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Speed Queen Combo
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warmsecondrinse
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Congrats! That is beyond cool.
When you mentioned the spin speed my knee-jerk response, "Wow! I think that beats all its rivals save Bendix."
Since my memory is correct ..... How did Speed Queen get around the patents Bendix was holding onto and produce that 500+ spin? What was the Hotpoint's spin speed?
A few years ago there was a thread on spin speed <--> moisture extraction. It was focused on contemporary FL's but data for 250rpm vs 550 might be extrapolated from that data.
Best of luck!
When you mentioned the spin speed my knee-jerk response, "Wow! I think that beats all its rivals save Bendix."
Since my memory is correct ..... How did Speed Queen get around the patents Bendix was holding onto and produce that 500+ spin? What was the Hotpoint's spin speed?
A few years ago there was a thread on spin speed <--> moisture extraction. It was focused on contemporary FL's but data for 250rpm vs 550 might be extrapolated from that data.
Best of luck!
kb0nes
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Extraction force
varies with the square of the RPM making spin speed more critical than the spin basket radius.
Of course relative extraction will depend on time at speed and maybe basket design etc.
Online calculator to punch numbers in for reference
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/technical-documents/articles/biology/g-force-calculator.html
varies with the square of the RPM making spin speed more critical than the spin basket radius.
Of course relative extraction will depend on time at speed and maybe basket design etc.
Online calculator to punch numbers in for reference
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/technical-documents/articles/biology/g-force-calculator.html
Nuclear Power
Maybe Chetlahan will get off his combo machine soapbox when he sees this Speed Queen combo and its 4,000 watt dual drying heaters above the rotating basket. Sounds like nuclear power to me. Congratulations on the acquisition.
Maybe Chetlahan will get off his combo machine soapbox when he sees this Speed Queen combo and its 4,000 watt dual drying heaters above the rotating basket. Sounds like nuclear power to me. Congratulations on the acquisition.
warmsecondrinse
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Thanks for the info. I'll check the link after work.
IIRC, the guy did the experiment did them all on his machines at home. He gave all the numbers he used for his calculations (basket size, dry weight of the bath towels, etc.) to ensure it was as much an 'apples to apples' comparison as possible.
I think the extraction vs rpm relationship was pretty linear from his low end starting point up to 1400rpm, above which the curve started to flatten. That's why I'm thinking one could extrapolate downward to 250 vs 550.
I'm afraid I'm going to make much more sense beyond this unless I either find the thread or get really physic- and statistic-y........
Jim
Thanks for the info. I'll check the link after work.
IIRC, the guy did the experiment did them all on his machines at home. He gave all the numbers he used for his calculations (basket size, dry weight of the bath towels, etc.) to ensure it was as much an 'apples to apples' comparison as possible.
I think the extraction vs rpm relationship was pretty linear from his low end starting point up to 1400rpm, above which the curve started to flatten. That's why I'm thinking one could extrapolate downward to 250 vs 550.
I'm afraid I'm going to make much more sense beyond this unless I either find the thread or get really physic- and statistic-y........
Jim
WOw Phil
39 grams of force 515RPM versus 189gm @1140.
Man that bearing set is loud !!
39 grams of force 515RPM versus 189gm @1140.
Man that bearing set is loud !!
Unfortunately, the condensation system of the dryer is a passive blower-less system consisting of a small stream of cold water spraying on a plate at the rear of the outer tub. Air circulation is provided by the rotating cylinder. In the Philco combos with this type of condensing system, drying times were much longer than in the models with a blower to move the air past the heaters, through the fabrics and then through the condensing spray.
Re # 35:
Imagine what it is at 1400 in my Miele!
Imagine what it is at 1400 in my Miele!
Speed Queen Combo
Hi Eddy , great to see you back & posting and now with another Speed Queen addition, really glad you managed to save it although at that weight a truss and hernia is to be avoided lol..amazing whats still lurking around ready to be given a loving home again.
Looks in great nic but with the usual hoses and wiring to be checked and replaced, the suspension struts look substantial, look forward to seeing it wash spin & dry, but perhaps spin out in a spin dryer or TL before drying.
Cheers, Mike
Hi Eddy , great to see you back & posting and now with another Speed Queen addition, really glad you managed to save it although at that weight a truss and hernia is to be avoided lol..amazing whats still lurking around ready to be given a loving home again.
Looks in great nic but with the usual hoses and wiring to be checked and replaced, the suspension struts look substantial, look forward to seeing it wash spin & dry, but perhaps spin out in a spin dryer or TL before drying.
Cheers, Mike
mickeyd
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Extraction Factors ~
This is so interesting and illuminating: Have been using a direct drive WP and a large, perf tub GE lately; the lightness of the finished loads has been surprising to me since they both spin in the relatively slow mid 600's. Scratched my head wondering how is this possible? The Whirlpool tub goes very deep, while the General sports a wide girth with that legendary large outer tub; they both spin for six minutes, and lid-free, of course, mostly after warm rinsing. Now I get it: RPM is not the only play in the spin game--so many factors yet to be discovered. Ah, the mystery of physics.
Thank You, Philip. I'm not just "feeling things"*;'D--it's real !
* as in seeing things that aren't there.
This is so interesting and illuminating: Have been using a direct drive WP and a large, perf tub GE lately; the lightness of the finished loads has been surprising to me since they both spin in the relatively slow mid 600's. Scratched my head wondering how is this possible? The Whirlpool tub goes very deep, while the General sports a wide girth with that legendary large outer tub; they both spin for six minutes, and lid-free, of course, mostly after warm rinsing. Now I get it: RPM is not the only play in the spin game--so many factors yet to be discovered. Ah, the mystery of physics.
Thank You, Philip. I'm not just "feeling things"*;'D--it's real !
* as in seeing things that aren't there.
mickeyd
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Wow!
Can someone post pics of inner workings? And the wiring chart if it happens to be found? I wish they made something like this today. I'd love to use something like this.
Can someone post pics of inner workings? And the wiring chart if it happens to be found? I wish they made something like this today. I'd love to use something like this.
MickeyD, what's the dating of that WP DD?
mickeyd
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'93 or '94 Model # LSP 9245BWO
Regrettably, although I love this machine, the Resource Saver was available that year, but I passed on it because it did not have anywhere near as many buttons and dials, and was not paneled in dramatic black. Pathetic, I know, but true, LOL. Now, I would prefer the multiple spray rinsing Resource model which recirculated horseshoe-shaped spraying rinse water. Drain. Repeat 5 times, I think I read somewhere. John says he has one saved for me to buy one day.
Regrettably, although I love this machine, the Resource Saver was available that year, but I passed on it because it did not have anywhere near as many buttons and dials, and was not paneled in dramatic black. Pathetic, I know, but true, LOL. Now, I would prefer the multiple spray rinsing Resource model which recirculated horseshoe-shaped spraying rinse water. Drain. Repeat 5 times, I think I read somewhere. John says he has one saved for me to buy one day.
B = 1994 model year. It's a nice specimen.
MickeyD, that Filter Flo is AbFab!!! So much flexibility with those controls. Always thought it interesting that this was considered "inferior" to the Programmed models. Not so.
lawrence
lawrence
Age Of DD Washer
Hi Glenn, I though B was 1992, I could not tell if the serial # said B or E which would be 1995.
Hi Mike, could the reason this WP DD and the GE FF seem to extract so well may be because you are used to using the ringers on your WWs ?
Unfortunately I only have one Resource Saver left and it is going to stay here at the museum, I will look out for another if you want one, we still have a number of customers that have them.
John L.
Hi Glenn, I though B was 1992, I could not tell if the serial # said B or E which would be 1995.
Hi Mike, could the reason this WP DD and the GE FF seem to extract so well may be because you are used to using the ringers on your WWs ?
Unfortunately I only have one Resource Saver left and it is going to stay here at the museum, I will look out for another if you want one, we still have a number of customers that have them.
John L.
John,
<blockquote>'93 or '94 Model # LSP 9245BWO</blockquote> B is 1994 for the year designation in a model number of the timeframe, which is what MickeyD provided above -- LSP9245BW0. Clarity on the serial would confirm the production year.
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