Stain Removal Detergent Test Results

[launderess]

"Bleach Alternative"

Is a fancy way of saying the detergent contains lots of obas, but no type of bleach, oxygen or chlorine. With this in mind one can use all the LCB one wishes with TwBA.

 

[sudsdudeshane]

SA8 Bioquest

Very impressive results! Where can I purchase this product? Is this an American brand?

 

[launderess]

SA8 MSDS

In case anyone interested:

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www.quixtar.com

 

[exploder321]

Ahh..I would use the front load more as well...Shame you can't add another plug, although it may not match your control panels...

That floor is painted????? They did a dam good job! The concreate floor i painted sucked in all the paint and it peeled with in a week..Wound up hireing in a pro and it cost me $3000 and never was as nice looking as that.. I only see one little scratch and really thought it was tile.. It was like my house that was ruined in the 2004 flood..The lady before me Wall paperd the entire house (every room, including the celeings in several rooms)and that was awful..It was blue striped wall paper every place... I spent over a month removing it... Never again.

The mexican detergents are popular here... Do they work better??

Again thanks!

 

[oxydolfan1]

Wow, very thorough.

I'd have a couple of possible requests, if it is easily done...

All inspired by the recent CU test results...

Allegedly, now the Tide with Bleach Alternative liquid rates toppermost....I'd be curious to see how it performs against plain Tide liquid, which I'd imagine would be comparable to Tide HE in an FL...

I am intrigued by this Great Value (Wal-Mart) detergent's high showing, and am curious if it would truly work acceptably on your formidable test swatches....and I understand it is inexpensive (although, of course, you may not have a WalMart nearby, or may choose not to patronize them)....

Lastly....the CU tests allege virtual equivalent performance of the Arm and Hammer powder with bleach, and Tide with Bleach traditional powder. This fascinates me, because the Arm and Hammer with Bleach product sudses up much less than Tide with Bleach in my soft water and rinses cleaner, and is substantially less expensive. I have similar laundry challenges as you do with whites as I have by necessity have had to get used to cooking again (GRRRR!!!) and am generating a lot more deeply stained counter cloths, bar towels, etc. To top it all off, I've been directed to use only pure white washcloths in the shower.

I've sort of come to a compromise regarding what seem to be wise admonitions not to mix chlorine bleach with detergents containing oxygen bleach, by letting the wash run until about four or so minutes before initial extract and subsequent rinse, and THEN adding the chlorine bleach.

I've accepted my addiction and co-dependence upon chlorine bleach and hot water in the washer, and fully acknowledge that I have a disinfection phobia that is rooted in some deep-seated neurosis....but, to me, the whites just aren't clean as can be , unless I smell chlorine bleach during the wash. I've tested and retested with virtually every detergent and temperature combination imaginable, in my TL and the ex's new fancy-schmantzy front-loader, and I DO see a difference, especially on white socks and the aforementioned kitchen towels (Szechuan brown sauce is a bi*ch from hell).....

So I have to work around my own individualized needs.

Sorry for the long spiel....thanks again for all this concise, easy-to-understand testing, methodology, and results!

 

[oxydolfan1]

Exploder, the Viva detergent is a Mexican brand which is made by one of our big detergent conglomerates (my apologies, I cannot remember which!)

There's no relationship to our Viva paper towel brand...

Might I suggest a "Brawny" detergent brand, with the new ethnically correct logger stud on the front of the box?

lol

 

[oxydolfan1]

It looks like there's a box of SA8 in my future....

 

[zipdang]

Bravo Eugene! What a terrific experiment. Not to be a copycat, but I'm inspired to run a similar test using some of the detergents I've got on hand at the moment, pitting conventional against ecological: Fresh Start, Cheer HE liquid, Ecover powder, Whole Foods 365 Laundry Powder, and Bi-O-Kleen liquid. The conventional products will almost certainly outperform the ecological ones, but I'm curious how wide the gap will be. Now I just need to find the time to run the test!

Thank you for sharing your findings and for the inspiration!

 

[whirlcool]

Also, please consider testing with Arm & Hammer Clean Burst Liquid and Persil Non-Bio powder. If you don't have either of these on hand, I'll send you some!

 

[nmaineman36]

I am very tempted now to buy a box of the SA8. That stuff seems to work well from what it looks like here. On the Persil..I use it and dont use Chlorine bleach with...dont need to since it already has an oxygen bleach. If you do another test with the Persil try to use it by itself and in hot water. Thats what I do and the results are outstanding. Persil Color does a great job as well and has the pretty pink megapearls. Locks the color in and in my opinion keeps black clothes black.
My 2 cents.

 

[exploder321]

No i was thinking of the below item...I get this and Viva confused alot..

I want some persil, but am a tad poor at the moment...

May also break down and buy some Sa8, but have to get over amway

 

[exploder321]

I use this alot with my laundry..I love the smell... Is it safe to use every wash load

 

[frigilux]

Thanks for the comments, everyone! I'm writing down your detergent requests for future rounds of tests.

zipdang-- Go for it! Sounds like you have quite an arsenal of detergents to use for cleaning tests.

Mike-- I didn't use bleach with the Persil for the stain removal test. I'd used bleach with it on my 'real' laundry in the past.

Shane-- Go to quixtar.com if you want to purchase SA8. However, the company has some political/ethical ideas you probably disagree with. But DAMN, they make a good detergent. I'm only going to use the SA8 on my white loads, and I bought a 150-load box, so it should last quite awhile. I don't plan to purchase any of their other products.

whirlcool-- I'm also interested in Arm & Hammer. I used the powdered version when I was just out of college and remembered liking it. Haven't used it in years, though. I'm especially interested if it's low-sudsing.

Chad-- Definitely save up for some Persil. It smells like no other detergent--very herbal (rosemary, specifically) rather than flowery/sweet as most detergents are. With shipping, my large box cost me about $67. The SA8 (with shipping) came to about $43.

Launderess-- Thanks for the word on Tide with Bleach Alternative. As always, your knowledge and Anglocentric vocab are always appreciated.

Scott-- I'm also interested to see how Tide w/ Bleach Alternative stacks up against the other 3 Tide products I tested.

I want to test the Sam's Club Generic faux-Industrial stuff, too. It seems to do a pretty good job. And it's dirt cheap.

 

[exploder321]

I def. will save up for some..May go hunt for a smaller box to try first

 

[oxydolfan1]

If I didn't buy from anyone that I had political or ethical problems with, I'd be hungry, filthy, and naked as a PETA protester....

 

[exploder321]

You mean a BUM under a bench on the subway grate, with cloths given to you by the salvation army'(that you'd probably never wear, and just be arrested for indecent exposure as that nasty filthy creepy looking person who might molest little kiddes)????? OY!

I have other reasons against Amway...They wouldn't let my good friend sell it because shes a KNOWN lesbian and god forbid a lesbian wants to sell Amway, esp. when there are only two other people here in the area that do... Plus I think Dick Devoss is an asshtick...

 

[washdayguy]

Love the laundry room! And thanks for the info!

 

[oxydolfan1]

Wow, there's a subway in Montreat, North Carolina?

The whole cultic/homo-hating/DeVos thing is what I'm guessing would rub most folks wrong here....

I have another issue with them as well. The vast majority of their products simply aren't good enough to justify the prices paid for them. This is not unique to Quixtar...I like ONE product from Shaklee (the paste cleanser), but it's not worth it for me to order that one product and get the whole spiel...

Gevalia has wonderful coffee, but they do not represent good value.

On the other hand, Yves Rocher's prices make their fairly decent products an excellent value.

Could the internet have killed the multilevel marketing star?

 

[oxydolfan1]

Frigilux, I like how you have your machines lined up, like orderly soldiers, in a row!

 

[exploder321]

No Subway Here

But i recall this scene from Washington DC from the severl times i have been there...

Also saw this in Atlanta.. No we just have the people that protest naked for one reason or another (the protest against Victorias Secret last year because they use non recylced paper it was it was over)they where filty looking people who where butt a** naked...

The amway tile cleaner works well and ahs lasted over 15 years (or at least the bottle i found under the sink in my condo when i moved back here in 04)