The Forbidden to see Hydro-Sweep EXPOSED!

[i70sn80sguy]

The fridigidaires

I think the best dishwashers, today, are Frigidaire mid and top of the line(domestic). I had a 2000, which they still make the same, SOO quiet and an excellent cleaning job. And the flexibility, you can do a half load with all the dishes on top or bottom, your choice, its so efficient.
On the flip side though, don't get the cheapest Frigidaires, the ones with the spindal in the middle of the lower rack, No.

Kitchenaids were the Best, what was whirlpool thinking in the late 90s? Now KA is nothing but a whirlpool with the KA name slapped on. I don't think they even divide the models the way they used to. The last time I looked they had 3 different functioning models and you could get each model in your choice of 3 different console types. 9 models total. Blah, Blah.
I like Roberts idea here, it's less messy than simply hot wiring the switch and leaving the door open. Something I tried as a young adolescent. But the machine was outside when I turned it on.

 

[coldspot66]

In defense of Kitchenaid, I own a Kenmore Elite (Kitchenaid clone) and can honestly say it is the BEST cleaning dishwasher I have EVER had! And as a repairman, I've tried them all. GE standard tub is too hard to load;always hated the bottom rack. Frigidaires have improved over the last few years, but I'm not crazy about plastic tubs anymore. I do think stainless steel makes a big difference in holding the heat better. I liked my Whirlpool with the silverware in the door. Out first d/w was a D&M Kenmore with roto-rack. Did a good job but was noisy and used a lot of water. Same for Kitchenaid, though the quality was better. Honestly, for as little water as it uses, most all my pots & pans and dishes come out gleaming and squeeky clean. I don't remember the last time I bought a box of Brillo soap pads! Enzyme detergent certainly helps with cleaning stubborn food soils.
And I never prerinse!!! Cycle times are long, and the shorter time saver cycles don't clean heavy soil well. That's my 2 cents!

 

[cleanteamofny]

My father had a Frigidaire dishwasher and I hated it from day one!!!
Very hard to load, never clean pots and pans well on the top rack!
Screws was coming loose off the door all the time and what broke the camels back was when the heating element burned a hole through the tub while it wash washing dishes!

Here's the proof.....
In my book, Figidaire will never get another dollar out of me unless they bring the 1-18 back!

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lr9711/detail?.dir=/b8b3&.dnm=4c10.jpg&.src=ph

 

[deeptub]

It's cool to have the actual dates for the various KA series. I only had the ads in National Geographic to go by for rough estimates. (When I was 14, I'm sure nobody believed that I was leafing through old National Geographics for the KitchenAid ads.) My parents got their 21-series in July 1988 (from Petropoulos Brothers in Waukegan IL if anyone remembers them) so they were made at least until then. Whirlpool had bought KA by then so its model number is KUDS21MS0. I believe it was the first WhisperQuiet model--fairly noisy by today's standards (noisy, but not loud, if that makes any sense). I remember seeing a 22-series at Petropoulos before they went out of business which was the summer of 1989, so the 21 series must have been made until somewhere in late 88-early 89. The 20 and 21 series were fairly efficient for the day (even compared to some of today's models). The Normal cycle on the 21 series is only 4 fills (prewash/rinse/wash/rinse) and I believe 8.5 gallons total.

T.

 

[kenmore1978]

plastic vs SS heat conductivity

I hate to say it, but plastic would obviously hold the heat better, plastic is a very poor heat conductor whereas SS would immediately conduct the heat to the outside of the DW. In reality, probably doesn't matter much today since virtually every decent DW is fiberglass insulated.

 

[appnut]

Robert, thank you for the video. I finally got to view it at work today. Steve-1-18, the revolution speed of the wash arm was about what I expected given I'd sit with my head against the front panel of a KA and listen to how often that one arm with the jets closest to the door would pass by. My parents were so embarassed when I'd sit in front of a running dishwasher.

 

[DADoES]

Bob, I used to do the same thing, but only at home with the KDI-17. I assume you mean that you did it friends/relatives/neighbors as well.

 

[jmirawm]

watching and wondering.....

I was watching the video again tonight. I was wondering, when they introduced the hydro-sweep wash arm, if they were able to shorten the cycle times. Since there was double the water spray and about the same rpm's ?

 

[tlee618]

Thanks Robert!!

Thanks so much Robert for taking the time to make the Kitchen Aid video. I have a new computer and dls server and it is such a pleasure to download things now. I have watched the video several times..what a pleasure to see what is going on inside. Love the light addition as well. I could almost sit down and cry when I think what Kitchen Aid has turned into today. Terry

 

[tolivac]

Very interesting film clip-I have installed my KDS-18-except for the water input.Need to find a connector that matches the one on the feedline.So far all of the ones in my small plumbers "feild bag" won't fit.I always thought spray arms spun faster than what I saw in the video.Now I know the story.The "new" WP KA machine-died at the appropriate time-the electronics timer or control board blew--Not a storm in sight-tried to run the machine-the only cycle it will do is "rinse"Its now sitting in the corner-will have to take the input connector from it and put it on the "real" KA washer.I"ll have to bring the parts into work where a vise can help out.