TEST: Another Detergent Challenge

[nrones]

chestermikeuk,
Hello, before testing I thought results would be equal, or with extremely small difference, but after test, I was happy that I was able to judge clearly, with no problems or confussions

mrx,
It's exactly what I thought. Since Henkel Persil sold in Serbia (Made in Serbia in Henkel factory as well) is different than Henkel Persil sold in Germany/Austria, and as I have both I will test Persil VS Persil, so it might be interesting.
Same goes for Ariel. Ariel is P&G but prouced in Romania, or Chezc Republic (depending on stock), and it's different compared to one sold in Germany, UK, Netherlands etc, so I will doo Ariel VS Ariel as well...but it all needs time, so I will doo it some time

chris,
Thanks for the link! It's awesome!

Dex

 

[stan]

Dejan

Was the wine stain red, or white ?

 

[nrones]

@stan

red wine

 

[stan]

Red Wine

It is!

I'll try to find a white cotton shirt, and see if I can duplicate the test.

Since I'd only be testing with old fashion Lye Soap, Borax, and using a old Maytag Wringer, won't need to cut up the shirt.

Should be interesting to test my old, (out dated products, and equipment ) vs your new, with the same stains, and same fabric?
I'm kind of curious now!

 

[electron1100]

Tests

This is a great thread that I have enjoyed and am looking forward to seeing Stans results, so maybe members with twin tubs could have a go (Jondeeprinser) is one that springs to mind.........he is good with a twin tub and tongs

 

[aquacycle]

how come 2 premium competitors having rights for production

Hi Dejan,

I've been wondering the same thing for a long while. I'm not sure about all the ins and outs of it. All I know is that Lever Bros. (now unilever) acquired the rights to the Persil name in the UK, Ireland and France in 1931. Since then, the 2 formulas have been different.

In other countries, Unilever use the UK Persil Formula for Omo.

Funilly enough, Persil was never Lever's best selling brand until more recently, despite being "the original" brand of detergent. Rinso was their best seller and after it was discontinued for declining sales, Surf was launched and also became a best seller, until Persil took over (presumably between the 50's and 60's as twin tubs were becoming increasingly popular).

The brand "Persil" has always been associated as a top product, regardless of the formula. I think the rights to the name may have something to do with the association and reputation of the brand rather than the actual stuff in the box. Not that Persil isn't good by any means, but I think a lot of people buy it purely on it's reputation. If Omo was sold in the UK again, despite being the same formula, I don't think it would sell as well as Persil.

Hope this helps. Maybe someone else will be able to shed some more light on the situation.

Chris

 

[chestermikeuk]

"Persil was never Lever's best selling brand until m

Am assuming Chris you mean the USA by that statement? have never known or heard Rinso being more popular than Persil in the UK....

The twintub would be another good test but also a "12hr soak", all test samples placed in cold water with a set amount of washing powder and see what happens!!

Any other test ideas?

 

[aquacycle]

Indeed, Mike, sorry I should've specified that. In the UK, Persil has always been a market leader as far as I'm aware, despite strong competition from P&G.

 

[electron1100]

Ariel 3D pods overnight soak

Funny mike I just bought some Ariel 3D pods to try out on a soak for Bolognese sauce plus a few other stains on T-Towels.

I put the machine on a pre-wash (40o) then turned it off when it had reached temperature and left them overnight and yes the pods worked well no stains at all, I then washed everything else (whites) at 60o with Tesco Bio powder so no problems with the Ariel other than a strong sweet sickly smell from it but that went once I had washed everything in Tescos Bio powder.

But I have to say that either boil washing the whites with Tescos Bio or overnight soaking the T-towels with Tescos Bio works aswell, so will I buy them again I doubt it I just fancied having a play as a lot of people rate Ariel and this thread is fascinating

 

[chris74]

I bought the Ariel 3D pouches in the Netherlands

But IIRC they're designed as a stain booster, not a fully working detergent like the Tide Pods or am I wrong?

 

[electron1100]

Stain booster

Hello chris

Yes that's what it says on the packet a stain booster for whites, but I do not use Ariel powder etc as it is too sudsy and I do not like the over strong scent, but looking at the ingredients it looked ideal for whites.

Gary

 

[stan]

Lye Soap with Borax Test

And using the Maytag Wringer

Step 1 measure 1/4 cup Borax

 

[stan]

The stains

Here. Pic of the shirt after 24 hours

On the right front panel from the top down is

The motor oil (used the dipstick from the car)
The Olive Oil
The mud
The red wine
The coffee
The coffee and red wine, kind of ran together

The left side, from the top down is

The Spaghetti sauce
The the lipstick on the pocket

 

[stan]

Another

Shot

 

[stan]

Measure my Lye Soap

Slightly more than a 1/4 cup

 

[stan]

Shirt going being pulled in

Last

 

[stan]

Agitation

I added the Borax first, agitated for a min or two, the added the Soap. It's typical for Lye soap to not make a lot of suds.

 

[stan]

Set timer for 10 min

Of agitation

 

[stan]

Shirt going through

Wringer!
I know, this is all high tech LOL

 

[stan]

Wash water dumping

Out.
As you can see there are suds, but are minimal.
You ca tell its soap because of the milky look to the water.