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build quality and performance

It seems the build quality is tougher than the previous model. Even the engineers at Speed Queen were uncertain that their new washers would perform better than their previous generation top loader washer. I wonder if this washer has a ribbed belt in it. I hope they put the sound effects of their new washers' operation like GE did.
 
"Here goes nothing..."

I tried commenting on their press release, it says my comment is awaiting moderation.
Lets just see if they actually post it!

Harley, are you sure? Myself, I'd put more stock in the toilet plunger.

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Good thing

Good thing we have modern very effective detergents. With the new washing action and a modern detergent, the clothes will be clean. Remember that Consumer Reports has tested the former Speed Queen Top Loader and found that it did not clean well using their tests. They probably will not test this unit. Since I do not repair cars or do landscape work, my laundry is not very dirty to begin with, so I sill appreciate a washer that is well built. I can always let clothes soak, let say, for an hour. This way the wash cycle will more closely match a modern Front Load.

Still, I am glad I bought a 2017 model. And I am in the school of spin/drain for entertainment if nothing else.
 
anybody and everybody will boast their own product, GM, Chrysler, Ford, Etc all think they make the best vehicle...this is no different

Better build quality and longevity are their main concerns, tag in a more gentle wash.....people will buy into that!

people bought into Maytag for their "Dependability" not their great vigorous wash action....which was certainly a drop from their wringer machines....if people knew how the machine gave into a load to save the machine, why else did the machine stop when the lid was raised?...

the vids are helpful insights to the machine.....as with any machine, skepticism is warranted, but with any machine, I rather have a hands on use of an actual machine, hear from someone who sells and works on them, before listening to someones best guess.....
 
It is a tough machine

I certainly can’t say it’s not well built. The belt is a 7(?) rib belt. Thickest I’ve seen. The pulley is well built and will never break. This machine will certainly outlast anything out there, including the previous generation.

I sell (past tense now) speed queens and serviced them. I’ve run at least 20 loads on their new machine. It will work great for office dust, just won’t clean the working man’s clothes.
 
Longevity

Assuming the control board is made to last that long, this new SQ may actually outlive a Maytag center dial. Never thought I would say that for a modern residential washer but its true. The seals are improved and the rest is just a solid metal shaft; no gears, clutches, ect, ect.
 
normal sounds and wash quality

I hope Speed Queen posts videos of this washer's normal sounds during operation. I don't blame Speed Queen completely, or at least I shouldn't. I hope they improve on their wash action by putting ribs or underwater jets in the agitator with fins, or all of the above to create the most intense water currents while driving out heavy dirt. I'm not holding my breath, but I hope they improve.
At least they made their design as tough, if not tougher. It's just the wash action I'm not too fond of. Even the engineers themselves were doubtful.
What else were they supposed to do?
 
this new machine may prove beneficial to actual better rinsing and extraction than the older models.....

if you think your current SQ does OK with spinning and rinsing....pop the front panel off, and while spinning a full load, with your finger, reach under the motor and add some tension to the idler, and watch the spin speed increase drastically....

I just installed a new belt, everything appeared to work as it should.....until I increased the spring tension on the pulley, and noticed the increase in speed, and better extraction of water from the load....

just from the first wash water spin, better extraction will give you clearer rinsing, and a faster final spin will reduce your drying time...
 
When mine is out of warranty, I fully intend to try and change the first spin to the high speed motor windings. It would certainly be quieter and rinse better.
 
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So how much deflection should the belt be tensioned too,
How tight is too tight?
How do you change to "the high speed motor wingdings"? What's a wingding in this context?
I hopefully will have a SQ TL machine soon and I am interested in all the mods.

The following I know about (thx Martin!):
Drill out the hot water inlet
Drill out both inlets
Remove the device(?) from the end of the drain hose
Increase the waterfall effect by sealing off exit behind basket
Swap in a better agitator (seems to depend on just what kind you favor)
Increase tub water fill to top

Did I miss any, please let us know, thx.
 
I wrote "windings" not "wingdings". Windings are the many loops of wire wound inside the motor that when energized produce a magnetic field which sebsequently spins the armature(center shaft). Two speed motors are used in the old style SQ top loaders, these employ two sets of windings. For the first spin, the windings inside the motor that are for slow speed are energized. This yields less extraction of sudsy wash water before the rinse thus resulting in less effective rinsing. If the windings for the high speed operation were energized instead, the machine would have a fast first spin.

Looking at a schematic would yield exactly what to do, but it certainly seems like it would be possible to me.
 
the only advantage to that 'change' would be for models where the speed is controlled by the timer...

the only thing that might change is giving a high speed spin for Gentle or PermPress cycles....

but during Regular/Normal cycles, all spins are high speed by default...

no matter what speed your using, if the belt is not gripping enough, you not reaching its full potential of the 710rpms for Normal...
 
I have the 2015 DOE spec AWN432, because of this, my options for most fabrics are "Heavy Duty/Permanent Press" or "Normal/Eco" so I am forced into low speed first spins on the most effective cycle, HD/PP.
 
oh yeah, on those models, the speed is slowed down for the saturation rinse....

you would think they would have stepped the spin speeds for when the rinse spray is on, and then off...jumping back and forth slow to high...

wonder if there would be a way to re-program the cycle.....high speed at first to extract as much soap as possible, then do the stepped spins for the ECO cycle...

I still think you might get a better extraction if the belt were a bit tighter...all you can do is try adding some tension during a spin to see if there is any improvement...
 
As for noise tests... I suppose there is a plus to a quiet machine. Certainly, it's a selling point for some. As I've commented before, noise (or lack of) was a major talking point of one woman who sold appliances at my nearest Home Depot. I, personally, value washing performance more, and, in that regard, the new Speed Queen doesn't seem acceptable based on the available information.

 

Also the noisier competitor in this video doesn't seem that noisy...although I'm only judging that based on this video, not in the real world. But then I'm currently using a BOL WP DD, which is quite audible when running...

 
 
Noise has to be the stupidest "bug" or "feature" comparison in modern times.

There's people on many review sites who have gone from a KM or WP DD washer, to a WP or GE inverter motor machine, with no trans, and they screech online how noisy those new machines are.
Granted they have the intermittent electric motor sound with no transmission, but how the HECK can they go from a DD machine to a new machine and say it's too noisy?
Boggles my mind.
 

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