary the ratios to find what you like. If it has a thermostatically controlled water valve, it might not work to adjust the faucets.
New SQ TL Washer Fill Valves
On the warm setting you get 70% cold and 30% hot water, you can just turn down the cold supply valve if you like but it will make the washer fill more slowly. You can also drill out the hole behind the screen on the hot side of the valve so it is about the same as the cold side as Martin suggests or as Tom suggests just let the washer fill partly with hot water then switch to warn for the remainder of the wash fill. Drilling out the inlet orifice this will also make the machine fill much faster on the hot setting. You can also replace the inlet valve with a 50-50 valve for less that $30.
One should never set their water heater temperature for anything over 140 and 120 is even better. Doing so poses a huge risk to people using hot water in sinks and showers, to say nothing of the accelerated damage that such high temperatures cause to the water heater and all plumbing and appliances that this hot water passes through. It is also VERY costly to run any water heating system this hot except an all solar system.
On the warm setting you get 70% cold and 30% hot water, you can just turn down the cold supply valve if you like but it will make the washer fill more slowly. You can also drill out the hole behind the screen on the hot side of the valve so it is about the same as the cold side as Martin suggests or as Tom suggests just let the washer fill partly with hot water then switch to warn for the remainder of the wash fill. Drilling out the inlet orifice this will also make the machine fill much faster on the hot setting. You can also replace the inlet valve with a 50-50 valve for less that $30.
One should never set their water heater temperature for anything over 140 and 120 is even better. Doing so poses a huge risk to people using hot water in sinks and showers, to say nothing of the accelerated damage that such high temperatures cause to the water heater and all plumbing and appliances that this hot water passes through. It is also VERY costly to run any water heating system this hot except an all solar system.
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or you could possibly replace the fill valve with an older speed queen model, say ten years old? or even a part number of a valve from an old raytheon machine? i have been wanting to do it with my frigidaire top load, it is soooo annoying! warm is basically cold in winter and not even room temp in summer!
or you could possibly replace the fill valve with an older speed queen model, say ten years old? or even a part number of a valve from an old raytheon machine? i have been wanting to do it with my frigidaire top load, it is soooo annoying! warm is basically cold in winter and not even room temp in summer!
> One should never set their water heater temperature for anything over 140 and 120 is even better. <
I understand the need for caution, but anything under 140F is unsanitary, 120F is nothing short of disgusting. If you have problems with poor cleaning in your clothes washer and dishwasher, inadequate water temps are the most likely culprit.
I understand the need for caution, but anything under 140F is unsanitary, 120F is nothing short of disgusting. If you have problems with poor cleaning in your clothes washer and dishwasher, inadequate water temps are the most likely culprit.
One other thing to consider is that if your washer is in the basement or a cool utility room, the tub and all the parts are going to be colder in the winter and will pull more heat out of the water so starting the fill with hot water will give you a a bit of a hedge against the temperature drop that is going to happen even with what used to be considered warm water as well as deal with the cold water sitting in the hot water pipes.
jerrod6
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I think the Energy Star program is administered by the Department of Energy thus = Federal Government. This conservation program has been going on for years at least since the mid to late 2000's(2004 to 2008).
I noticed that these 2013 recommendations were reached with input from several groups including consumer representatives. Three years ago I downloaded the minutes of meetings from the Energy Star website. These were meetings to discuss Energy Star recommendations for 2012. There were a lot of meetings and minutes to read through but in the end what jumped out was that the consumer recommendations and even some of the manufacturers comments regarding the danger of extremely low use of water in cycles....or the fact that some machines could heat their own water from cold providing savings in hot water at the appliance vs at the central hot water heater, were ignored and the reductions implemented anyway.
I can't imagine anything about this process has changed for 2013.
Fixing things via plumbing. I hope so but I who can know?
Many machines now have ATC control which measures the water temperature. Using this method it will be possible for the machine to reject water that is hotter than it is programmed to use in the cycle....thus an error condition or cycle cancellation. Perhaps manufacturers will not resort to this but it is possible to do.
I noticed that these 2013 recommendations were reached with input from several groups including consumer representatives. Three years ago I downloaded the minutes of meetings from the Energy Star website. These were meetings to discuss Energy Star recommendations for 2012. There were a lot of meetings and minutes to read through but in the end what jumped out was that the consumer recommendations and even some of the manufacturers comments regarding the danger of extremely low use of water in cycles....or the fact that some machines could heat their own water from cold providing savings in hot water at the appliance vs at the central hot water heater, were ignored and the reductions implemented anyway.
I can't imagine anything about this process has changed for 2013.
Fixing things via plumbing. I hope so but I who can know?
Many machines now have ATC control which measures the water temperature. Using this method it will be possible for the machine to reject water that is hotter than it is programmed to use in the cycle....thus an error condition or cycle cancellation. Perhaps manufacturers will not resort to this but it is possible to do.
Imagine, a government agency gathering citizen & industry expert input and then ignoring it.
pierreandreply4
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or there is always the option to rely to cold water washing me i mostly wash in cold water and never got a problem and my next washer will be set to cold water wash only
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50-50 valve?
Combo52 said in Post# 651337, reply 8 "You can also replace the inlet valve with a 50-50 valve for less that $30."
Where can I get a 50-50 valve?
Combo52 said in Post# 651337, reply 8 "You can also replace the inlet valve with a 50-50 valve for less that $30."
Where can I get a 50-50 valve?
