whirlaway
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I went to see Star Trek yesterday,it was actually pretty good.The young guys really look like the originals.Anyone else been?
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whirlcool
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I haven't seen it yet, but we plan to on Monday (avoid the crowds)I am looking very much forward to it.
From what I heard to enjoy this movie you need not have seen any other Trek movie of TV show and still enjoy it. That'll bring more people into the Trek universe.
Last night on TV I saw that both Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy were on a chat show together. Leonard said that he thought the new Mr.Spock was dead on his approach to the character. So that's kind of a "blessing".
Leonard also said that everyone was glad that Chris Pine who plays Capt. Kirk did not follow William Shatners method of acting and took a new approach to the character. However the guy who played Dr. McCoy did his character exactly the way DeForest Kelley did it, and in the movie both characters were perfect!
We have a new IMAX theater near us so we'll see it in that format. We hope we are blown away by it!
From what I heard to enjoy this movie you need not have seen any other Trek movie of TV show and still enjoy it. That'll bring more people into the Trek universe.
Last night on TV I saw that both Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy were on a chat show together. Leonard said that he thought the new Mr.Spock was dead on his approach to the character. So that's kind of a "blessing".
Leonard also said that everyone was glad that Chris Pine who plays Capt. Kirk did not follow William Shatners method of acting and took a new approach to the character. However the guy who played Dr. McCoy did his character exactly the way DeForest Kelley did it, and in the movie both characters were perfect!
We have a new IMAX theater near us so we'll see it in that format. We hope we are blown away by it!
panthera
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We're going next week
I have a group of friends here who are seriously into Star Trek.
Every review I've read so far here in Europe has said its very well done and Chris Pine has managed to do Kirk without doing William Shatner.
Double entendres implied.
Just, I wish Shatner hadn't been so nasty to Merritt Butrick who was dying of Aids. That really soured me on him.
He has us to thank for his career, the least he could have done was to be gracious.
I have a group of friends here who are seriously into Star Trek.
Every review I've read so far here in Europe has said its very well done and Chris Pine has managed to do Kirk without doing William Shatner.
Double entendres implied.
Just, I wish Shatner hadn't been so nasty to Merritt Butrick who was dying of Aids. That really soured me on him.
He has us to thank for his career, the least he could have done was to be gracious.
whirlcool
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What did Mr. Shatner do/say to him that was so awful? At times I find William Shatner annoying.....
panthera
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Awful,
Allen, at a time when everyone knew that you couldn't catch Aids without blood/semen transfer, he made an enormous seen about having to touch and hold the guy.
Then he did this whole touching tribute to him thing-y when he died shortly later.
Disgusting and, to be fair, Shatner has since apologized - something he's not good at and publicly admitted to having behaved poorly.
Still, it bothered me because it happened at a time when I was translating a film with lip-syncing (horrid, simply horrid) and nearly everyone I worked with was either coping with being positive or had a lover who was or was dying of the disease.
Gosh. There but for the grace of God...
Allen, at a time when everyone knew that you couldn't catch Aids without blood/semen transfer, he made an enormous seen about having to touch and hold the guy.
Then he did this whole touching tribute to him thing-y when he died shortly later.
Disgusting and, to be fair, Shatner has since apologized - something he's not good at and publicly admitted to having behaved poorly.
Still, it bothered me because it happened at a time when I was translating a film with lip-syncing (horrid, simply horrid) and nearly everyone I worked with was either coping with being positive or had a lover who was or was dying of the disease.
Gosh. There but for the grace of God...
yogitunes
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BIG TREKKIE HERE...places around me so jammed packed...all dreesed in "STARFLEET" gear...it's a sight to see...but I love it....even the security guards were dressed as Klingons...great for effect....they should do this for many other films...kinda sets the scene for you...but I'm gonna make it there soon...
58limited
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I can't wait to see the movie. I'm a big Star Trek fan, more TNG than original but like both, and I especially like all of the movies. I was really disappointed when the Star Trek experience closed in Las Vegas - I really wanted to go someday.
> at a time when everyone knew that you couldn't catch Aids without blood/semen transfer <
What time would that have been? Lots of people (probably millions) *still* think HIV can be transmitted without blood/semen transfer.
I'm not defending Shatner, I'm only saying AIDS caused a huge amount of fear, and in 1989 lots of people were still very afraid of it. Just a few years earlier, Doris Day was hailed as some kind of brave champion simply for holding Rock Hudson before he passed away.
What time would that have been? Lots of people (probably millions) *still* think HIV can be transmitted without blood/semen transfer.
I'm not defending Shatner, I'm only saying AIDS caused a huge amount of fear, and in 1989 lots of people were still very afraid of it. Just a few years earlier, Doris Day was hailed as some kind of brave champion simply for holding Rock Hudson before he passed away.
twinniefan
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Saw it yesterday
I went and saw it yesterday,and found it was pretty good all round may even go and see it again, I agree with posters about Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine playing their roles really well,although I am not really a "Trekkie" as such, I did enjoy the film and liked the original series, I remember the old Sunday nights well, first Mum and Dad would watch the 6pm news,then it was the Wonderful World of Disney from, 6.30pm to 7.30pm and then Star Trek until 8.30 pm then the sunday night movie.
You know there are times when I yearn for the old days to come back.
I went and saw it yesterday,and found it was pretty good all round may even go and see it again, I agree with posters about Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine playing their roles really well,although I am not really a "Trekkie" as such, I did enjoy the film and liked the original series, I remember the old Sunday nights well, first Mum and Dad would watch the 6pm news,then it was the Wonderful World of Disney from, 6.30pm to 7.30pm and then Star Trek until 8.30 pm then the sunday night movie.
You know there are times when I yearn for the old days to come back.
whirlcool
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When did they close down the Star Trek Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton? I went through it a few times and really enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun but the waiting times to enter were always long because of the amount of people waiting to view it.
The first time I saw it was on the second day of operation.
The first time I saw it was on the second day of operation.
58limited
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The Star Trek Experience closed Sept. 1, 2008. I just checked Wikipedia and it is going to reopen at another location, the Neonopolis Mall, in 2010, more emphasis on original Star Trek over TNG.
whirlcool
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Well, I hope they have better luck at Neonopolis than other businesses who have tried there. That place is a ghost town. They recently renamed it Fremont Square.
When you walk through the place you keep thinking "How long have I got before this thing is closed and demolished for a new hotel?"
When you walk through the place you keep thinking "How long have I got before this thing is closed and demolished for a new hotel?"
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Star Trek Phase II
I haven't been to the new movie, yet but I do want to see it. A friend of mine found this on youtube last night it's different. The Fire and Ice episode is really interesting with a Kirk's nephew and gay marriage.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bqk321
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/
I haven't been to the new movie, yet but I do want to see it. A friend of mine found this on youtube last night it's different. The Fire and Ice episode is really interesting with a Kirk's nephew and gay marriage.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bqk321
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/
Saw it last night, only because a friend here had a group rate and invited us. Neither my partner or I are fans, but this ST movie sounded a little different. It was OK, but I'm just not into the whole blowing up things and peppered whooshing noises type of film. I found the characters likable and well done and enjoyed the more light-hearted dialogue here and there, and thought Chris Pine did a great job. Not bad to look at for a youngster either.
What annoyed me most about the experience was the trailer assault before the feature even started. The show time was 7:40. We got in there around 7:25 and the trailers were already going. Some sort of AMC Theaters compilation. Then as 7:40 came and went, more trailers from the studios themselves, a few of them repeats of the same stuff on the AMC version. And every last one of them was aliens attacking Earth, the giant metal kind, and a bunch of stuff blowing up. To me they all looked like trailers for the same damned movie. It's no wonder I have no respect for Hollywood and what they turn out anymore. Meanwhile, it was 7:55 when ST actually started. I was beyond annoyed by that time. What gives with this BS? I guess it's obvious that my partner and I don't go to the mainstream movies very much.
I'm an indie film guy through and through, that's for sure.
What annoyed me most about the experience was the trailer assault before the feature even started. The show time was 7:40. We got in there around 7:25 and the trailers were already going. Some sort of AMC Theaters compilation. Then as 7:40 came and went, more trailers from the studios themselves, a few of them repeats of the same stuff on the AMC version. And every last one of them was aliens attacking Earth, the giant metal kind, and a bunch of stuff blowing up. To me they all looked like trailers for the same damned movie. It's no wonder I have no respect for Hollywood and what they turn out anymore. Meanwhile, it was 7:55 when ST actually started. I was beyond annoyed by that time. What gives with this BS? I guess it's obvious that my partner and I don't go to the mainstream movies very much.
I'm an indie film guy through and through, that's for sure.
Merritt Butrick
Interesting information I never knew what happened to him. Was he gay? I remember noticing him first on "Square Pegs" along with Sarah jessica, and thought he was adorable(and a perfect choice for JT Kirk's son) in Star Drek II(haven't seen the new one yet; II so far was the best of all of them). One more name to Google.
Interesting information I never knew what happened to him. Was he gay? I remember noticing him first on "Square Pegs" along with Sarah jessica, and thought he was adorable(and a perfect choice for JT Kirk's son) in Star Drek II(haven't seen the new one yet; II so far was the best of all of them). One more name to Google.
whirlaway
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I am truly an Indy guy also ,have been since the very first one.You are right about the trailers,what I do i go in 10min after their starting time usually hit the beginning right in the nose.You do lose your anticipation with those numbing previews.Bobby
I am truly an Indy guy also ,have been since the very first one.You are right about the trailers,what I do i go in 10min after their starting time usually hit the beginning right in the nose.You do lose your anticipation with those numbing previews.Bobby
whirlcool
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I must admit that when I first saw Kirk's son come on the bridge with his sweater tied around his neck by the arms, my gaydar did go off!
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We just saw Star Trek today at the Jordans IMAX in Reading Mass...I like the movie but the thing with Spock and Uhura wasnt something I was expecting. That was a curveball. But overall a good movie...one that I will be getting when it comes out on DVD.
Oh yeah, that Uhura thing. With Kirk being played the way he was by Pine, you can't tell me that it would be out of character for Pine's Kirk to ask old man Spock when he encountered him just what was up between him and Uhura, but he didn't. A glaring omission if you ask me, but a serious can of worms that Hollywood's lame writers couldn't deal with opening.
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Saw it last night...fantastic...
whirlcool
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We went to see the Star Trek Movie last night at the local IMAX. We went tot he 10:20p showing. Even that late on a weeknight the theater was about 1/2 full.
The Star Trek Movie didn't actually begin until 30 minutes past its start time due to adverts, trailers upon trailers. In fact when the movie actually began, I thought it was another trailer playing!
Things I didn't like:
I thought the transporter effect was like something out of a Saturday morning kids show. Even the TOS transporter effect would have been better.
The Romulan ship looked like a "space cockroach". In general, I thought the ships could have been more impressive. They would have looked better as real models rather than CGI.
Another strange thing, Chris Pine really has a bad complextion. Most movie stars have nice smooth skin. He obviously does not. Maybe it's because I saw it in IMAX?
It's easy to see that they saved money on the sets by filming in actual real locations.
The engineering section looks like it was filmed in a water treatment facility as Toggles said.
I thought the photography was shot too close up. Some of the fight scenes were reduced to just blurs of the characters on the screen. If they had pulled the camera back a few feet these scenes would have been clearer. Once again, it could be because the IMAX screen is so huge you get this effect.
Things I liked:
I thought the casting was done very well. The Spock character was perfect (for the most part) and even old "bones" did a remarkable job recreating DeForest Kelley's take on the character. It was as good as having Deforest there himself. In general I thought the acting was very good to excellent for such young actors.
This movie was very fast moving. I thought I had been there about 30 minutes when the movie ended. I was very surprised that 2 hours had actually passed by!
The makeup department did an excellent job in creating the alien life forms for the move.
After you think about it awhile the storyline wasn't too bad. I hope they do better with the next Star Trek movie, which I understand is now in development.
So all in all, I'd probably go see it again, this time on a smaller screen.
The Star Trek Movie didn't actually begin until 30 minutes past its start time due to adverts, trailers upon trailers. In fact when the movie actually began, I thought it was another trailer playing!
Things I didn't like:
I thought the transporter effect was like something out of a Saturday morning kids show. Even the TOS transporter effect would have been better.
The Romulan ship looked like a "space cockroach". In general, I thought the ships could have been more impressive. They would have looked better as real models rather than CGI.
Another strange thing, Chris Pine really has a bad complextion. Most movie stars have nice smooth skin. He obviously does not. Maybe it's because I saw it in IMAX?
It's easy to see that they saved money on the sets by filming in actual real locations.
The engineering section looks like it was filmed in a water treatment facility as Toggles said.
I thought the photography was shot too close up. Some of the fight scenes were reduced to just blurs of the characters on the screen. If they had pulled the camera back a few feet these scenes would have been clearer. Once again, it could be because the IMAX screen is so huge you get this effect.
Things I liked:
I thought the casting was done very well. The Spock character was perfect (for the most part) and even old "bones" did a remarkable job recreating DeForest Kelley's take on the character. It was as good as having Deforest there himself. In general I thought the acting was very good to excellent for such young actors.
This movie was very fast moving. I thought I had been there about 30 minutes when the movie ended. I was very surprised that 2 hours had actually passed by!
The makeup department did an excellent job in creating the alien life forms for the move.
After you think about it awhile the storyline wasn't too bad. I hope they do better with the next Star Trek movie, which I understand is now in development.
So all in all, I'd probably go see it again, this time on a smaller screen.
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~The engineering section looks like it was filmed in a water treatment facility as Toggles said.
I did?
Hmmm. Interesting, I wasn't planning on seeing this flick, but now I want to!
I wonder if today's kids get how fascinating the "communcator" was as science-fiction before mobile/cell phones existed.
Sorry I'm being dense(or missed a few sentences) but what is TOS and CGI?
I did?
Hmmm. Interesting, I wasn't planning on seeing this flick, but now I want to!
I wonder if today's kids get how fascinating the "communcator" was as science-fiction before mobile/cell phones existed.
Sorry I'm being dense(or missed a few sentences) but what is TOS and CGI?
panthera
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Toggles,
You, dense?
Hah.
Me, now, I tell, 'ya...those echoes in my head get louder every year.
OK, here goes.
TOS: The Original Star Trek.
This is what slash/fic writers call "canon", that is, those first three seasons and the authorized books. Everything else is seen as either conforming to them or arising from them.
Example: It would be ok with TOS for the hunky, hung, gorgeous security guard to have one or two touching moments with another crew member or even attract Captain Kirk's notice...as long as he dies before the end of the episode/film. Preferably painfully, or at least mysteriously. If he lives, goes on to marry and have kids, that is not TOS, that is DS-9, the worst breecher of canon in all the Trekverse.
CGI: Computer Generated Image(-ry).
Industrial Light and Magic does it best. Sony (think of Spiderman III, ugh) does it not as well.
Green screens and CGI have made it possible for even BBC productions to do rather good HD TV.(think Torchwood, and who wouldn't with Jack Barrowman's acres of chest and Garreth David-Lloyd's eye-liner, oops, one-liners).
CGI is pretty free-flowing, I am quite sure you'd find someone here who'd define it more rigidly or far differently. Main thing is, enhancing what's there with something that's virtual to make fool the eye.
Tell me you know Torchwood. Please. It's just up your alley.
You, dense?
Hah.
Me, now, I tell, 'ya...those echoes in my head get louder every year.
OK, here goes.
TOS: The Original Star Trek.
This is what slash/fic writers call "canon", that is, those first three seasons and the authorized books. Everything else is seen as either conforming to them or arising from them.
Example: It would be ok with TOS for the hunky, hung, gorgeous security guard to have one or two touching moments with another crew member or even attract Captain Kirk's notice...as long as he dies before the end of the episode/film. Preferably painfully, or at least mysteriously. If he lives, goes on to marry and have kids, that is not TOS, that is DS-9, the worst breecher of canon in all the Trekverse.
CGI: Computer Generated Image(-ry).
Industrial Light and Magic does it best. Sony (think of Spiderman III, ugh) does it not as well.
Green screens and CGI have made it possible for even BBC productions to do rather good HD TV.(think Torchwood, and who wouldn't with Jack Barrowman's acres of chest and Garreth David-Lloyd's eye-liner, oops, one-liners).
CGI is pretty free-flowing, I am quite sure you'd find someone here who'd define it more rigidly or far differently. Main thing is, enhancing what's there with something that's virtual to make fool the eye.
Tell me you know Torchwood. Please. It's just up your alley.
whirlcool
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Hmmm, I thought it was you Toggles that said that, I must have read that somewhere or heard it somewhere, sorry for the mistake.
As I said, even with the things I didn't like the movie was still very entertaining.
As I said, even with the things I didn't like the movie was still very entertaining.
58limited
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I should have posted this link before. These guys make hilarious short (1 to 3 minute) movies from the ST:TNG DVDs. They use several episodes in each edit and some are just about the funniest things I've ever seen on youtube. There are 24 so far:
http://www.youtube.com/user/gazorra
http://www.youtube.com/user/gazorra
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