Hello everybody. I have a question. What is the weight of Speed Queen transmission oil? From what I understand, it uses 24 ounces in the transmission. How well does it hold up to commercial use? If you have any suggestions, please notify me. Thank you.
Speed Queen oil weight
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60 weight
I think a lot of manufacturers specified 60 weight. I could be wrong but I think GE did too in their washers with transmissions as did Speed Queen.
I think a lot of manufacturers specified 60 weight. I could be wrong but I think GE did too in their washers with transmissions as did Speed Queen.
oil weight
I'm trying to find the exact weight of the oil that Speed Queen uses. Wouldn't 60 weight oil be too light on the gears? I wouldn't want to put 140 weight oil as it will be dragging the gears.
I'm trying to find the exact weight of the oil that Speed Queen uses. Wouldn't 60 weight oil be too light on the gears? I wouldn't want to put 140 weight oil as it will be dragging the gears.
windrivers
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I wouldn't think it requires exceptionally heavy oil. If other manufacturers use 60 weight I don't see why Speed Queen would be different, I don't think there are any exceptional stresses or extreme heat on the transmission.
However, I understand wanting to be sure. You can always use Speed Queen transmission oil 27243P, which I understand is the OEM oil they use in all their machines including commercial. From what I see, it costs over $40 for 24oz (one fill), but you can try searching for better deals.
I've searched some and can't find any specs or data sheets that give the weight or composition, but I don't think you could go wrong with OEM, especially not knowing what other oils are equivalent in weight, composition, and additives.
However, I understand wanting to be sure. You can always use Speed Queen transmission oil 27243P, which I understand is the OEM oil they use in all their machines including commercial. From what I see, it costs over $40 for 24oz (one fill), but you can try searching for better deals.
I've searched some and can't find any specs or data sheets that give the weight or composition, but I don't think you could go wrong with OEM, especially not knowing what other oils are equivalent in weight, composition, and additives.
composition and heat
I've always wondered what the composition of each oil is. I know that whirlpool uses 90 weight gear oil and GE used 40 weight grease in their filter-flos. It seems that Speed Queen transmissions don't get as hot and may use a lighter oil I assume about 60w oil.
I've always wondered what the composition of each oil is. I know that whirlpool uses 90 weight gear oil and GE used 40 weight grease in their filter-flos. It seems that Speed Queen transmissions don't get as hot and may use a lighter oil I assume about 60w oil.
Oil weight for transmissions
Keep in mind that thinner and lighter oils actually lubricate better and protect gears better, look at the example of an automatic transmission, which can handle hundreds of horsepower under stressful conditions.
Heavier oil’s may make it run a little quieter but they do use more energy, which is very important in an automobile
Oil weight probably doesn’t really matter in the washing machine you could use anything from 60 to 100 weight probably with no different results.
John
Keep in mind that thinner and lighter oils actually lubricate better and protect gears better, look at the example of an automatic transmission, which can handle hundreds of horsepower under stressful conditions.
Heavier oil’s may make it run a little quieter but they do use more energy, which is very important in an automobile
Oil weight probably doesn’t really matter in the washing machine you could use anything from 60 to 100 weight probably with no different results.
John
Auto trans fluid in washing machine...
Some years ago we had a very small solar power setup and every watt had to be counted. (We live off-grid.)
I modified a Whirlpool belt-drive washer to use less power - a 60V DC permanent magnet motor (from a prehistoric huge computer tape drive), 240V power went through a toroidal transformer and a bridge rectifier to give the right DC voltage to the motor. (Being Australian, the washing machine was originally 240V, this remained for everything except the motor - timer, valves, wigwags were original 240V.)
I also replaced the (extremely thick, dirty) oil in the transmission with automotive transmission fluid. It greatly reduced the load on the motor, and thus the power consumption. Original unmodified washer used about 600 Watts, the modified washer used around 200W from memory, and spin was much faster too. (The original AC motor had a fixed speed, the DC motor got faster with lighter load.) There was slightly more gear noise with the light oil.
It was a pretty rough and ready conversion but it worked. (Machine has long since gone to scrap but the DC motor remains on the shelf...)
I stopped modifying washing machines when Fisher and Paykel Smart Drive top loaders came out - max consumption of 175 watts, no mods needed, better wash, faster spin.
Some years ago we had a very small solar power setup and every watt had to be counted. (We live off-grid.)
I modified a Whirlpool belt-drive washer to use less power - a 60V DC permanent magnet motor (from a prehistoric huge computer tape drive), 240V power went through a toroidal transformer and a bridge rectifier to give the right DC voltage to the motor. (Being Australian, the washing machine was originally 240V, this remained for everything except the motor - timer, valves, wigwags were original 240V.)
I also replaced the (extremely thick, dirty) oil in the transmission with automotive transmission fluid. It greatly reduced the load on the motor, and thus the power consumption. Original unmodified washer used about 600 Watts, the modified washer used around 200W from memory, and spin was much faster too. (The original AC motor had a fixed speed, the DC motor got faster with lighter load.) There was slightly more gear noise with the light oil.
It was a pretty rough and ready conversion but it worked. (Machine has long since gone to scrap but the DC motor remains on the shelf...)
I stopped modifying washing machines when Fisher and Paykel Smart Drive top loaders came out - max consumption of 175 watts, no mods needed, better wash, faster spin.
Speed Queen Gear Oil
Hey guys. I recently purchased some gear oil for Speed Queen Classic Clean transmissions from Amazon. It did have an industrial smell and was quite thick. It reminds me of the GE and Whirlpool oils. For those of you who've smelled it, what are your thoughts? It did smell quite strong too, especially when it heats up. It may have been made by Benz oil.
Hey guys. I recently purchased some gear oil for Speed Queen Classic Clean transmissions from Amazon. It did have an industrial smell and was quite thick. It reminds me of the GE and Whirlpool oils. For those of you who've smelled it, what are your thoughts? It did smell quite strong too, especially when it heats up. It may have been made by Benz oil.
kalanikaau1
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Indeed, some auto manufacturers started to specify 10W-40 motor oils for their manual transaxles, Honda started the practice in the early '70's, if not sooner, for the sake of fuel economy.
I've overhauled several Honda 5 speed units because someone thought that it was a good idea to run hypoid gear oil in them, this quickly destroyed all the bearings within.
One instance was particularly noteworthy, the owner of a Gen 1 Accord was tooling down the highway when the transaxle locked up with little warning, some fast lube shop had drained it and refilled it with 90 wt. gear oil, I remember the owner stating that he almost went through the windshield, resultingly the transaxle self-destructed.
The tolerances within the transaxle were very close, gear oil was way to thick to provide adequate flow between the internal components.
Some manufacturers even recommended using ATF in their manual units, notably Ford.
Indeed, some auto manufacturers started to specify 10W-40 motor oils for their manual transaxles, Honda started the practice in the early '70's, if not sooner, for the sake of fuel economy.
I've overhauled several Honda 5 speed units because someone thought that it was a good idea to run hypoid gear oil in them, this quickly destroyed all the bearings within.
One instance was particularly noteworthy, the owner of a Gen 1 Accord was tooling down the highway when the transaxle locked up with little warning, some fast lube shop had drained it and refilled it with 90 wt. gear oil, I remember the owner stating that he almost went through the windshield, resultingly the transaxle self-destructed.
The tolerances within the transaxle were very close, gear oil was way to thick to provide adequate flow between the internal components.
Some manufacturers even recommended using ATF in their manual units, notably Ford.
90w gear oil
I've heard that Speed Queen uses 90w gear oil through the grapevines somewhere. That stuff smells like industrial gear oil with gasoline in it. Maybe they used additives and thickeners to lubricate all the metal gears without damaging them. This stuff was quite thick and had a fairly strong smell. The part# is 27243p I believe. I believe it's 24 ounces.
I've heard that Speed Queen uses 90w gear oil through the grapevines somewhere. That stuff smells like industrial gear oil with gasoline in it. Maybe they used additives and thickeners to lubricate all the metal gears without damaging them. This stuff was quite thick and had a fairly strong smell. The part# is 27243p I believe. I believe it's 24 ounces.
Oil viscosity, and energy use
Lighter thinner oils, generally lubricate much better because they can get in between things, however, something is crude as a washer transmission will lubricate quite well with a thicker oil.
The energy savings, Chris mentioned and reply number seven really are derived from using a more efficient DC motor, if you put ATF in a washer transmission, you probably couldn’t measure the tiny bit less electricity. The machine would use because split phase induction motors are so inefficient to begin with. They draw a lot of power just running doing no work at all.
I bought a 1990 1/2ton Dodge pick up truck with a five speed back when it was new , and it used ATF in the manual transmission, for example, to save energy and for easier shifting cold temperatures.
John
Lighter thinner oils, generally lubricate much better because they can get in between things, however, something is crude as a washer transmission will lubricate quite well with a thicker oil.
The energy savings, Chris mentioned and reply number seven really are derived from using a more efficient DC motor, if you put ATF in a washer transmission, you probably couldn’t measure the tiny bit less electricity. The machine would use because split phase induction motors are so inefficient to begin with. They draw a lot of power just running doing no work at all.
I bought a 1990 1/2ton Dodge pick up truck with a five speed back when it was new , and it used ATF in the manual transmission, for example, to save energy and for easier shifting cold temperatures.
John
