Hey everyone, just giving the heads up, I finally got the speed queen front loader hooked up and will be doing a series of videos, including a review and the ketchup test. Stay tuned!
Speed queen front load video series
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jcturbot
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Nice!
Always good to see a SQ Front Loader review and see what others think of this Washer. Looking forward to your ketchup test too.
That one Pod was a little overkill for those three microfiber towels but even with the one rinse used on the Quick Wash cycle (2 is default on other cycles),it appears to rinse out pretty well. You can get up to 5 rinses with the Second and Third rinse buttons both selected.
I had purchased the very same model SQ FL a month ago and have been testing each cycle out and will post my thoughts here as well.
Jeff
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Always good to see a SQ Front Loader review and see what others think of this Washer. Looking forward to your ketchup test too.
That one Pod was a little overkill for those three microfiber towels but even with the one rinse used on the Quick Wash cycle (2 is default on other cycles),it appears to rinse out pretty well. You can get up to 5 rinses with the Second and Third rinse buttons both selected.
I had purchased the very same model SQ FL a month ago and have been testing each cycle out and will post my thoughts here as well.
Jeff
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Making popcorn, Thanks 
Thanks, but...
Thanks for creating and posting these reviews but would you help us understand why you'd spend so much time filming and editing videos for a washer that is only available for another week?
I'd love to see a video series like this for the LG you personally use.
Thanks for creating and posting these reviews but would you help us understand why you'd spend so much time filming and editing videos for a washer that is only available for another week?
I'd love to see a video series like this for the LG you personally use.
speedqueen
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He posted videos of a 1978 Kenmore, which hasn't been available with the same agitator in 40 years, as well as a KitchenAid that hasn't been available with the large base DA agitator in at least 10, what is wrong with a washer that is still available for another week?
Still interesting to see how an SQ FL cycle works versus other manufacturer's machines. These are still available for purchase by commercial users as the Horizon commercial soft-mount FL. Technically you could buy one without a coin box and use it for residential use.
Here is a link to the SQ commercial version, note the controls tab, you still can get one with a dial type selector control.
Still interesting to see how an SQ FL cycle works versus other manufacturer's machines. These are still available for purchase by commercial users as the Horizon commercial soft-mount FL. Technically you could buy one without a coin box and use it for residential use.
Here is a link to the SQ commercial version, note the controls tab, you still can get one with a dial type selector control.
Good point speedqueen. I was just wondering what his thoughts were behind posting these videos. My thinking is he'll get everyone excited about this washer but then there is no way to buy one, unless you happen to find one in stock somewhere or get your hands on a used one
And his reviews of vintage machines make sense since they don't build them like they used to and he recommends people consider used machines.
And his reviews of vintage machines make sense since they don't build them like they used to and he recommends people consider used machines.
The stacked set will remain available, as well as the on-premise home style machines.
The answer why
1. The washer is still available and will likely be available for many more months. At $1500+. They aren’t flying off the shelves. I believe last year I sold a total of 6.
2. It was my last one and once I sell it, I will never be able to get another new one.
3. It will go down in history as the last residential washer ever built with true quality parts and ease of repair.
4. I’ve actually been meaning to do this review for months, but just got around to doing it.
Anyway, what do you guys think about the lighting?
1. The washer is still available and will likely be available for many more months. At $1500+. They aren’t flying off the shelves. I believe last year I sold a total of 6.
2. It was my last one and once I sell it, I will never be able to get another new one.
3. It will go down in history as the last residential washer ever built with true quality parts and ease of repair.
4. I’ve actually been meaning to do this review for months, but just got around to doing it.
Anyway, what do you guys think about the lighting?
Now I understand why you're taking the time to create these videos. I think the lighting is good.
BTW, I see why you like these so much. The wash action and balancing routine is top notch.
BTW, I see why you like these so much. The wash action and balancing routine is top notch.
The lighting is as good as it can be. A dark wash load and a white doorframe/cabinet inevitably create problems for most cameras. Most people will direct light right into the drum to alleviate this issue - or just wash bright laundry.
Current Generation SQ FL Washers
Thank you for this video Eugene, I really enjoy seeing them.
There is nothing like these anywhere in the world for home use at such a reasonable price with a full 5 year warranty
They sound and act like a real washer and they don't waste time trying to decide whether to spin or not.
It is truly a sad day that SQ is going to stop sales of this machine for residential use, there are still about 15 of these in warehouses in the DC area, we still have a rear control electronic model in the box and a gas stack and a SS pair [ electric dryer ] on the floor. Last year we sold 33 SQ FL washers.
Two weeks ago one of our customers got a new SQ FL to replace an LG FL washer that had only been used about 100 times because the machine reeked of cheapness and she found out is was Chinese built, I saw her husband last night and he was saying how happy she was was with a real washer again. Anyone want a deal on an LG FL Washer, LOL.
John L.
Thank you for this video Eugene, I really enjoy seeing them.
There is nothing like these anywhere in the world for home use at such a reasonable price with a full 5 year warranty
They sound and act like a real washer and they don't waste time trying to decide whether to spin or not.
It is truly a sad day that SQ is going to stop sales of this machine for residential use, there are still about 15 of these in warehouses in the DC area, we still have a rear control electronic model in the box and a gas stack and a SS pair [ electric dryer ] on the floor. Last year we sold 33 SQ FL washers.
Two weeks ago one of our customers got a new SQ FL to replace an LG FL washer that had only been used about 100 times because the machine reeked of cheapness and she found out is was Chinese built, I saw her husband last night and he was saying how happy she was was with a real washer again. Anyone want a deal on an LG FL Washer, LOL.
John L.
jcturbot
Active member
Eugene,
Any idea when that Ketchup stain test will be coming?
I'd like to see a comparison to the LG3770 you are currently reviewing as well as against it's SQ Top Load sibling.
Jeff
Any idea when that Ketchup stain test will be coming?
I'd like to see a comparison to the LG3770 you are currently reviewing as well as against it's SQ Top Load sibling.
Jeff
Well, there is two complications.
1. What’s left on the towel after my wash is usually a reddish orange. After a few days it turns a bit yellow. So now I can’t compare any towels until they are completely dry/ yellow.
2. I’m still trying to figure out how to present it. Should I do one video on all my ketchup results? One for top load, one for front load? I can’t really compare at the end of my ketchup video due to problem #1.
What do you think?
1. What’s left on the towel after my wash is usually a reddish orange. After a few days it turns a bit yellow. So now I can’t compare any towels until they are completely dry/ yellow.
2. I’m still trying to figure out how to present it. Should I do one video on all my ketchup results? One for top load, one for front load? I can’t really compare at the end of my ketchup video due to problem #1.
What do you think?
jcturbot
Active member
I see the issue-
Instead of the Ketchup test maybe a ground in dirt and/or grass stain test?
Set up both machines with similar settings and see how they compare.
Jeff
Instead of the Ketchup test maybe a ground in dirt and/or grass stain test?
Set up both machines with similar settings and see how they compare.
Jeff
There won’t be any stain left to compare
Based upon my experience with my SQ FL, I believe that if you use Whites cycle with prewash, maximum soil setting, both second and third rinse selected, cold water, Persil 2-in-one for the prewash and Persil power pearls for the main wash, with Clorox in the main wash, AND put it in with a full load of white towels so there’s decent tumbling action, the stain will come out completely. Betcha.
Usually the SQ FL waits until the main wash to add the Clorox, so the enzymes get a chance to work in the prewash before being fried with chlorine, but sometimes it empties the Clorox in the prewash, so now I wait and pour the Clorox in the drawer quickly when it starts filling for the main wash. You could also dilute it in a measuring cup and wait until 5 to 10 minutes after the main wash starts, and add it by pouring it into the main wash detergent compartment.
(I never use cold water except for tomato stains, which seem to get permanently set with anything but cold water. Cat puke/bile, though protein based, comes out with the above method with hot water and there’s no need to use cold).
Bottom line, if you know what you’re doing you can get that stain out completely in the SQ FL, but not in either the new or old SQ TL. The FL really does clean better than the TL if you load and dose correctly.
(Probably with the other FL makes, you could wash that towel alone and get proper tumbling and cleaning, since they sense the load and use less water with fewer items so you still get tumbling action. The SQ of course does not sense, just fills up all the way, and so a single item just rolls around in too much water and does not get clean.)
As always, laundry is subjective and some people out there will disagree with this, but try it! I betcha it’ll come out completely with my method.
Based upon my experience with my SQ FL, I believe that if you use Whites cycle with prewash, maximum soil setting, both second and third rinse selected, cold water, Persil 2-in-one for the prewash and Persil power pearls for the main wash, with Clorox in the main wash, AND put it in with a full load of white towels so there’s decent tumbling action, the stain will come out completely. Betcha.
Usually the SQ FL waits until the main wash to add the Clorox, so the enzymes get a chance to work in the prewash before being fried with chlorine, but sometimes it empties the Clorox in the prewash, so now I wait and pour the Clorox in the drawer quickly when it starts filling for the main wash. You could also dilute it in a measuring cup and wait until 5 to 10 minutes after the main wash starts, and add it by pouring it into the main wash detergent compartment.
(I never use cold water except for tomato stains, which seem to get permanently set with anything but cold water. Cat puke/bile, though protein based, comes out with the above method with hot water and there’s no need to use cold).
Bottom line, if you know what you’re doing you can get that stain out completely in the SQ FL, but not in either the new or old SQ TL. The FL really does clean better than the TL if you load and dose correctly.
(Probably with the other FL makes, you could wash that towel alone and get proper tumbling and cleaning, since they sense the load and use less water with fewer items so you still get tumbling action. The SQ of course does not sense, just fills up all the way, and so a single item just rolls around in too much water and does not get clean.)
As always, laundry is subjective and some people out there will disagree with this, but try it! I betcha it’ll come out completely with my method.
twintubdexter
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #008000;">coulda had one, didn't want one, heebee jeebees...</span>
jcturbot
Active member
AFNE9BSP113TW01 sensing
Helical,
One of your SQ Washers is model # AFNE9BSP113TW01 correct?
You stated that "The SQ of course does not sense, just fills up all the way, and so a single item just rolls around in too much water and does not get clean."
I have heard that SQ FL do not water-sense before and this is not what I have found in repetitive washes this last month with my model AFNE9BSP113TW01.
I have my machine draining into a sink which is measured in gallons from 1-8 so I can get an exact water measurement.
I did my normal 8-9 LB mixed load tonight and the Washer filled for 2 minutes 23 seconds.
It used 5 1/2 gallons for the Wash load and 6 gallons for each of it's 2 Rinses so total water used was 17 1/2 gallons.
I then did a load with 4 of my Son's Nike Elite cotton socks, one pair of Rebok sports shorts, and one pair of Russell sports shorts. The shorts were 93 & 100% polyester.The Washer filled for 1 minute 25 seconds and used 4 gallons for the Wash and 3 1/2 gallons for each of the rinse loads so 10 gallons of water total.
Lastly, I then threw in one cotton hand towel which filled for 1 minute 37 seconds and used less than 3 gallons for wash as well as rinse loads so under 9 gallons total.
I can say for at least this model, it does indeed measure for different loads.
Jeff
Helical,
One of your SQ Washers is model # AFNE9BSP113TW01 correct?
You stated that "The SQ of course does not sense, just fills up all the way, and so a single item just rolls around in too much water and does not get clean."
I have heard that SQ FL do not water-sense before and this is not what I have found in repetitive washes this last month with my model AFNE9BSP113TW01.
I have my machine draining into a sink which is measured in gallons from 1-8 so I can get an exact water measurement.
I did my normal 8-9 LB mixed load tonight and the Washer filled for 2 minutes 23 seconds.
It used 5 1/2 gallons for the Wash load and 6 gallons for each of it's 2 Rinses so total water used was 17 1/2 gallons.
I then did a load with 4 of my Son's Nike Elite cotton socks, one pair of Rebok sports shorts, and one pair of Russell sports shorts. The shorts were 93 & 100% polyester.The Washer filled for 1 minute 25 seconds and used 4 gallons for the Wash and 3 1/2 gallons for each of the rinse loads so 10 gallons of water total.
Lastly, I then threw in one cotton hand towel which filled for 1 minute 37 seconds and used less than 3 gallons for wash as well as rinse loads so under 9 gallons total.
I can say for at least this model, it does indeed measure for different loads.
Jeff
Maybe the answer depends on
What we mean by sensing...
Mine is the model you cite, except R instead of B.
All I can tell you is that mine strives to fill so that the water level just spills over into the boot. And it seems to have a sensor that shuts off the water when it hits that level. However there can be some variance. If the detergent foams up a lot during fill, the water shuts off a little prematurely, when the foam hits that level but before the water gets that high. And at times a load can absorb a lot of water right after it shuts off, so the water level will be lower. Either way, everything still gets clean. Rarely, if a load soaks up so much water that the tub goes dry, then the water will come back on and fill it up to just spilling over the boot. Random splashing can also affect the water level and make filling stop a tad earlier. It’s not super accurate or consistent from load to load. And I’m sure that affects water usage a bit. But it always puts in enough.
The variance in water usage also depends upon how much water the load absorbs.
Anyway,my point was that if you put one item in the SQ, it’s going to fill more or less to the door boot and the item will just roll around. An LG, Samsung, WP or Elux will keep turning the water on and off and weighing/sensing, with the result that the item will get wet and there will be only a little puddle of water in the tub, so the item will tumble and slap against the tub and get clean. Not so in the SQ.
That can be good and it can be bad, depending on what you want. If you want to wash one item in the SQ and get it clean, well, the result will be meh and you’d be better off with the other FL brands. But if you want to wash a few really dirty items, say two pairs of jeans, in a lot of splashy water, you’re in luck with the SQ. If you want your washer to get straight to it and fill without 5 to 10 minutes of weighing and sensing and filling up cup by cup, you’re in luck with the SQ. It just depends on what you want. The other FL brands seem to take more time being conservative with the wash water, but then at rinse time they’re much more generous with water than the SQ. Neither is better or right or wrong. Just depends on what you want.
What we mean by sensing...
Mine is the model you cite, except R instead of B.
All I can tell you is that mine strives to fill so that the water level just spills over into the boot. And it seems to have a sensor that shuts off the water when it hits that level. However there can be some variance. If the detergent foams up a lot during fill, the water shuts off a little prematurely, when the foam hits that level but before the water gets that high. And at times a load can absorb a lot of water right after it shuts off, so the water level will be lower. Either way, everything still gets clean. Rarely, if a load soaks up so much water that the tub goes dry, then the water will come back on and fill it up to just spilling over the boot. Random splashing can also affect the water level and make filling stop a tad earlier. It’s not super accurate or consistent from load to load. And I’m sure that affects water usage a bit. But it always puts in enough.
The variance in water usage also depends upon how much water the load absorbs.
Anyway,my point was that if you put one item in the SQ, it’s going to fill more or less to the door boot and the item will just roll around. An LG, Samsung, WP or Elux will keep turning the water on and off and weighing/sensing, with the result that the item will get wet and there will be only a little puddle of water in the tub, so the item will tumble and slap against the tub and get clean. Not so in the SQ.
That can be good and it can be bad, depending on what you want. If you want to wash one item in the SQ and get it clean, well, the result will be meh and you’d be better off with the other FL brands. But if you want to wash a few really dirty items, say two pairs of jeans, in a lot of splashy water, you’re in luck with the SQ. If you want your washer to get straight to it and fill without 5 to 10 minutes of weighing and sensing and filling up cup by cup, you’re in luck with the SQ. It just depends on what you want. The other FL brands seem to take more time being conservative with the wash water, but then at rinse time they’re much more generous with water than the SQ. Neither is better or right or wrong. Just depends on what you want.
What I meant to say
I don’t agree that the SQ measures for different loads. It’s not that sophisticated. It depends upon what measuring for different loads means in your mind.
The amount of water it uses will vary by load, but not because it is actively measuring or sensing or weighing like the other FL brands do.
The SQ fills with water until it is full. Very simple. How much water it takes to make it filled to the water line will vary, and it depends upon how many clothes are in it, how quickly they absorb water, and how much water they absorb, depending on fabric type.
How much water it uses for a rinse fill depends on the above factors, plus how much water was extracted from the clothes during the preceding spin, which varies depending upon how long and fast it spun before the rinse fill, which varies greatly depending upon how well it balances, which also varies.
Of course it used less water for the load of four socks and two synthetic shorts, versus the 8 to 9 pound load. It’s not because it measured the load, it’s just because the former load (small and synthetics) would absorb virtually no water at all, so it will hit the filled point with much less water than when there are 8 or 9 pounds of clothes in there, or say 15 pounds of towels.
If that’s measuring for different loads in your mind, then indeed it measures. But that’s not my idea of measuring for different loads like the other brands do with their specific weighing and sensing routines.
It’s a nice machine and I am happy with it, but it’s different from the other brands, which could be good or bad depending on what you want. I am long since over the mind set that there is only one best and perfect brand or model of something out there.
I don’t agree that the SQ measures for different loads. It’s not that sophisticated. It depends upon what measuring for different loads means in your mind.
The amount of water it uses will vary by load, but not because it is actively measuring or sensing or weighing like the other FL brands do.
The SQ fills with water until it is full. Very simple. How much water it takes to make it filled to the water line will vary, and it depends upon how many clothes are in it, how quickly they absorb water, and how much water they absorb, depending on fabric type.
How much water it uses for a rinse fill depends on the above factors, plus how much water was extracted from the clothes during the preceding spin, which varies depending upon how long and fast it spun before the rinse fill, which varies greatly depending upon how well it balances, which also varies.
Of course it used less water for the load of four socks and two synthetic shorts, versus the 8 to 9 pound load. It’s not because it measured the load, it’s just because the former load (small and synthetics) would absorb virtually no water at all, so it will hit the filled point with much less water than when there are 8 or 9 pounds of clothes in there, or say 15 pounds of towels.
If that’s measuring for different loads in your mind, then indeed it measures. But that’s not my idea of measuring for different loads like the other brands do with their specific weighing and sensing routines.
It’s a nice machine and I am happy with it, but it’s different from the other brands, which could be good or bad depending on what you want. I am long since over the mind set that there is only one best and perfect brand or model of something out there.
