spine-less hate mail

[bundtboy]

Some of you guys may have noticed that I have strong opinions.

Do you notice that I always can be identified? This is Bob, and you can get my email easily by clicking on my user id.

Recently, I have been receiving hate mail which is not digitally signed, nor does the composer of the mail put his name on it.

I do not appreciate this, and rather than write the webmaster directly, I thought I'd put it right out there in the forum for discussion.

Not signing your email is nothing short of a terrorist act - you're a terrorist, whoever you are, and I WILL NOT tolerate this.

DO NOT write me personally if you don't even have the balls to sign it.

Thanks a million & Happy Holidays from Hollywood.

Bob

 

[~sudsshane]

Nice, real nice Bob....tell me..did you think of Robert when you posted this thread? So, is this your way of thanking him for his hard work by using his site to attack others? You should have responded to posters directly through email- not aired your dirty laundry/problems here.

This thread should be deleted.

 

[bundtboy]

think of robert

Shane - Yes I did.

I did NOT WRITE robert directly and trouble him, which he has asked us not to do.

I put it right out here for all of you bullies to think about.

Shane - you're another perfect example.

You've made yourself out to be liar and a hateful person recently, so THANK YOU for ringing in and getting this post off to a perfect start.

Next?

 

[~sudsshane]

liar? hateful Person?

lol!

 

[tomturbomatic]

I have received a wild, vituperative email to which I could not respond so I know what Bob is talking about. Only later and indirectly did I find out that it was the product of a well-known sociopath. I do not think that it is an attack on Robert to let others know that there are persons who do this. If you look at more than a few of the profiles, you will see many with no first or last name or information other than a screen name and often a bogus email address. These are the real gutless wonders. This should be a concern to anyone who worries about the integrity of the membership and what is damaging to the club. Finally, computer security specialists teach that emails from unknown sources should not be opened anyway.

 

[bundtboy]

fresh cake

Shane - Did you post this 2 days ago and claim it was fresh?

That's an outright lie.

Doesn't that make you a liar? And it was hateful of you to post it and claim that it was fresh after I had posted what obviously was a fresh cake.

LOL

Bob

 

[~sudsshane]

humor

have a sense of humor Bob. can't you read between the lines?

 

[~sudsshane]

"If you look at more than a few of the profiles, you will see many with no first or last name or information other than a screen name and often a bogus email address. These are the real gutless wonders".

You raise a good point Tom. Make sure you take a look at Bob's profile. I stand behind my belief that this thread was in poor taste. It is not Robert's responsibility to worry about derogatory e-mails a member may receive from another member. Once something is posted on AW, it is Robert's right to approve it, delete it, whatever. I just really feel it is a smack in the face to him when nonsense like this gets started.
I am done responding to this..

 

[bundtboy]

hatefulness

Shane - you've perfectly demonstrated your hatefulness in this thread and no further postings will be nescessary.

My point has been clearly made.

Thank you, Tom, for your support and understanding of this very serious matter.

Bob

 

[petek]

Yes you do have strong opinions Bob but you are seriously lacking in tact. You in the recent past were very very hurtful to at least one person on this website regardless whether you are right or wrong. You appear as not to have any regard for another persons feelings only that you are right. Do you not stop to think that everyone here might not be enjoying good health physically or mentally, may be in a precarious financial situation or simply not have the means or where with all to maintain something to your standard? It's nobodies business let alone yours to use criticism against someone or to embarass them because they don't live to or keep up with your standards. Be reminded that your day may come yet when you are no longer able to wipe your own bum or dust off your own record players let alone use a forum to try and embarass someone else into your line of thinking.

I can tell you one thing, nobody but nobody likes a know-it-all or ruthless perfectionist. I know because many years ago the partner of a friend of mine told me outright I was one. And you know,,he was right. I didn't believe it naturally because that's the way I was but I asked other people I knew outright, no holds barred, if they thought the same thing about me and they did. So I changed, not overnight, but I think now that I'm not the same know it all I used to be and if I am I know for pretty damned sure that the person/people I'm pontificating to are equally up to scratch mentally, physically, financially or a combo of all of them. Otherwise I'm just a jerk.

 

[bundtboy]

sympathy card

I've not been playing this, but if you MUST KNOW - here it is.

I'm a LONG TERM AIDS survivor with only about 50 t-cells left.

This makes me a cranky assed bitch at times, but I've apologized for that on several occassions and am not gonna do that any more.

Neither am I interested in winning any popularity contest.

Jesus, guys. Seriously.

Stop being so PC and just say what you mean. I don't expect everybody to love me, but I do expect to be true to myself.

To say that NOBODY likes me is pretty extreme, don't you think, PeteK, if not on the hateful side yourself? Huh?

Bob

 

[panthera]

Way over the top

Folks, please - let's not behave this way.
I, too, have been subject to some rather nasty, hateful emails in the past. They were written by someone/s who clearly knew our site and the originating IP was in the UK.
I told Robert about it and let it go.
I did not assume that any of the UK members were attacking me in that way.
Nor did I lash out at folks here whose opinions I do not share.
It is unfortunate that some people behave in this way, but, Bob, please, don't react this way. It doesn't help.
Your wide range of knowledge and helpful comments are always welcome reading to me; certainly tho - and I sure as hell include myself here - many of us are in life situations which aren't always so good.
It really hurts me to see you lashing out at Shane. No, I don't always see eye to eye with him. But he is just as valuable to me as are you and everyone else here.
Well, not Austin. Glad he and his racist sickness is gone.
Again, please, if they aren't adult enough to sign their names, ignore them.
Robert, I never pester you (unless I need help with a mathematical formula )) but please delete this thread before it does any more harm.

 

[nmaineman36]

Gawd what to say here without getting an f-bomb laden email. This thread should be killed ASAP. I agree with Shane and Pete. Thats all I am going to say.

 

[toggleswitch]

Bob:

I wish for you sustained health, peace, tranquility.

Just know this, the other side is said to be exactly what you expect it to be. The reality there is molded by one's thoughts, but even more quickly and direclty than it is here on this plane.

May all your days be wonderful and may you receive the mercy and forgiveness you (as we all) deserve.

Perhaps this is a good time to let go of smaller issues and see the big picture. This applies to all of us!

Peace be unto us all.

 

[rp2813]

I've received hate mail from an unknown source also. I did report it to Robert but there was no way to trace it. I found it to be coincidental with a comment I made to a homophobic post several months back, a post that was place here by someone whose AW handle I have never seen before or since.

I think if anyone here really wanted to send Bob a hate piece, they'd do it without hiding behind some other identity.

The good thing is, I never received anything else from this spineless attacker so Bob, you should just let it go. There's nothing you can do about it and probably no AW regular is responsible.

 

[petek]

Bob, nowhere in my post did I ever say that NOBODY likes you. I said nobody likes a know it all or a perfectionist and gave myself as a truthful example of being one myself and it is my perception that you are one as well.

I am not a hateful person but I hated how you berated someone else as previously mentioned above. 50 T cells or 40 million dollars in the bank isn't a get out of jail free card to run someone elses stuff down and hurt their feelings unapologetically just because you've let everyone know you can be a cranky assed bitch at times because of it and you have decided you are not going to apologize for it anymore. That is all fine and dandy for you is all I'm saying, but did you ever give an ounce of thought to the other persons feelings, the other persons health or financial considerations before you did it? I don't think you did and from what I just read I don't think you honestly give a hoot anymore.

 

[petek]

Anyways,, this is going way too far for here Bob and the liklihood for misinterpretations in style and grammar doesn't behoove it. You are welcome to email me privately or phone me, or I can phone you if that works.

 

[maggie~hamilton]

Bob, I find it hard to imagine that anyone would want to send you hate mail, since you are always so sweet and cordial to everyone else here! (Coming from one who has been the recipient of your "tell it like it is" brutal frankness more than once.)

I think there are two salient points here:

1. Anonymous hate-mail is to be disregarded and ignored. END OF STORY. There is absolutely no point in wasting even a second of your time over it.

2. When you want to make a point that may not be "popular," perhaps you might try to be just the tiniest bit more diplomatic.

A recent case in point [one of several] was your disparaging remarks about the organ piece played by the young virtuoso Cameron Carpenter. You were not content to say you didn't care for it, you had to add ... "Hated it ~BOO~" ...

Was that necessary?

There are people who DO enjoy that type of organ music; if you do not, that's fine. But why the need to put other people's tastes down?

To say nothing of belittling and trivializing the efforts of such a brilliant musician.

You have my greatest, deepest, most loving, concerned, sincere support for your current health situation. All of us in the gay community have been down this road with friends and loved-ones.

I will soon lose (yet another) very dear friend to this plague; and, yes, sometimes in his dementia he can be searingly cruel. But that's different than your using your state of mind and being as license to say what you wish, how you wish, to others. Even people who are ill and not feeling comfortable can be tactful when they have an opinion to express in a written forum. You CAN express yourself without ugliness and meanspiritedness.

Please think before you reply to this.

You can either tell me to stick my disgusting pumpkin pie up my fat ugly ass [your usual course], or you can contemplate what I have said with open-mindedness and receptiveness and hopefully take these words to heart.

Certainly my comments are not offered in unkindness or anger but in gentleness and a spirit of reconciliation. I am simply holding up a mirror for you look into.

How you respond will reveal much about your sincerity in engaging in DISCOURSE here, as opposed to just saying what you want to others but not allowing others to reciprocate in kind. Even when they do so with gentle tactfulness.

Just my 137¢ worth.

 

[lightedcontrols]

Now that you guys bring it up...

I would like to make a suggestion to Robert. Why not charge at least a $5 membership fee. That way a real member could be authenticated on the site. The cash to Robert, I'm sure wouldn't hurt, and would help with expenses. And, as always, NEVER open an email that you don't recognize the sender's address!
Bob, I've known you for a years now and wouldn't want you to change a thing. Love you just as you are. And while I'm on the subject....I have been known to argue with other members, but that doesn't mean that I think less of any of them, just that we disagree at the moment. Now let's let this go. Tomorrow IS another day, but for today, let's LIVE IT!!! Hugs to all, Mark Lightedcontrols