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I'd ditch the belt driven pump and go for a Hanning pump but thats just me. Everything else I like.
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Belt drive (the washer is belt driven) COMMA electric pump
Belt drive (the washer is belt driven) COMMA electric pump
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Belt drive (the washer is belt driven) COMMA electric pump
Also... more simple than that IS possible (and it's comming soon)
Same washer, 20 minute shut off timer, manual fill, separate on-off switch for pump. babysit the washer to fill, then come back to babysit the drainage and refill for rinse, maximum capacity 15% reduced, motor power reduced. Made after many "off-grid" customers begged me to create a solution under 300 Watts (for solar panels)
Belt drive (the washer is belt driven) COMMA electric pump
Also... more simple than that IS possible (and it's comming soon)
Same washer, 20 minute shut off timer, manual fill, separate on-off switch for pump. babysit the washer to fill, then come back to babysit the drainage and refill for rinse, maximum capacity 15% reduced, motor power reduced. Made after many "off-grid" customers begged me to create a solution under 300 Watts (for solar panels)
and for those missing an old school washer....
very soon we'll have a ROUND washer with an agitator somewhat similar to a Maytag Wringer (without the wringer)
AAAAAAAND EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE. (I mean REALLY inexpensive at the full meaning of the word "inexpensive"). Designed thinking of helping fixed income customers that struggle saving quarters for the laundromat.
very soon we'll have a ROUND washer with an agitator somewhat similar to a Maytag Wringer (without the wringer)
AAAAAAAND EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE. (I mean REALLY inexpensive at the full meaning of the word "inexpensive"). Designed thinking of helping fixed income customers that struggle saving quarters for the laundromat.
pinkpower4
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@thomasortega / Niagara and New Products
I am looking forward to seeing these new products! Please post updates and videos when these products become available. How exciting, a manufacturer that FINALLY gets it. Good washers do matter and in the end save energy, water, time, our environment, and resources.
Thanks!
I am looking forward to seeing these new products! Please post updates and videos when these products become available. How exciting, a manufacturer that FINALLY gets it. Good washers do matter and in the end save energy, water, time, our environment, and resources.
Thanks!
rolls_rapide
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"Same washer, 20 minute shut off timer, manual fill, separate on-off switch for pump. babysit the washer to fill, then come back to babysit the drainage and refill for rinse, maximum capacity 15% reduced, motor power reduced. Made after many "off-grid" customers begged me to create a solution under 300 Watts (for solar panels."
It's funny (odd, peculiar) how the modern fully automatic washing machine has become an absolute liability, in terms of lacklustre performance, hellishly long cycles, and rubbish electronics.
With the user-controlled semi-automatics, we seem to have stepped back in time, to the era of the English Electric Liberator Tumble Wash, the Parnall Spinwasher, and dare I say, the twintub.
Civilisation must be crumbling.
It's funny (odd, peculiar) how the modern fully automatic washing machine has become an absolute liability, in terms of lacklustre performance, hellishly long cycles, and rubbish electronics.
With the user-controlled semi-automatics, we seem to have stepped back in time, to the era of the English Electric Liberator Tumble Wash, the Parnall Spinwasher, and dare I say, the twintub.
Civilisation must be crumbling.
The laundromat I’m going to tomorrow
May have two American Motex extractors, Not sure if they are employees only, If they are not, hopefully they’ve retrofitted them to more modern Safety standards, I’ll try to get some pictures tomorrow
May have two American Motex extractors, Not sure if they are employees only, If they are not, hopefully they’ve retrofitted them to more modern Safety standards, I’ll try to get some pictures tomorrow
That makes sense. BTW, in the pics posted on the Niagra website I think I see what looks like blue, red and yellow wires going to the motor. I like the choice of colors! Whirlpool I think uses red and yellow for their PSC motors- so I see what you did there! 
You switch both live and neutral with the power button? Mallory timer? What the yellow plastic plug thing for on the side of the tub?
I'm starting to fall in love with this design.
I will probably by one in a few months.
Honestly whatever you make without electronics I will appreciate.
You switch both live and neutral with the power button? Mallory timer? What the yellow plastic plug thing for on the side of the tub?
I'm starting to fall in love with this design.
I will probably by one in a few months.
Honestly whatever you make without electronics I will appreciate.
PSC motor washer
A while back I drew this up for a washer without electronics:
A while back I drew this up for a washer without electronics:
Longing
I longing for a front load washer without electronics as well. Though spin will have to be limited because of that. But I'm willing to buy it. I don't like how modern Queens have an electric interface and an electronic motor control board.
Personally I'd like to see a motor with 2-4 poles for spin and 16-18 poles for tumble. Timer controlled, two chunky capacitors where the motor control sits. A pressure switch that once satisfied kicks off the water and turns on a heater.
I longing for a front load washer without electronics as well. Though spin will have to be limited because of that. But I'm willing to buy it. I don't like how modern Queens have an electric interface and an electronic motor control board.
Personally I'd like to see a motor with 2-4 poles for spin and 16-18 poles for tumble. Timer controlled, two chunky capacitors where the motor control sits. A pressure switch that once satisfied kicks off the water and turns on a heater.
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IOMH and dBT™ Quiet Control?
IOMH: In over my head, but seems we are going through a valid development phase, although in slow motion (more than a century and counting). More and more automation to excessive, then back up a bit to the then-recognizable sweet spot. Of course one person's sweet spot is wanting more automation which is excessive to the next person, so option buttons to adjust the automation.
My sweet spot would be to have lots of automation choices with options and full knowledge of what each choice actually does because most of my loads are mixed. I never have enough towels to warrant a separate load of towels.
dBT™ Quiet Control: The GE (Haire) name for their "new" quiet spin. Anyone know what it does; does it do anything unique? Or just their algorithm for multiple attempts?
IOMH: In over my head, but seems we are going through a valid development phase, although in slow motion (more than a century and counting). More and more automation to excessive, then back up a bit to the then-recognizable sweet spot. Of course one person's sweet spot is wanting more automation which is excessive to the next person, so option buttons to adjust the automation.
My sweet spot would be to have lots of automation choices with options and full knowledge of what each choice actually does because most of my loads are mixed. I never have enough towels to warrant a separate load of towels.
dBT™ Quiet Control: The GE (Haire) name for their "new" quiet spin. Anyone know what it does; does it do anything unique? Or just their algorithm for multiple attempts?
Here’s the laundromat with bock hydro extractors
@adam aussievac
On that Bock extractor does the lever on the front operate a lid lock so it can't spin while open?
We used to have such spin dryers in our launderettes they saved quite a while in the dryer, I have a number of separate spin dryers all capable of reaching speeds up to 3.100 rpms some items come out ironing ready and yes you do need to use an iron as they crease somewhat, But as I enjoy ironing its not an issue
Austin
On that Bock extractor does the lever on the front operate a lid lock so it can't spin while open?
We used to have such spin dryers in our launderettes they saved quite a while in the dryer, I have a number of separate spin dryers all capable of reaching speeds up to 3.100 rpms some items come out ironing ready and yes you do need to use an iron as they crease somewhat, But as I enjoy ironing its not an issue
Austin
One routinely spin dries linens of all sorts that have been hand washed, and will be ironed afterwards. To avoid heavy creasing trick is short extraction time. Far better to have things a bit moist and then hang to dry further as opposed to extracting to death, then having deep set creases.
One thing H-axis washing machines have over spin dryers is use of short periods of spinning, stopping, fluff wash, start spinning again, repeat......
While often frustrating to anyone waiting for cycle to finish, there is a method to madness. Those short pauses with fluffing between spinning redistributes loads for better and even extraction, and helps prevent deep creasing.
Back in days when there were only separate washers and extractors you'd have workers who felt if some spinning was good, more time is better. They would leave things in extractor so long what emerged was a solid mass of laundry heavily creased. Once other workers go through "shaking out" wash, and or it was put into a tumbler to break things up and fluff, things were evaluated before reaching or at finishing area. Ir the hand ironers or those doing things by machine said it was hopeless (as in they wouldn't be able to remove creases by ironing), everything had to go back to washing machines for several rinses to re-hydrate. This hopefully relaxed fabric removing deep creases. Then whole extraction process had to be done again.
As for Bock extractors, always thought would be nice to find one. Then read specs; they don't hold any more than domestic spin dryers (10 pounds). But you do get a larger basket so doing big items like blankets or even quilts isn't an issue. Also the larger tub means less creasing as opposed to domestic units.
One thing H-axis washing machines have over spin dryers is use of short periods of spinning, stopping, fluff wash, start spinning again, repeat......
While often frustrating to anyone waiting for cycle to finish, there is a method to madness. Those short pauses with fluffing between spinning redistributes loads for better and even extraction, and helps prevent deep creasing.
Back in days when there were only separate washers and extractors you'd have workers who felt if some spinning was good, more time is better. They would leave things in extractor so long what emerged was a solid mass of laundry heavily creased. Once other workers go through "shaking out" wash, and or it was put into a tumbler to break things up and fluff, things were evaluated before reaching or at finishing area. Ir the hand ironers or those doing things by machine said it was hopeless (as in they wouldn't be able to remove creases by ironing), everything had to go back to washing machines for several rinses to re-hydrate. This hopefully relaxed fabric removing deep creases. Then whole extraction process had to be done again.
As for Bock extractors, always thought would be nice to find one. Then read specs; they don't hold any more than domestic spin dryers (10 pounds). But you do get a larger basket so doing big items like blankets or even quilts isn't an issue. Also the larger tub means less creasing as opposed to domestic units.
IIRC the AEG Turnamat's spinner would spin for three minutes. Some separate spin dryers also advised a 3 minute spin. That time is long enough to get most of the water out, longer is not going to get more water out. And 3 minutes don't cause the worst creases like when the laundry is spun longer.
I found a bock extractor
I just hope the borders don’t close so I can get it [this post was last edited: 8/2/2020-03:14]
I just hope the borders don’t close so I can get it [this post was last edited: 8/2/2020-03:14]
Ozzie
I think so, I honestly don’t know as I didn’t ask
I think so, I honestly don’t know as I didn’t ask
Our local laundromat had an extractor--I used it a couple years ago, actually...didn't realize they were so scarce. The laundromat had a suspicious fire about 18 months ago--they didn't touch the building for about a year (everyone's dry cleaning was hanging in that area---it was a smoky mess, of course). They've just now cleaned it out.
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