speedqueen
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When mine is out of warranty, I fully intend to try and change the first spin to the high speed motor windings. It would certainly be quieter and rinse better.
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stricklybojack
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So how much deflection should the belt be tensioned too,
How tight is too tight?
How do you change to "the high speed motor wingdings"? What's a wingding in this context?
I hopefully will have a SQ TL machine soon and I am interested in all the mods.
The following I know about (thx Martin!):
Drill out the hot water inlet
Drill out both inlets
Remove the device(?) from the end of the drain hose
Increase the waterfall effect by sealing off exit behind basket
Swap in a better agitator (seems to depend on just what kind you favor)
Increase tub water fill to top
Did I miss any, please let us know, thx.
So how much deflection should the belt be tensioned too,
How tight is too tight?
How do you change to "the high speed motor wingdings"? What's a wingding in this context?
I hopefully will have a SQ TL machine soon and I am interested in all the mods.
The following I know about (thx Martin!):
Drill out the hot water inlet
Drill out both inlets
Remove the device(?) from the end of the drain hose
Increase the waterfall effect by sealing off exit behind basket
Swap in a better agitator (seems to depend on just what kind you favor)
Increase tub water fill to top
Did I miss any, please let us know, thx.
speedqueen
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I wrote "windings" not "wingdings". Windings are the many loops of wire wound inside the motor that when energized produce a magnetic field which sebsequently spins the armature(center shaft). Two speed motors are used in the old style SQ top loaders, these employ two sets of windings. For the first spin, the windings inside the motor that are for slow speed are energized. This yields less extraction of sudsy wash water before the rinse thus resulting in less effective rinsing. If the windings for the high speed operation were energized instead, the machine would have a fast first spin.
Looking at a schematic would yield exactly what to do, but it certainly seems like it would be possible to me.
Looking at a schematic would yield exactly what to do, but it certainly seems like it would be possible to me.
the only advantage to that 'change' would be for models where the speed is controlled by the timer...
the only thing that might change is giving a high speed spin for Gentle or PermPress cycles....
but during Regular/Normal cycles, all spins are high speed by default...
no matter what speed your using, if the belt is not gripping enough, you not reaching its full potential of the 710rpms for Normal...
the only thing that might change is giving a high speed spin for Gentle or PermPress cycles....
but during Regular/Normal cycles, all spins are high speed by default...
no matter what speed your using, if the belt is not gripping enough, you not reaching its full potential of the 710rpms for Normal...
speedqueen
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I have the 2015 DOE spec AWN432, because of this, my options for most fabrics are "Heavy Duty/Permanent Press" or "Normal/Eco" so I am forced into low speed first spins on the most effective cycle, HD/PP.
oh yeah, on those models, the speed is slowed down for the saturation rinse....
you would think they would have stepped the spin speeds for when the rinse spray is on, and then off...jumping back and forth slow to high...
wonder if there would be a way to re-program the cycle.....high speed at first to extract as much soap as possible, then do the stepped spins for the ECO cycle...
I still think you might get a better extraction if the belt were a bit tighter...all you can do is try adding some tension during a spin to see if there is any improvement...
you would think they would have stepped the spin speeds for when the rinse spray is on, and then off...jumping back and forth slow to high...
wonder if there would be a way to re-program the cycle.....high speed at first to extract as much soap as possible, then do the stepped spins for the ECO cycle...
I still think you might get a better extraction if the belt were a bit tighter...all you can do is try adding some tension during a spin to see if there is any improvement...
lordkenmore
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As for noise tests... I suppose there is a plus to a quiet machine. Certainly, it's a selling point for some. As I've commented before, noise (or lack of) was a major talking point of one woman who sold appliances at my nearest Home Depot. I, personally, value washing performance more, and, in that regard, the new Speed Queen doesn't seem acceptable based on the available information.
Also the noisier competitor in this video doesn't seem that noisy...although I'm only judging that based on this video, not in the real world. But then I'm currently using a BOL WP DD, which is quite audible when running...
Also the noisier competitor in this video doesn't seem that noisy...although I'm only judging that based on this video, not in the real world. But then I'm currently using a BOL WP DD, which is quite audible when running...
I've had an Asko or Miele for the past 20 years so noise isn't an issue for me either!
wash sounds
When I saw the video, they said the speed queen sounded like a spa, or being at a beach somewhere. Really?
When I saw the video, they said the speed queen sounded like a spa, or being at a beach somewhere. Really?
Noise has to be the stupidest "bug" or "feature" comparison in modern times.
There's people on many review sites who have gone from a KM or WP DD washer, to a WP or GE inverter motor machine, with no trans, and they screech online how noisy those new machines are.
Granted they have the intermittent electric motor sound with no transmission, but how the HECK can they go from a DD machine to a new machine and say it's too noisy?
Boggles my mind.
There's people on many review sites who have gone from a KM or WP DD washer, to a WP or GE inverter motor machine, with no trans, and they screech online how noisy those new machines are.
Granted they have the intermittent electric motor sound with no transmission, but how the HECK can they go from a DD machine to a new machine and say it's too noisy?
Boggles my mind.
Exactly John!
you know, if you hit the 'mute' key while watching a vid, the machine is almost silent...
as most installs are in an alcove, bathroom, basement....noise levels aren't really a factor....some machines are soothing to hear operate....
at the last house, my neptunes were in the kitchen, loved hearing the sound of the spin ramp up which sounded like a jet taking off.....not like I was running a load while sleeping!...
if people only had a 'mute' button!....at least you know the machine will stop!
you know, if you hit the 'mute' key while watching a vid, the machine is almost silent...
as most installs are in an alcove, bathroom, basement....noise levels aren't really a factor....some machines are soothing to hear operate....
at the last house, my neptunes were in the kitchen, loved hearing the sound of the spin ramp up which sounded like a jet taking off.....not like I was running a load while sleeping!...
if people only had a 'mute' button!....at least you know the machine will stop!
