Speed Queen TV2000wn - early review / permanent lid switch fix

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Since this forum has been very helpful in my decision on researching washers and dryers before my purchase. Following my results I wanted to contribute to some additional information regarding the Speed Queen TV2000WN we decided to purchase with a writeup that may be helpful for someone else down the line. Basis of the story the wife and I are moving into a new home, we left our old 2021 Hot Point HTW265ASWWW washer and Dryer HTX26EASWWW in our previous home with the sale. Needless to say the Hot Point machines were Hot Garbage. They were only a couple years old and showing signs of issues including squeaks, squeals, and the occasional refuse to operate flashing lights and no worky condition until cold reboot. The sad part is usually we do laundry once or at most twice a week (just my wife and I for now) so I know these units should not be worn out but what can you expect for the cheapest economy set of washer / dryer in modern times of planned obsolescence. These machines clearly were built with the end in mind to last only a few years in operation. With consumerism and corporate greed driving nearly all products into garbage quality territory I have began doing extensive rabbit hole research before purchasing ANY durable items. I believe now that buy once cry once is the only way unless you enjoy trash products and dealing with the headaches.

Between this forum and reddit's r/BuyitForLIfe we ended up purchasing the Speed Queen TV2000wn out of the reviews primarily from the extensive writeups from the TC5 model since it is essentially the same machine without water level control and a few other small things. We knew we wanted to stay away from anything computer controlled and minimize the PCB's and chips needed to control such a simple appliance (no your washing machine does not need Wi-Fi). Following my mentality of simplifying my life and surroundings while saving money in the long term this washer was the easy choice. The TC5 probably is just as durable but I desired to remove the control boards from the equation even if it suffered some functionality loss. If you want something like this I image in another 5 years it will be discontinued, from my understanding the only thing still keeping this machine in production is GSA contracts since this machine specifically is supplied in bulk to the US government for military installations, prison's, ect.

Just an announcement here as well that purchasing this TV2000wn was not for the faint of heart. All of my local dealers only stock and sell the TC5, they all gave me a hard time and aggressively attempted to persuade me to purchase the TC5. Statements like "you don't want that model its outdated", "that model is for really just for nursing homes and restaurant's", "that model still has a computer just like the TC5"(this was an ignorant one) or the best one "the warranty is much shorter only 90 days where the TC5 is blah blah..... salesman warranty pitch". Don't let them fool you, its all sales tactics to move their stock, or in many cases to get you to order with them for what they get a bulk pricing. I only succeeded in one dealer breaking and them *attempting* to order me a TV2000wn and DV2000 pair. Dealer said it was a 10 week backorder and had to wait till the next months order to get on waiting list. So, I immediately ordered a set online through Webstauraunt store.com and they shipped direct to my door no fuss and they were great to work with. Service and repairs from your local Speed Queen dealer may be worth it if you are not mechanically inclined and are lucky enough to get warranty work honored but from my experience most warranties are not worth the paper they are printed on in 2025. I do not have time for your tech to schedule looking at my washer two weeks from now and then try to tell my that it was my fault xyz part failed, I would rather order parts overnight online and fix it myself.

So the TV2000wn fits all my wants / needs with its purely analog timer control and always deep fill capability. If you like being able to control the water level there are options. (thanks to this forum I will eventually add water level control switch and pressure mechanism to convert to a pre-2018 model with medium and low water fill) easily obtained here: https://automaticwasher.org/threads...switch-to-a-new-commercial-speed-queen.77806/

So if you are to this point with modern appliances and have canned your HE top loader or front loader and want a traditional washing machine that is brand new but came from 1995 follow me. We all know things used to be made better and did not have the influence of useless governmental regulations that I wont discuss here.

First order of business: defeat the lid safety switch. I want to be able to add things after start of the fill process including detergent first then clothes at my leisure. Post-2018 my understanding is the latest revision of this TV2000wn model# LWN432SP115TW01 has a lid safety switch which prevents all operation including filling of water until the lid is closed. *the TC5 still allows filling but required lid closure before agitation and spin to my knowledge* Digging through wiring diagrams and service manuals this appeared to be an easy fix. Online you can find hacks of jamming something between the switch lever and the bottom of the housing lip to close the switch this seemed like a janky solution that would vibrate out over time and require adjustments that I am not willing to make periodically.

The permanent solution if you are mechanically inclined or know just a little bit about electricity is install an auxiliary switch to "jump" the lid switch to be able to choose between lid switch defeat mode and normal mode.

All you need is a single pole toggle switch of your choice, 2- 6" sections of 12-14ga stranded wire, 2 butt connectors, and 2 blade connectors.

How the lid switch works: The lid switch while the lid is closed and the machine is in operation is NORMALLY CLOSED. Checking with a voltmeter reveals continuity across the switch circuit while the lid is closed and the machine is operational. When the lid is opened the switch OPENS and thus stops operation.

So to defeat this switch to continue operation while the lid is open install the toggle switch in PARALLEL with the lid switch circuit. The lid switch circuit has two black wires going to it, see electrical diagrams before you get snippy with the wires. After this when your toggle switch in ON regardless of the machine's lid switch condition the washer will operate as if the lid was always closed no matter if the lid is open or not.

When the switch is OFF or open the lid switch will perform as the government intended. I installed my switch behind the main control panel on the right side to ensure clearance with the timer control. This switch is hidden in such a way you must know it is there and it can be discretely turned off and on if you are aware of its presence on the back of the panel.

If you do not know what a parallel circuit is and what continuity means you probably do not need to perform this modification. Do this at your own risk!







 
The TC5 will not fill with the lid open either. Never understood the big deal, if I want to add something, I can, it just pauses the fill for a couple seconds.

The model you got has a three year parts warranty, NO labor. Not sure where the 90 days came from. The TC5 has 5 years parts and labor, and I will have no trouble getting service from my local dealer, they service what they sell

Like you I can repair my own, but if I'm paying $1379 for a NEW machine, there's no way I'm repairing it myself for 5 years. Plus the local dealer delivered, installed, included a free hose extension, and hauled away the old machine for over $200 less than you paid ($1150).

I do hope you enjoy the new machine though.

https://assets.ajmadison.com/ajmadison/itemdocs/commerical_warranty.pdf

BTW, half your post is invisible in standard "system" view.
 
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So if you are to this point with modern appliances and have canned your HE top loader or front loader and want a traditional washing machine that is brand new but came from 1995 follow me. We all know things used to be made better and did not have the influence of useless governmental regulations that I wont discuss here.

First order of business: defeat the lid safety switch. I want to be able to add things after start of the fill process including detergent first then clothes at my leisure. Post-2018 my understanding is the latest revision of this TV2000wn model# LWN432SP115TW01 has a lid safety switch which prevents all operation including filling of water until the lid is closed. *the TC5 still allows filling but required lid closure before agitation and spin to my knowledge* Digging through wiring diagrams and service manuals this appeared to be an easy fix. Online you can find hacks of jamming something between the switch lever and the bottom of the housing lip to close the switch this seemed like a janky solution that would vibrate out over time and require adjustments that I am not willing to make periodically.

The permanent solution if you are mechanically inclined or know just a little bit about electricity is install an auxiliary switch to "jump" the lid switch to be able to choose between lid switch defeat mode and normal mode.

All you need is a single pole toggle switch of your choice, 2- 6" sections of 12-14ga stranded wire, 2 butt connectors, and 2 blade connectors.

How the lid switch works: The lid switch while the lid is closed and the machine is in operation is NORMALLY CLOSED. Checking with a voltmeter reveals continuity across the switch circuit while the lid is closed and the machine is operational. When the lid is opened the switch OPENS and thus stops operation.

So to defeat this switch to continue operation while the lid is open install the toggle switch in PARALLEL with the lid switch circuit. The lid switch circuit has two black wires going to it, see electrical diagrams before you get snippy with the wires. After this when your toggle switch in ON regardless of the machine's lid switch condition the washer will operate as if the lid was always closed no matter if the lid is open or not.

When the switch is OFF or open the lid switch will perform as the government intended. I installed my switch behind the main control panel on the right side to ensure clearance with the timer control. This switch is hidden in such a way you must know it is there and it can be discretely turned off and on if you are aware of its presence on the back of the panel.

If you do not know what a parallel circuit is and what continuity means you probably do not need to perform this modification. Do this at your own risk!
 
Rant incoming: Maybe it is just bad luck but in my experience attempting to get warranties honored on so many products I just have given up and accepted that they are a scam for the most part. It might be a generational thing but myself and many my age (younger generation <30 yrs old) are fed up with empty guarantees. The last reason I am buying a specific product is for a piece of paper stating that someone I have to call on a 1-800 number is obligated to fix a failure in a piece of equipment that I needed to work right now, not later, not a month from now, now. Not saying SQ is this way (I really feel like they aren't) or my local dealers would be either, I just hate the hassle and having to fight to get a product repaired / replaced. I understand companies must protect themselves from fraud but it always seems to turn into I am the bad guy and the failure was my fault.

Just as an advisory understand warranties do not fix everything every time, even if you paid for it and expect the problem to be covered. If I can protect someone, especially younger people starting out from wasting their money on uninformed purchases of garbage products that marketing lures them into I have succeeded.

Best advice I have is do extensive research like not consumer reports, not social media, and be aware of paid reviews, not listening to a salesman at xyz dealer, and stay out of lowe's and home depot. I am talking time tested longer term data on products that have a track record. Get in these type forums read about the problems and failures. Understand how things are built and manufactured, look at parts and wiring diagrams. Your result may be buy a used machine from the 90's that is tried and true that will run for another 20 years instead of that new shiny one made in china.

I have grown so tired of appliances and similar items being a burden in my life and wasting my hard earned money every time I turn around, so I have chosen to spend some time on the front end to hopefully reduce the occurrence of failures.
 

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