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Regarding modern FL washers

Not only should manufacturers offer them in the mid-range 3.5 cu. ft. size, they should sell more stripped-down versions, just a few basic cycles, no app, and no WiFi. I believe there's a sizable market for washers that just do the job without a lot of fanfare. For example, and FL version of my basic Whirlpool TL. Same size tub and same options, but an FL instead. Sell it for about $600, and a lot of people would buy that I'm sure. The problem with FL's in the modern world is that even the basic models are too flashy, and just too damn big, so they skip over a large share of the appliance market that just doesn't want "all that." So those people say screw it, and go buy another TL. How do I know? Because my thought pattern was pretty much exactly this.

Ryne
 
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Ryne,

You took the words right outta my mouth, and very well said indeed!  If they sold basic, bare bones, mid size FL’s like you’ve suggested they would be flying off the showroom floors.  I’ve watched senior citizens in my age group looking at appliances in big box stores and spoken with many of them and for the most part they want no frills appliances.  Today’s selection of appliances have way too many bells and whistles that most sensible folks just aren’t interested in.

 

Its a shame that Frigidaire stopped making the FL’s that they came out with in the late 90’s and sold until about 2010.  They had 3.1 cu capacity which allowed the washing of large king size bedding with no problem whatsoever and they had simple controls allowing the user to select the wash temp and other options with the exception of water level which was determined automatically by the machine.  I owned two of these FL’s and I’m sorry that I ever let them go.  They got a bad rap due to the faulty use by many owners causing mold because they didn't leave the doors slightly ajar when not in use.

 

Eddie
 
blind users

As blind users, we are so frustrated with these stupid touch screens. If I want these electronics, I want buttons that I can feel that are in an organized fashion like my mom's LG set. It's just another way of these companies trying to keep us from contributing to household chores. Also, I want appliances that will speak everything on screen, especially since we rely on auditory feedback. Or give me voice control also. How hard is it to ask?[this post was last edited: 2/13/2024-23:10]
 
Best new front loading washers

I agree it would be nice if they made more of a midsize machine however a 2.4 ft.³ front load washer is plenty big enough to wash king size sheets and even a king size blanket, they will normally also wash queen size comforters. This is the size machine that used throughout most of the world And it does hold a big enough load when you compare a front load washer a top load washer a 2.4 ft.³ front load washer is it almost as big as a 5 ft.³ top load washer.

Laundry closets can present problems in some cases, but not all laundry closets are the same depth. I was working on us washer and dryer today and a 6 foot deep laundry closet. There’s no standard size, a Speed Queen top loader is actually deeper front to back than most of the basic whirlpool top loaders that are still being made for example,

The Speed Queen front load washer with the rear control panel has been discontinued. You might find some in stock somewhere. I wish they still made it because you could also pair it with the less expensive rear control panel dryer.

The link you provided Eddie reply number 23 has a lot of mistakes in it. They claim it’s 30 inches wide and 34 inches deep when it’s actually only 27 inches wide and 32 inches deep. They also say the machine with the rear control panel is stackable, lol.

There are a lot of reasonably priced full-size front load washers in the US my cousin and Elkhart just got a pair of Amana machines for 644 each for example, don’t be turned off by all the settings and cycles and things it doesn’t cost anymore to put extra cycles on a machine and it doesn’t add anything to the complication or likelihood of a breakdown until you get into having dispenser systems, etc. it doesn’t hurt the reliability of the machines.

Even Wi-Fi capable machines do not have more problems. You don’t have to connect them to Wi-Fi to use them either.
 
Sorry, I had no idea that the rear control panel SQ FL has been discontinued, thats the local SQ dealers mistake for listing it on their website, ditto the incorrect specs.

 

 I can’t fit a washer in my laundry closet thats any deeper than 29” tops, the Amana FL which I had considered at one point is 31” deep and we wouldn’t be able to close the doors on the closet when the machines weren’t being used, which is a no go.

 

I was already aware that 2.4 cf FL’s would be adequate for all of our king size bedding except the bedspread and if our current washer bit the dust we may consider one of those for our next washer.  I’ve done some research too. I still think that there is a market for a mid size capacity FL that currently is only being filled by SQ.  

 

Eddie

 
 
One beneficial thing with large drums is this:
Users would be much less likely to overload the machine..
I've figured out about how many dry clothes to add so that when they get wet there's lots of lift drop action....I can still add more clothes and it may not be considered overloaded...but the lift/drop action is reduced....

I guess I'm saying with larger drums you're almost always going to be assured of lift/drop action because the drums are so freaking huge.
 
It’s basically impossible to overload a front loading washer

You can fill the drum completely with dry clothes on any front load washer and start the machine. It will not be overloaded

Now if you load it with sopping wet clothing, you can overload it or if you stop it and keep adding clothing but that is not recommended with any front load washer, and that could cause problems.

In working on washing machines for the past 50 years, I’ve never seen a case where a customer overloaded a frontloading machine and caused any harm to the machine, a much greater problem is putting too little in the machine because it tends to increase vibration when the load is unbalanced.

The good thing is modern machines with their electronic controls, do a very good job of monitoring vibration, and it tends to keep the machine from hurting itself.

John
 
No.. It wasn't the case...It was a case of pushing it in...and lots of puffyness filling the drum...and almost no amount of water would make it tamp down...so it was basically just rolling...so never tried that again. I CAN easily wash a king bedspread... it's when you're dealing with something puffy and king size that's a problem.. But I can wash puffy king mattress pads.. no issues. This is an overly PUFFY comforter...

I find the 75% full of dry clothes is what I go for... Not only does it seem to wash perfectly but the dryer can dry them perfectly...

I've washed larger loads before and the dryer was too full...more wrinkling.

Even still... I figure I'm doing in 3 loads what would probably be five or possibly six loads in a traditional top loader.
 
It’s basically impossible to overload a front loading washer

Let me clarify, I’m talking about the danger of damage to the machine, you can overload any washing machine to the point where it will affect cleaning ability and rinsing ability however.

If you’re trying to wash extremely dirty things it’s always been good advice to load a little lighter, the big comforter that you put in the duet Mark would easily have cleaned itself even though it was rolling a ball. I mean, how did you wash it? You might even have to stop the machine and rearrange a time or two but it sure beats taking it to a laundromat.

Hi Mark, you had mentioned that you may not buy a pedestal again when you have to ultimately replace your washer but if you’re handy at all, you can reuse the pedestal on almost any other 27 inch front load washer I know of six Speed Queen front load washers that we’ve installed on whirlpool duet pedestals it’s not that hard to do you just have to attach it firmly.

John
 
I think I'm interested in a SF7 for my grandfather's cabin if the Neptune didn't survive from the flood. When I found out today by how much the insurance will give to us for any losses, we'd probably have more than plenty to buy a SQ. Preferably in the black color because I'm not really a fan of the color white. We'll see though
 
Oh really??? That's good to know my pedestal would work with a SQ....But the ONLY reason I think I don't want a pedestal is because from now on I'm sticking with standard dryers... and since the dryer isn't on a pedestal... I think it would look better if the washer weren't on one either. I honestly don't think I'd mind bending down to get things in/out. I don't mind for the dryer..

I will say that it's definitely much more convenient having them on pedestals when it comes to loading/unloading. It's almost like a luxury having that extra height...When I replaced my duet dryer with a standard one... it was a little getting used to but it's not that bad really
 

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